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BB & co. once valued Logan Mankins enough to sign him to a contract with $30 million in guaranteed money. If they thought he was still near to that kind of player, they wouldn't have traded him.

It was actually $20M guaranteed, but for practical purposes, the potential dead money would have kept him from being cut prior to this year, so he made $31M for his 3 years here. I doubt BB and the Krafts waste much effort on buyer's remorse, but if Mankins wasn't worth the additional $6.5M this year, I'm guessing they would feel that he wasn't worth $10M+ each of the last three years. That is, of course, a backwards-looking valuation, but it does point out the risk of front-loaded contracts, where a player is not considered worth investing future dollars at 60% of his average pay to date.

The evaluation of Arrington will be similar next year - albeit on a somewhat smaller scale. If the increased competition at CB pushes him into a backup and ST role, the decision will likely be the same, and the average pay over 2 years would not look good then either.
 
I definitely agree with that point for sure.
I don't think it will take long for him to put on another 10+ pounds or so. At the moment, I'm assuming that he's around 225 or so.
Could be a great acquisition down the stretch of the last 6+ reg season and into the postseason.

If he is at 225, he's likely to stay at 225. Players tend not to gain weight during the season with all the running around they do. The time to put on weight is in the spring, when you can spend more time in the weight room and do less intensive conditioning work. Hopefully, that happened this last off-season, and he is running around at 230+, but if he was being moved to the slot, I would think not.
 
does everyone remember our buddy Mark Harrison? you know the guy that was a secret weapon that we were going to convert to move tight end...

well at rutgers, timmy was behind both mark and brandon coleman (who I had hope to draft)....just so that we can temper expectations on the find

that said, yes, he did put in some work in TB last year...and hopefully his game is on the up...
 
does everyone remember our buddy Mark Harrison? you know the guy that was a secret weapon that we were going to convert to move tight end...

well at rutgers, timmy was behind both mark and brandon coleman (who I had hope to draft)....just so that we can temper expectations on the find

that said, yes, he did put in some work in TB last year...and hopefully his game is on the up...

Well, the difference is that there already is tape on Tim Wright playing in the NFL against professional opponents. He made it onto the field. In a way it doesn't matter where he was in terms of the depth chart while in College. He already outplayed Harrison substantially on a professional level.
 
does everyone remember our buddy Mark Harrison? you know the guy that was a secret weapon that we were going to convert to move tight end...

well at rutgers, timmy was behind both mark and brandon coleman (who I had hope to draft)....just so that we can temper expectations on the find

that said, yes, he did put in some work in TB last year...and hopefully his game is on the up...

t-5th all-time in most receptions by a rookie TE
t-12th all-time in most receiving yards by a rookie TE
t-9th all-time in TDs by a rookie TE

http://www.pro-football-reference.c...pos_is_db=Y&draft_pos_is_k=Y&draft_pos_is_p=Y
 
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I just read on a report by Reiss that Wright lined up last year detached from the formation most often, but also lined up on the line of scrimmage, as well as "in the offensive backfield."

Does anyone know if that was in a fullback type role, or if he was getting handoffs like we used to do with Hernandez a couple years ago? I really loved those plays...
 
I just read on a report by Reiss that Wright lined up last year detached from the formation most often, but also lined up on the line of scrimmage, as well as "in the offensive backfield."

Does anyone know if that was in a fullback type role, or if he was getting handoffs like we used to do with Hernandez a couple years ago? I really loved those plays...

That line caught my attention, too. I'm intrigued to learn more.
 
I just read on a report by Reiss that Wright lined up last year detached from the formation most often, but also lined up on the line of scrimmage, as well as "in the offensive backfield."

Does anyone know if that was in a fullback type role, or if he was getting handoffs like we used to do with Hernandez a couple years ago? I really loved those plays...
He only had 1 rushing attempt last year. I doubt they'll hand off the ball to him much, he's nowhere near as agile as Hernandez. Shame cuz I liked those plays too :(
 
He only had 1 rushing attempt last year. I doubt they'll hand off the ball to him much, he's nowhere near as agile as Hernandez. Shame cuz I liked those plays too :(

Yeah, I got kind of sad thinking about those plays too :(
 
btw ....I think he will do better here. I personally don't like Lovie's offense......
 
I just read on a report by Reiss that Wright lined up last year detached from the formation most often, but also lined up on the line of scrimmage, as well as "in the offensive backfield."

Does anyone know if that was in a fullback type role, or if he was getting handoffs like we used to do with Hernandez a couple years ago? I really loved those plays...

