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***Ray Rice---The Whole Video*** [Update: Ravens release Rice]


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Video changes everything, and is true of all things.

Rice has now gone from scum bag to evil, brutish villain
 
It disgusts me that our players are told its better to beat on a woman or anyone over smoking some weed, disgusting BS this country falls for.

Only a matter of time before he pulls a Jared Remy, only he has more fame and money.
 
For those who think the prosecutor should have went forward with charges based on the video, you don't understand the law and how this really works.

Assuming that the prosecutor went forward, which they could.

Rice's wife would be advised by their (the Rice's) lawyer to take the 5th and float the notion of "mutual combatants" to the prosecutor which means that she's taking the 5th and that she's indicating she was throwing punches first (unlikely she was but this is how she would proceed to get him off the hook) and he was defending himself.

If she does this, the prosecutor can still proceed but a good lawyer would introduce enough doubt weaken the case enough to prevent any likely conviction difficult.

The prosecutor's only option is then grant his wife immunity from any crime related to this and force her to testify. Granting immunity takes away the 5th amendment since you can't incriminate yourself if you've got immunity. Granting immunity rarely happens though because the courts see this as a family matter and given his lawyer's ability to defend, delay, and weaken the case, it makes conviction unlikely so they tend to drop it. Rice's lawyer has also indicated by now that they plan on making this a "mutual combatant" case as well so the prosecutor knows even if she speaks, she's going to say she was throwing punches first.

I'm 100% sure that if she wanted to proceed with the case and were a cooperating witness, the prosecutor would go after him with a vengeance. The fact that she won't cooperate, makes the case unwinnable in the eyes of the prosecutor.

I know some are going to say "all you have to do is take a look at the video" but it isn't that easy in reality and prosecutors don't take cases to court that are difficult to win when the victim wants charges dropped as well. I've seen this happen a lot... it sucks but she has to be willing to cooperate

That folks is why domestic violence often ends up with someone severely injured or dead.
 
Video changes everything, and is true of all things.

Rice has now gone from scum bag to evil, brutish villain

Yep,

It went from "she was hitting me and i was defending myself" to she smacked my arm.. kinda sorta, so i spit in her face, pushed her against the wall of the elevator, and the as she came towards me punched her as HARD AS A ****ING COULD.

This wasn't any sort of defense by rice at all. The fact that he is still on an NFL roster speaks VOLUMES about the ravens, the ravens coach, and the ravens owner.

Kraft and BB would have kicked this ass hole to the curb as soon as details emerged. Seriously unspeakable that they never tried to actually see the incident.

"i liked ray rice before, I like ray rice a lot now" Class ****ing piece of work Harbaugh
 
I think that the Ravens will have no choice but to cut him or suspend him for the season. Their only hope is the league claims Rice lied to them and increases the suspension. This is too big and the evidence is too damning.
 
I understand why all of you are upset with the gangsta thug actions of that repugnant,revoltingly brutal moron, Rice...but why all the vitriol and anger for the greatest man in any sport's history...the man who singlehandedly destroyed the image of the evil Patriots empire, the man who, against all odds went after the Saints in federal court and got summarily dismissed and laughed at by the ignorant, unqualified federal judge? The man who showed compassion and restraint when the face of the New York Jets was caught in a revolting, disgusting display of open deviance displayed on the internet for ANY Person or child to access? The man who slapped the hands of the same face of the Jets when he was caught making obscene middle finger gestures toward people at a public event AND at NFL sanctioned regular season Games? the man who quietly defused the OPEN ORGANIZED TRIPPING DURING AN NFL GAME by agreeing that the only person responsible was a low level gofer, absolving this same FACE OF A FRANCHISE for any responsibility in the organized SIDELINE WALL OF JET PLAYERS deliberately interfering with a player on the opponent's team in the field of play?

why would you people ever think Goodell hasn't done everything in his power in re of this Rice incident. I think the owners should give him ANOTHER 50 million dollar raise. He's showing every person of influence in any field of endeavor how it's really done!!! Yes, this man from the humble roots of Silver Spoon St,forged and tested in that hard scrabble world of U.S. Senator's son battling extreme adversity, this man deserves nothing but our praise and our undying allegiance!

You people are the mob, you know nothing about true adversity, nothing about what kind of man it takes to tackle the really tough decisions affecting the lives of 32 billionaires. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for what you've said about Mr. Goodell this day.
 
FFS, that's ridiculous. When the two games was announced, I thought there must be some mitigating circumstances (she attacked him, he was trying to restrain her and they slipped... something like that) and I still thought it was too little.

But no, it looks like he just threw a haymaker at her and that was that. He could've easily killed her, with the force that he hit her, and her hitting the rail and the floor on the way down. Total scumbag, I have no idea how he isn't suspended indefinitely.
 
