Logan Mankins Traded

It Is What It Is >> Report: Tom Brady 'very upset' with Logan Mankins trade

Cue more body language talk throughout the season...

SVN said:

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...om-brady-very-upset-with-logan-mankins-trade/ Cue more body language talk throughout the season...

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Well for one thing, this article is a Ben Volin product and I discount anything that weasel has to say. Secondly, get the "they hate their coach" chants ready.

I don't blame him for being upset. That's natural.

the contract (more so than the assets received in return) appeared to be a primary catalyst for the deal.

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Behind Logan Mankins' trade from New England Patriots to Tampa Bay Buccaneers - espnBoston

So according to this information, the trade was made because the Patriots wanted Mankins to offer the team some cap relief and Mankins wanted the Patriots to honor the contract they signed.

SVN said:

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...om-brady-very-upset-with-logan-mankins-trade/ Cue more body language talk throughout the season...

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They worked closely together for years. Of course Brady's upset. So what?

Clutch-On-Tap said:

Well for one thing, this article is a Ben Volin product and I discount anything that weasel has to say. Secondly, get the "they hate their coach" chants ready.

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The link is from weei.com so that's not Ben Volin.

yeah...must be Ben Violin

it's this guy: "veteran NFL reporter Jason Cole reports..."

Off The Grid said:

01 ~ Considering that the vast majority of "Skill Position" Players actually remain very close to their Pre-Draft weight, your assertion that "Height and weight for a year and a half ago are about as useful as combine 40 times." is ludicrous, to put it kindly. As I said: "Tim Wright, unless he's beefed up considerably from his College 6030/219, is a Split End."


02 ~ Correction: Not "everyone" wanted to switch Harrison to Flex End. I was adamantly against it.

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I was mainly talking about weight, which can change most definitely. What evidence do you have that their weights don't change? Have they weighed him since then? It certainly isn't ludicrous for a 6'3 guy in his early twenties to put on 10-20 pounds. It just isn't. A 22 year old isn't physically mature yet. You don't have to be gymrat to realize that. So to put in kindly Brother Grid, I think you are wrong re: weight.

And on 2, you've been on the board long enough to know that everyone doesn't mean every single poster.

You're the TE guru and I bow to your considerable knowledge (and I mean that sincerely, not Internet sarcastically) and I'm not going to question you on Flex/Split or whatever. But either way the Pats obviously have an idea on how they would like to use him.

The link from weei.com cites Jason Cole from The Bleacher Report. There is another link form nesn.com that refers to Volin.

JackBauer said:

I don't blame him for being upset. That's natural.

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Exactly. Why wouldn't he be upset?

why?..because it's upsetting to ME!!! No one cares about MY feelings!!

you brutes...

BTW...I detest Jason Cole. I am a lifelong Dolphin hater. He was a decade long sphincter pimple for that scumbag organization.

Joker said:

He was a decade long sphincter pimple for that scumbag organization.

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Wow - was that on his business card?

Zeus said:

The link from weei.com cites Jason Cole from The Bleacher Report. There is another link form nesn.com that refers to Volin.

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Looks like the same source possibly: "Ben Volin of The Boston Globe reported, citing a league source"

Looks like BS

Zeus said:

Wow - what that on his business card?

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No...this was...

It's Too Bad That Dan Won't Get His Ring

AndyJohnson said:

Bigger, stronger receivers, emphasis on contact, ability of receivers to run free, plus spreading the field and having something like Gronk, Edelman, Lafell, Dobson, Vereen out there = lots of quick passes before the pass rush has a chance to get near him.
I'm saying increase the amount of passes by adding additional ones that takew advantage of all of this and happen so quickly they can't lay a finger on Brady.

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We haven't seen Gronk on the field yet but if the refs treat him like every other receiver has been treated he becomes nearly impossible to cover.

Of course I would be upset too. You just traded away the heart and soul of that OL, for no immediate improvement to this year's squad. (maybe some help next year in extending guys) Pats really should start thinking about going all-in for a season because once Brady is gone, cap savings and 4th round picks aren't going to bring in rings.

KontradictioN said:

Exactly. Why wouldn't he be upset?

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Exactly. They should all be upset at losing a teammate and friend. Just like they were upset when they lost Lawyer and I'm sure a bunch of them when they lost Bledsoe, SB or no SB.

I wonder if all the players that are "pissed" about the Mankins trade would've been willing to all take paycuts to retain him, since they care so much about him

juny said:

Of course I would be upset too. You just traded away the heart and soul of that OL, for no immediate improvement to this year's squad. (maybe some help next year in extending guys) Pats really should start thinking about going all-in for a season because once Brady is gone, cap savings and 4th round picks aren't going to bring in rings.

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Yep, may as well go all in and ignore the fact that there will be a team long after Brady is gone and it just might be possible to win a SB without him. QB's like Russel and Joe F'ing Flacco have done so.