Note to Ian

pats1 said:

That's not the way it has worked.

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That's just my point. That is exactly how it has worked in the past. The change is what is being done now.

pats1 said:

Would they be more pertinent in the draft forum or the main forum?

What's the problem with condensing discussion (in this case) into 2 forums?

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Like I've stated, the main forum is slow and filled with threads that aren't very relevant to what's currently going on (and the draft process is currently going on). Also, I don't have a problem with the draft forum, because it's for the hardcore draft niks to break down every aspect. I believe this forum can handle a little draft discussion.

You still haven't answered Scott's question though - Was there a problem when every single draft thread wasn't being moved? You know the answer.

Scott37 said:

That's just my point. That is exactly how it has worked in the past. The change is what is being done now.

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And in the past, there weren't any Red Sox, Pub, or etc. forums. People complained about completely irrelevant off-topic threads. THEN those sub-forums were created. So you are only referring to a period of time where a great number of members were dissatisfied.

Believe me, this forum is one of the more liberal out there. I've been banned from my share of forums. Hell, I once got suspended from an MLB forum because I didn't show sympathy when Nomar tore his groin. After the Jaguars/Pats game in January 2006, I got banned from Jaguars.com simply because I was a Pats fan.

Seymour93 said:

You still haven't answered Scott's question though - Was there a problem when every single draft thread wasn't being moved? You know the answer.

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Thank you.

I await a reply.

pats1 said:

C'mon, Seymour, you're just being cynical now.

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I'm being cynical because you've stated your apathy towards college football in the past. Here's your very own words...

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=218254

pats1 said:

Oh, college football and the south...

Now, college football and the north outside of the midwest is, well, second-fiddle to almost every other sport.

But at least you linked it to the Pats. Otherwise, I have no care whatsoever for anything college football.

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Would someone who at least cares about the college game be so hard line about this issue as you are? Doubt it. And before you became a mod there was draft discussion going on here without problem.

Seymour93 said:

Like I've stated, the main forum is slow and filled with threads that aren't very relevant to what's currently going on (and the draft process is currently going on).

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And after the Chargers game, the first page of the main forum had about 10 minutes' worth of threads.

Seymour93 said:

Also, I don't have a problem with the draft forum, because it's for the hardcore draft niks to break down every aspect. I believe this forum can handle a little draft discussion.

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What's the point of having a little bit here and a little bit there?

Seymour93 said:

You still haven't answered Scott's question though - Was there a problem when every single draft thread wasn't being moved? You know the answer.

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"This is the place to come and Talk about the upcoming New England Patriots 2007 Draft."

'Nuf said.

Well Done Scott37, Fair play to ya Mate

your making some Excellent points

Seymour93 said:

I'm being cynical because you've stated your apathy towards college football in the past. Here's your very own words...

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=218254

Would someone who at least cares about the college game be so hard line about this issue as you are? Doubt it. And before you became a mod there was draft discussion going on here without problem.

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Oh, give me a break.

If you think that factors into what I do - which it doesn't - then talk to Ian about it.

Sey93, I think I gave a decent argument as to why the boards should be split ^^^^

Also, just look at the Planet and what a mess their front page is sometimes by not having more strict forums laid out.

Scott37,

How would you specifically like the forum laid out?

pats1 said:

People complained about completely irrelevant off-topic threads. THEN those sub-forums were created. So you are only referring to a period of time where a great number of members were dissatisfied.

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If the problem is that members are complaining about a certain thread then let's find a way to have the moderators take action only if there are a certain number of complaints, say 3, prior to an item being moved. Otherwise, why not leave them alone.

pats1 said:

Believe me, this forum is one of the more liberal out there. I've been banned from my share of forums. Hell, I once got suspended from an MLB forum because I didn't show sympathy when Nomar tore his groin. After the Jaguars/Pats game in January 2006, I got banned from Jaguars.com simply because I was a Pats fan.

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I simply don't care what is being done on other boards. Just because something negative was done to you in the past doesn't make it right. Why bring the negativity of those boards to this one by copying their actions.

BradyManny2344 said:

I think the main reason to have separate threads is that in the offseason, this main forum is going to be notably lighter in tone, whereas the draft forum will be at its most serious.

