Report: Ryan Mallett Traded to Houston for late pick

Dexter said:

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The mystery of the Ryan Mallett draft pick comes into focus: #Patriots get a 7th rounder that can become a 6th based on playing time.

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Oh well. At least that's a better condition.

SB39 said:

Any criticism of Belichick should not come from anything that happened today. The criticism should be the decision to spend a 3rd round pick on the guy they did.

Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying Belichick is a bad drafter. Like every single GM in the league, he has plenty of hits and misses. Mallett was one of the misses.

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This kind of thinking misses a lot of points. Mallett did his job here - he backed up Brady and saved the Pats 3-4 million a year against the cap. The Bills just had to lay out $5 million to Kyle Orton to go in and back up EJ. That's $5 million against their cap for a back up QB they hope doesn't have to play a snap.

That 3rd round pick returned 10+ million in cap money and garnered a sixth round pick as he's ending his rookie deal this year.

50-yard-line said:

This kind of thinking misses a lot of points. Mallett did his job here - he backed up Brady and saved the Pats 3-4 million a year against the cap. The Bills just had to lay out $5 million to Kyle Orton to go in and back up EJ. That's $5 million against their cap for a back up QB they hope doesn't have to play a snap.

That 3rd round pick returned 10+ million in cap money and garnered a sixth round pick as he's ending his rookie deal this year.

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Yep. I'm not really sure what people are upset about, the only way you get more for a QB prospect than you spent on them is if they get real playing time and perform well during it, that's when teams are willing to pony up a good pick for them. Belichick would have loved to get more but Mallett needed to shine in pre-season to get good value for him and he simply didn't do that. Belichick got something for him and that's obviously a win even if it isn't what we hoped BOB would be willing to give for him. They could have released him for nothing but got a potential 6th for him instead.

I'll go out on a limb and say they still go with 3 qbs at least part of the year. Maybe a vet on the PS, but I really think they pick one up.

RayClay said:

I'll go out on a limb and say they still go with 3 qbs at least part of the year. Maybe a vet on the PS, but I really think they pick one up.

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I'm not expecting them to pick up a vet, RC--unless he somehow ran a system that was similar in some important aspects.

I am expecting Garoppolo to be our backup now, with Bethel-Thompson our developmental QB on the practice squad. He's been around since 2011, so maybe he's your "vet on the PS?"

RayClay said:

I'll go out on a limb and say they still go with 3 qbs at least part of the year. Maybe a vet on the PS, but I really think they pick one up.

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They already did.

PS, you can't put a vested player on PS.

As delusional as some of us were regarding Mallett's value over the last couple of seasons, he just wasn't that good. Yes it's been only 1 preseason,but I think Garappolo showed more promise in 4 games then Mallett's showed the entire time he was here. The next time we decide to place value on a backup just look at the upside of Jimmy.

Ok I'll start. Garappolo for the first overall pick next draft. Ahh hell, why not make it the 1st next year and the one after as we'll.

PP2 said:

They already did.

PS, you can't put a vested player on PS.

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They already did what? Has the regular season started?

There are new practice squad rules. You can definitely have a practice squad player with a couple years experience. Jake Bequette, for instance can be on the squad and he's been here forever.

Bruins29 said:

So you seem be be indicating that 10% of this board figured RM was worth what he ended up bringing back in trade.

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There were people who said he isn't worth anything but a late rounder. Have to give those guys their props haha Pretty sure there was a poster who even said in this thread when it was announced "can't see anything higher than a 6th" spot on haha

Belichick should have unloaded Mallet years ago.

I'm really disappointed and surprised that this is all the league says he's worth. However I'm really excited that BB thinks JG is so mature that he's ready to be the backup. That's the real story for me in BB taking such a low price.

This thread makes me want to watch "The Brady 6" all over again.

In fact, I think I will.

Bruins29 said:

Exactly. I am not even sure what the poster was trying to do. Insult the whole board I guess??? Sure there were some people who thought RM was gonna net some 2nd or even 1st round pick. Whatever....

There were some that figured he was worth nothing or was going to be cut..which is pretty close to reality. Most just figured he could go to a team for something conditional...which he did. There is no need for 3 QB anyway. Rather have a player.

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No not really. I was just pointing out that as usual most of us are wrong as we have little information. There have been countless threads where people have argued polar opposites for Mallet's value. Where in the end it was in reality somewhere in the middle.

I don't see where I insulted anybody.

TommyBrady12 said:

Belichick should have unloaded Mallet years ago.

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He was our backup QB. There's value in that.

supafly said:

I'm not expecting them to pick up a vet, RC--unless he somehow ran a system that was similar in some important aspects.

