Logan Mankins Traded

resdubwhite · Aug 26, 2014

un ****ing believable. I'm floored by this.lets hope BB knows whats he's doing to keep Tommy upright.

SVN · Aug 26, 2014

strngplyr said:
It's Volin, so believe what you want:

Ben Volin‏@BenVolin4m
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NY Jet defensive player upon hearing of Mankins trade: “I’m not surprised.”

Volin is more plugged into a jets defensive player than any pats player ?

stelfans · Aug 26, 2014

chasa said:
LOL take a breath, the patriots Oline is not the worst in the league.

I know im exaggerating but every time i see wendell as our starting center i throw up in my mouth.

TriplecHamp · Aug 26, 2014

VrabelJr said:
Did you just say New Orleans had a top secondary last year?

second only to Sea in YPG, thats with Vaccoro and Greer missing time. They had some terrible jag play when Greer went down.

Ivan · Aug 26, 2014

KontradictioN said:
Interior pass protection was the team's major weakness in 2012 and 2013. Naturally, BB responds by trading away the best interior OL (and best OL altogether) on the roster? This, on the surface, appears to be a move that hurts the team needlessly. Not high on the compensation, either. I just don't see the point.

I will only become a fan of this move if it leads directly to a new deal for Revis that keeps him here for a long time. i like McCourty but freeing up the money just to re-sign him would not be enough imo, however if this leads to a Revis deal I can see it.

ivanvamp · Aug 26, 2014

The only huge backlash BB will face is if the interior of the OL (especially LG) allows a sack that ends up injuring Brady.

Rob0729 · Aug 26, 2014

strngplyr said:
It's Volin, so believe what you want:

Ben Volin‏@BenVolin4m
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NY Jet defensive player upon hearing of Mankins trade: “I’m not surprised.”

I don't know why anyone would be surprised. A player on the decline, who is over 30, and making one of the highest salaries on the team. How could a move like this be shocking? After Malloy and Seymour? And at least those two were still more in their prime than Mankins.

unoriginal · Aug 26, 2014

This most reminds me of the board's reaction when Mike Vrabel was thrown into the KC Cassel trade for nothing. Probably the best example of the Pats doing a pure salary dump.

Or perhaps the 2nd + 7th for Wes Welker went he really wasn't worth more than a 4th.

There are of course trades like this that didn't pan out, such as Ellis Hobbs ultimately for the draft pick to take Rich Ohrnberger, but even there you can see what the Pats were doing. Hobbs wouldn't be re-signed, last year of rookie contract, injury concerns, traded for draft capital. And Ohrnberger, despite never panning out for the Pats, has put together a decent NFL career elsewhere.

The Mankins trade has so many potential benefits to it, from cap space to draft pick to young player at a position that was a hole on the roster, that I'm comfortable with it, even if I have no idea how the interior line will shake out.

dales804 · Aug 26, 2014

strngplyr said:
It's Volin, so believe what you want:

Ben Volin‏@BenVolin4m
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NY Jet defensive player upon hearing of Mankins trade: “I’m not surprised.”

Yeah, the Jets player probably isn't saying anything about Mankins but rather taking a shot at NE and how BB does business.

strngplyr · Aug 26, 2014

dales804 said:
Yeah, the Jets player probably isn't saying anything about Mankins but rather taking a shot at NE and how BB does business.

I can see both, I can see it as "Well he certainly wasn't performing at a 10.5m level so its not news" as well as "That's how they do."

kennyb · Aug 26, 2014

Get a 4th rounder AND get a huge salary off the books. And get a up and coming and CHEAP player.

I like it.

BB sticks to his formula...Mankins wasn't worth the money, not even close probably. Kline comes in and can do just as good a job most likely.

Guards used to be a dime a dozen.

AzPatsFan · Aug 26, 2014

BradyFTW! said:
I would be totally fine with this... if we had a proven C and/or RG. Mankins is in the decline, and while he's still very good, he was going to be a cap casualty next year anyway. But making this trade now just makes the weakest unit on the team even worse. Looks like someone out of Halapio/Kline/Devey is going to have to be ready to start right away.

Re: Wright, he was pretty good in Tampa last year, and being a Rutgers guy I'm sure Belichick has been scouting him for the past 5 years. But I have a hard time seeing he alone being worth the kind of upheaval that this is going to create on a key unit of the offense. It only kinda makes sense as a trade-off to me if the pick is a good one (1st or 2nd round, and I can't imagine TB giving up a 1st).

I'll never understand how Belichick can look at Brady--a pure pocket passer if there ever was one--and elect to start three unproven and/or bad interior linemen in front of him. I fully expect this to be the team's achilles heel; it's by far the weakest unit we have.

We do have veterans at C and RG that were good enough to get to three consecutive AFCCGs and a SuperBowl, plus some new people too.

BradyToAmendola · Aug 26, 2014

We have a lot of options at guard. Connolly, Cannon, Kline, Wendell (if Stork wins the C job), and possibly Jordan Devey. Giving up an average G to pick up a good player in Tim Wright at a position of need is a great trade.

Ivan · Aug 26, 2014

50-yard-line said:
I'm guessing they looked at the numbers and saw they'd have to release a guy they want to develop...Halapio, maybe?...and knew they wouldn't have him next year anyway.

So they pulled the trigger, got something for him, and cleared cap space.

But not sure I like it.

I agree with this to some point, Belichick has a tendency to re-do entire units over a short time span and the OL was the one he was focusing on this offseason with the 3 picks, i doubt he wanted to let any of them go and was looking at the big picture more than the short term. I do think they were going to ask Mankins to re-do his deal, or possibly already looked into that, and if history is any indicator then it was never going to happen and they knew a release would be coming and it would be somewhat ugly with not getting anything in return. I hope Belichick and Googe are right about the young guys because nothing would explode their hopes of a Lombardi more than a bad interior OL.

shmessy · Aug 26, 2014

Vincent Verhei @FO_VVerhei
Most RecYds by rookie TE this century: J.Shockey (894), J. Carlson (627), T. Wright (571).

JackBauer · Aug 26, 2014

DaBruinz said:
You're making the assumption that Wendell is on the roster. You're also making assumption that trading Mankins had anything to do with Wendell and not everything to do with the Salary Cap and getting Wright.

To the best of my knowledge, Wendell is still on the roster.

As to your second point, that could certainly be the case. However, in light of recent events the notion that Mankins only looked bad because of Wendell's suckage doesn't appear to have much validity.

MrNathanDrake · Aug 26, 2014

Tim Wrights rookie stats are comparable to Aaron Hernendez's

Hazy · Aug 26, 2014

So it was most likely the Bucs reaching out to the Pats to initiate the trade not the other way around, as the Bucs called the 49ers first about Boone.

DaBruinz · Aug 26, 2014

JackBauer said:
To the best of my knowledge, Wendell is still on the roster.

As to your second point, that could certainly be the case. However, in light of recent events the notion that Mankins only looked bad because of Wendell's suckage doesn't appear to have much validity.

So, because you have nothing to contradict that the reason for the trade is the cap relief and to get Tim Wright, you totally discount the reality of last year's situation and the situation in training camp. The fact that Wendell has had only 1 series of snaps with the 1st team and spent the rest of the time with the 2nd and 3rd stringers.

It's much more likely that Wendell's standing with the team played no part in the decision to trade Mankins.

pencilneckgeek · Aug 26, 2014

Sometimes I wish our GM would talk to our coach before getting all value-conscious on us.

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