I think the main forum would be a little mess if you have folks on the one hand breaking down draft prospects in a very methodical and intricate manner and on the other, folks just trying to pass the offseason time with some lighthearted threads.

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I know what you're saying and I agree to an extent, but we're going to the other extreme here. I think this forum could tolerate draft discussion which isn't too specific but more Pats-related. There would be no forum meltdown if this occured. Well, we've seen it occur before pats1 became a mod and it didn't meltdown.

BradyManny2344 said:

Sey93, I think I gave a decent argument as to why the boards should be split ^^^^

Also, just look at the Planet and what a mess their front page is sometimes by not having more strict forums laid out.

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Whoa there BM, i have to call you on this one! What do you mean a mess?
PP is a waaay more relaxed forum than here, so what! does that mean that this site is better than PP? To Each His Own my friend, BOTH Sites are Patriots FANS Sites at the end of the day, they just Have a DIFFERENT set up, thats all. dont mean its wrong!!!!!!

Seymour93 said:

I know what you're saying and I agree to an extent, but we're going to the other extreme here. I think this forum could tolerate draft discussion which isn't too specific but more Pats-related. There would be no forum meltdown if this occured. Well, we've seen it occur before pats1 became a mod and it didn't meltdown.

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If you have an issue with me, take it up with Ian.

OK?

I'm done.

Seymour93 said:

I know what you're saying and I agree to an extent, but we're going to the other extreme here. I think this forum could tolerate draft discussion which isn't too specific but more Pats-related. There would be no forum meltdown if this occured. Well, we've seen it occur before pats1 became a mod and it didn't meltdown.

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Maybe, I think in the end it's almost arbitrary and its just best to pick one forum philosophy and stick with it.

Denism said:

Whoa there BM, i have to call you on this one! What do you mean a mess?
PP is a waaay more relaxed forum than here, so what! does that mean that this site is better than PP? To Each His Own my friend, BOTH Sites are Patriots FANS Sites at the end of the day, they just Have a DIFFERENT set up, thats all. dont mean its wrong!!!!!!

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No, it doesn't mean its wrong. It is, just as you say, to each his own. I just happen to think this is better. If I frequented PP more, I would probably be partial to their way of doing things. I much prefer the structure to this site as it makes it much easier to comb through for specific threads.

pats1 said:

Seymour93 said:

You still haven't answered Scott's question though - Was there a problem when every single draft thread wasn't being moved? You know the answer.

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"This is the place to come and Talk about the upcoming New England Patriots 2007 Draft."

'Nuf said.

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pats1 said:

Seymour93 said:

I'm being cynical because you've stated your apathy towards college football in the past. Here's your very own words...

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...reply&p=218254

Would someone who at least cares about the college game be so hard line about this issue as you are? Doubt it. And before you became a mod there was draft discussion going on here without problem.

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Oh, give me a break.

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Two responses now where you didn't really answer the question and another where you didn't address the issue. You have a hard time admitting that there wasn't a problem before all the draft threads started getting moved. Why is that?

EDIT: I've noticed that you can edit posts without the little line at the end showing up. Kinda scary.

pats1 said:

If you have an issue with me, take it up with Ian.

OK?

I'm done.

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Not issues with you personally (since I don't know you - this is the internet after all), just with the way you "moderate" this forum.

Seymour93 said:

You didn't answer his question. Was there really a problem when all draft related threads weren't moved?

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pats1 said:

If you have an issue with me, take it up with Ian.

OK?

I'm done.

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Look, I'm not here to get into an argument. A simple question was asked and to this point you have avoided it. Now you're done?

BradyManny2344 said:

No, it doesn't mean its wrong. It is, just as you say, to each his own. I just happen to think this is better. If I frequented PP more, I would probably be partial to their way of doing things. I much prefer the structure to this site as it makes it much easier to comb through for specific threads.

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Well not to Argue with you mate, but you said it yourself
"If I frequented PP more, I would probably be partial to their way of doing things."

so all i'll say to you mate is Dont knock it till you tried it, PP is an Excellent site with some excellent X's & O's guys there, yes its a bit more relaxed than here, you should visit it, heck, you never know, you might like it