I am expecting Garoppolo to be our backup now, with Bethel-Thompson our developmental QB on the practice squad. He's been around since 2011, so maybe he's your "vet on the PS?"

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Well, ran Mallet definitely wasn't right for our system, he was a poor man's Drew bledsoe, if anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see him thrive in a system that takes advantage of the big arm, slower developing patterns.

Nevertheless, it's my limb and i'm going to go out on it. To me, it's not who isthe best backup, it's, "do we throw our developmental QB to the wolves, if Brady is out for a period of time?"

I've seen a ton of very high picks be destroyed by the pressure being thrown in too soon and we're talking about a Division two guy who didn't have a playbook his last two years. Do they want to redraft again, if he declines instead of improves after some rough stints with no backup?

BelichickFan said:

He was our backup QB. There's value in that.

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Belichick could have gotten someone better to be the backup...he for some reason wanted to keep Mallett on the roster in the hope that he can turn him into a first/second rounder later on. It didn't work out. BB makes mistakes, this was one of them.

RayClay said:

Well, ran Mallet definitely wasn't right for our system, he was a poor man's Drew bledsoe, if anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see him thrive in a system that takes advantage of the big arm, slower developing patterns.

Nevertheless, it's my limb and i'm going to go out on it. To me, it's not who isthe best backup, it's, "do we throw our developmental QB to the wolves, if Brady is out for a period of time?"

I've seen a ton of very high picks be destroyed by the pressure being thrown in too soon and we're talking about a Division two guy who didn't have a playbook his last two years. Do they want to redraft again, if he declines instead of improves after some rough stints with no backup?

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Also...he can still be the backup. Brady was not the backup quarterback when Bledsoe went down. He was elevated over Huard, but Huard stayed as his backup.

jsull87 said:

No not really. I was just pointing out that as usual most of us are wrong as we have little information. There have been countless threads where people have argued polar opposites for Mallet's value. Where in the end it was in reality somewhere in the middle.

I don't see where I insulted anybody.

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Again, I dont get the "as usual most of us are wrong." Many of the posters here are some of the most knowledgeable people about football I have ever interacted with. If its a trade, they look at it from all angles, they know about players history, injuries, are usually good about predicting roster moves or in general who the best players might be. They understand why you trade a guy like LM now. They know all about draftees with amazing detail. Football techniques, League policies and rules, history of the game....Its all right here. You wont find more knowledgeable people outside of people employed by the NFL. And, as I stated yesterday, many of the posters here would put many of these pro football journalists to shame.

Sure there are a lot of times when people think they know what is going on with certain positions i.e. there might be a legit replacement for LM on the team now, when some were extremely concerned, and have a right to be.

I thought all the levelheaded posters were right about Mallet. Just because there is a strong contingent of complete imbeciles here dosent mean that the great posters have to be lumped in with them.

You are painting with too broad a brush.

RayClay said:

Well, ran Mallet definitely wasn't right for our system, he was a poor man's Drew bledsoe, if anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see him thrive in a system that takes advantage of the big arm, slower developing patterns.

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Agreed. We've seen other players go to other systems and thrive. Only time will tell. In the meantime, I think we're going with Garoppolo myself as the backup, but we'll see.

I don't see the reasoning in bringing in a vet if they don't know the system, but that's just my opinion.

Bruins29 said:

Again, I dont get the "as usual most of us are wrong." Many of the posters here are some of the most knowledgeable people about football I have ever interacted with. If its a trade, they look at it from all angles, they know about players history, injuries, are usually good about predicting roster moves or in general who the best players might be. They understand why you trade a guy like LM now. They know all about draftees with amazing detail. Football techniques, League policies and rules, history of the game....Its all right here. You wont find more knowledgeable people outside of people employed by the NFL. And, as I stated yesterday, many of the posters here would put many of these pro football journalists to shame.

Sure there are a lot of times when people think they know what is going on with certain positions i.e. there might be a legit replacement for LM on the team now, when some were extremely concerned, and have a right to be.

I thought all the levelheaded posters were right about Mallet. Just because there is a strong contingent of complete imbeciles here dosent mean that the great posters have to be lumped in with them.

You are painting with too broad a brush.

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Dude there are a ton of good posters here. 100% agree.

I don't know why you are taking issue with me saying that there was a ton of argument over Mallett's value on this board and that in the end most of us were wrong. You can go through the thread history if you want.

I think you are thinking i'm being a little more critical than I am being. Just saying that there was the "no one want him he's a bum" crowd and the "trade him for Andre Johnson" crowd and the reality was a 7th maybe 6th rounder for him.