That line caught my attention, too. I'm intrigued to learn more.

He only had 1 rushing attempt last year. I doubt they'll hand off the ball to him much, he's nowhere near as agile as Hernandez. Shame cuz I liked those plays too :(

Hernandez/move TE lining up the backfield for the Pats is in many ways an artifact of the offensive system the Pats run, Erhardt-Perkins. Broadly speaking, Erhardt-Perkins is highly structured and hierarchical in its terminology and concepts: a base formation is specified, followed by modifications to that formation, followed by play number (important for QB steps and line responsibilities), followed by route concepts for strong and weak sides. These formations and the positions they contain apply to all personnel groupings. The default formations consist of two receivers, a tight end, a fullback, and a halfback, and these terms never change, just as the route concepts never change based on formation. The third wide receiver, second tight end, or even second halfback in "pony" packages are technically the fullback in the actual playbook formations.

All the base formations in Erhardt-Perkins have the fullback lined up in the backfield. It requires a formation modification, like "3 Out" instead of just "3" to move the F to a "WR spot." Consequently, just as a technique to see what the defense is doing if not an accident based on an audible, you'd expect at some point the "F" to line up in the backfield, no matter the personnel group, and, if the defense looks completely lost, for that F guy to get a handoff. At least that's what you'd get with a QB like Tom Brady with complete command of the offense. Hernandez turned out to be pretty good at it so the Pats went back to it occasionally, no idea about Wright, but in Coryell and West Coast (and hybrids of the two, like "Gulf Coast") that sort of stuff doesn't happen as organically.

Anyways, this is relevant because I'm guessing Tampa Bay ran Erhardt-Perkins last year under Mike Sullivan, who was formally on the staff of the NY Giants, who also run Erhardt-Perkins. This also means that Tim Wright won't be learning a whole new offensive playbook.
 
I'm sure thre are some major differences in the offenses. I really don't see him as being a factor until around the 8th game this year, this is like his training camp, the nxt few weeks.
 
I'm sure thre are some major differences in the offenses. I really don't see him as being a factor until around the 8th game this year, this is like his training camp, the nxt few weeks.

Terminology will be different (the formation in New England might be called "3" whereas in Tampa it was called "Laser", the double slant concept might be "Tosser" whereas in Tampa it was "Sled"), what his coaches want him to do on routes will be different, the players around him in formations will be different, his QB will be different, and even his role and/or position in the offense will be modified from where he was in Tampa Bay. But if he's coming from an Erhardt-Perkins system the route concepts and the general structure will be familiar to him. He would in short arrive already speaking Greek, just learning the local dialect.
 
According to p-f-r, the Bucs ran a "Balanced" offensive scheme last season, whatever that means. Maybe that means a mix of Air Coryell, West Coast, and Erhardt-Perkins? No idea.

2013 Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Pro Football Reference

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What I like is, there is definitely some good red zone threats that are decent size, with Gronk, Dobson, Lafell and now Wright (and hopefully Tyms). Though we may not see the effect of having Gronk, Dobson and Wright on the field until they are up to speed.
 
According to p-f-r, the Bucs ran a "Balanced" offensive scheme last season, whatever that means. Maybe that means a mix of Air Coryell, West Coast, and Erhardt-Perkins? No idea.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/tam/2013.htm

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Nice catch. No idea either. I think that's PFR's default "I have no idea" placeholder, and only Tennessee and Tampa have it. Eagles are "spread," everybody else is a Big Three system. NYG according to them is Erhardt-Perkins. Also according to them, Mike Shula replaced Chudzinski's Air Coryell with Erhardt-Perkins last year in Carolina. The news items I read indicated that he was "tweaking" Chudzinski's offense, but they were obviously written for general fans, i.e. "you likely won't notice much of a difference, but we're installing a completely new playbook."

See: Offensive scheme categories on Pro Football Reference | Big Blue Interactive
Giants fans don't know what "balanced" means either. There's a lot of confusion over what a system is. A lot of people take it to mean philosophy, like "spread" or "run-heavy."
 
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I like what I see from the videos. He's not as dynamic as Hernandez in the open field, but I see him running good routes and getting open. His size is also an asset on those red zone conversions.

A couple years from now we might be talking about what a bargain Tim Wright was on the level of the Wes Welker acquisition for just a 2nd and 7th round pick.

We certainly did have a need at TE. I'm not thrilled at what we had to give up, but if the salary we freed up is used to extend Revis long term then the move makes sense. The idea of Revis for another 4 years plus Wright plus a 4th sounds better than Revis for only 1 year and Mankins for another 3 years.
 
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