FFS, that's ridiculous. When the two games was announced, I thought there must be some mitigating circumstances (she attacked him, he was trying to restrain her and they slipped... something like that) and I still thought it was too little.

But no, it looks like he just threw a haymaker at her and that was that. He could've easily killed her, with the force that he hit her, and her hitting the rail and the floor on the way down. Total scumbag, I have no idea how he isn't suspended indefinitely.

after he spit on her and pushed her into the elevator wall.

He straight Ivan drago'd her.
 
I understand why all of you are upset with the gangsta thug actions of that repugnant,revoltingly brutal moron, Rice...but why all the vitriol and anger for the greatest man in any sport's history...the man who singlehandedly destroyed the image of the evil Patriots empire, the man who, against all odds went after the Saints in federal court and got summarily dismissed and laughed at by the ignorant, unqualified federal judge? The man who showed compassion and restraint when the face of the New York Jets was caught in a revolting, disgusting display of open deviance displayed on the internet for ANY Person or child to access? The man who slapped the hands of the same face of the Jets when he was caught making obscene middle finger gestures toward people at a public event AND at NFL sanctioned regular season Games? the man who quietly defused the OPEN ORGANIZED TRIPPING DURING AN NFL GAME by agreeing that the only person responsible was a low level gofer, absolving this same FACE OF A FRANCHISE for any responsibility in the organized SIDELINE WALL OF JET PLAYERS deliberately interfering with a player on the opponent's team in the field of play?

why would you people ever think Goodell hasn't done everything in his power in re of this Rice incident. I think the owners should give him ANOTHER 50 million dollar raise. He's showing every person of influence in any field of endeavor how it's really done!!! Yes, this man from the humble roots of Silver Spoon St,forged and tested in that hard scrabble world of U.S. Senator's son battling extreme adversity, this man deserves nothing but our praise and our undying allegiance!

You people are the mob, you know nothing about true adversity, nothing about what kind of man it takes to tackle the really tough decisions affecting the lives of 32 billionaires. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for what you've said about Mr. Goodell this day.

I don't know about you but I'm looking forward to the "town hall" with Ravens fans where they screen all of the questions before hand. I can't believe he managed to do a townhall in Foxboro with no spygate mentions
 
Can someone explain to me how Rice still has a job?
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

A video is a damning thing. I don't recall anywhere near this frenzy over Terrell Sugg's escapades.

According to the domestic complaint obtained Friday by The Baltimore Sun, Suggs' longtime girlfriend, Candace Williams, claimed the All-Pro punched her in the neck and dragged her alongside a speeding car with their two children in the vehicle. The woman said she suffered "severe road rash" as a result of the incident.

Suggs does not face criminal charges stemming from the September incident.

In December 2009, Williams alleged Suggs held her down on the floor, poured bleach on her and their son and kicked her in the face, breaking her nose, according to The Sun. Williams also claimed physical abuse dating to the start of their relationship in 2007.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000107329/article/terrell-suggs-girlfriend-claims-he-punched-her-in-neck
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/15/terrell-suggs-marries-woman-who-accused-him-of-domestic-violence/

Apparently domestic abuse is a time-honored Ravens tradition.
 
For those who think the prosecutor should have went forward with charges based on the video, you don't understand the law and how this really works.

Assuming that the prosecutor went forward, which they could.

Rice's wife would be advised by their (the Rice's) lawyer to take the 5th and float the notion of "mutual combatants" to the prosecutor which means that she's taking the 5th and that she's indicating she was throwing punches first (unlikely she was but this is how she would proceed to get him off the hook) and he was defending himself.

If she does this, the prosecutor can still proceed but a good lawyer would introduce enough doubt weaken the case enough to prevent any likely conviction difficult.

The prosecutor's only option is then grant his wife immunity from any crime related to this and force her to testify. Granting immunity takes away the 5th amendment since you can't incriminate yourself if you've got immunity. Granting immunity rarely happens though because the courts see this as a family matter and given his lawyer's ability to defend, delay, and weaken the case, it makes conviction unlikely so they tend to drop it. Rice's lawyer has also indicated by now that they plan on making this a "mutual combatant" case as well so the prosecutor knows even if she speaks, she's going to say she was throwing punches first.

I'm 100% sure that if she wanted to proceed with the case and were a cooperating witness, the prosecutor would go after him with a vengeance. The fact that she won't cooperate, makes the case unwinnable in the eyes of the prosecutor.

I know some are going to say "all you have to do is take a look at the video" but it isn't that easy in reality and prosecutors don't take cases to court that are difficult to win when the victim wants charges dropped as well. I've seen this happen a lot... it sucks but she has to be willing to cooperate

That folks is why domestic violence often ends up with someone severely injured or dead.


Are you a lawyer?
 
Welcome to Oakland. He wil fit right in there.
 
Wow I did not think they were going to do it. Now is the watch to see which team picks up this loser.
 


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