Teams with 4 consecutive winning seasons?

hwc · Aug 6, 2014

Hat tip to the GM of the Carolina Panthers on Sirius XM NFL radio:

How many NFL teams start the 2104 season coming off four consecutive winning seasons?

hwc · Aug 6, 2014

HINT: one of them was 8-7-1 last year.

Wheelman · Aug 6, 2014

Packers, Patriots

Teams with 6 consecutive winning seasons leading into the 2014 season: Patriots

Didn't even have to look it up although I did after my guess to make sure.

hwc · Aug 6, 2014

Correct. Just two teams in the NFL have four consecutive winning seasons. The Pats have thirteen consecutive winning seasons.

I think that's why I get so aggravated with the home-town negativity.

Wheelman · Aug 6, 2014

That's because they say Superbowls is what counts. They're not wrong.

But sustained success makes it harder on the team in regards to the draft. Plus we've been unlucky with Gronk, and Talib not playing when it really matters. To be able to rebuild on the fly and still win is phenomenal.

PATSNUTme · Aug 6, 2014

What am I missing here? The Patriots start 2014, with 13 consecutive winning seasons.

dales804 · Aug 6, 2014

PATSNUTme said:
What am I missing here? The Patriots start 2014, with 13 consecutive winning seasons.

I think the question, as it was phrased, was to prove how difficult it is to win year after year. Going with the four year time period hammers the point home.

You are correct that it's been 13 straight winning seasons (2001-2013 and counting).

ctpatsfan77 · Aug 6, 2014

PATSNUTme said:
What am I missing here? The Patriots start 2014, with 13 consecutive winning seasons.

Just that it's only the Patriots and the Packers, and them only if you count 8-7-1 as "winning."

Take it up to 9 wins and it's just the NEP.

manxman2601 · Aug 6, 2014

Discounting the year he missed, Peyton Manning has 11 consecutive years of QB'ing a team to a winning record. Not trying to put a downer on the Pats achievement but I think the value of having an NFL great QB on the roster can't be understated.

unoriginal · Aug 6, 2014

hwc said:
Hat tip to the GM of the Carolina Panthers on Sirius XM NFL radio:

How many NFL teams start the 2104 season coming off four consecutive winning seasons?

Knowing the answer to this question is very impressive indeed.

DarrylS · Aug 7, 2014

manxman2601 said:
Discounting the year he missed, Peyton Manning has 11 consecutive years of QB'ing a team to a winning record. Not trying to put a downer on the Pats achievement but I think the value of having an NFL great QB on the roster can't be understated.

If a player misses a year and his team has a losing season, the string is broken...

Brady went down, but this team still had a winning season..

AzorianPats · Aug 7, 2014

manxman2601 said:
Discounting the year he missed, Peyton Manning has 11 consecutive years of QB'ing a team to a winning record. Not trying to put a downer on the Pats achievement but I think the value of having an NFL great QB on the roster can't be understated.

All true Manx, but isn't Drew Bree's considered great also? I'm sure his streak doesn't go back that far.

BTTA · Aug 7, 2014

Wheelman said:
That's because they say Superbowls is what counts. They're not wrong./QUOTE]

If that's being put forth as the sole metric, it is wrong. There is huge value, for owners, players, and fans, in having a team that will provide the pleasure of victory more often than not. That value is financial and emotional.

The Pats are on a level all alone in this regard, as this thread points out.

PATSNUTme · Aug 7, 2014

manxman2601 said:
Discounting the year he missed, Peyton Manning has 11 consecutive years of QB'ing a team to a winning record. Not trying to put a downer on the Pats achievement but I think the value of having an NFL great QB on the roster can't be understated.

Discounting the shot I hit in the water. I got a birdie on a tough par 5 the other day.

manxman2601 · Aug 7, 2014

DarrylS said:
If a player misses a year and his team has a losing season, the string is broken...

Brady went down, but this team still had a winning season..

I'm not denying the Patriots' achievement, just pointing out that I think the QB is the underlying cause behind the streak. We should consider ourselves lucky that we had Matt Cassell rather than Curtis Painter.

AzorianPats said:
All true Manx, but isn't Drew Bree's considered great also? I'm sure his streak doesn't go back that far.

Firstly I wouldn't consider Brees an all time great in the same way I do Manning and Brady and secondly I'm not suggesting a great QB is the only factor in being able to establish a such a streak, clearly coaching, play calling, roster management, et al are a factor but I don't think it a coincidence that the two best QBs are the two that can claim such a streak. I very much doubt we'd have gone 13 seasons unbeaten without Brady at the helm.

Ivan · Aug 7, 2014

manxman2601 said:
I'm not denying the Patriots' achievement, just pointing out that I think the QB is the underlying cause behind the streak. We should consider ourselves lucky that we had Matt Cassell rather than Curtis Painter.

QB is certainly the key component but as was pointed out there are many great QB's who have not been able to sustain that success when they were having the team rebuilt around them, and they went 11-5 when Brady was down. Belichcik has rebuilt this team completely several times over Brady's career and they have never dropped out of contention, that's an amazing feat.

Kontradiction · Aug 7, 2014

manxman2601 said:
I'm not denying the Patriots' achievement, just pointing out that I think the QB is the underlying cause behind the streak. We should consider ourselves lucky that we had Matt Cassell rather than Curtis Painter.

I would have much rather had Painter and the #1 overall pick.

Mike the Brit · Aug 7, 2014

KontradictioN said:
I would have much rather had Painter and the #1 overall pick.

Not me. If that team hadn't been squeezed out of the playoffs by the narrowest margin, they could have achieved a lot.

Nehalem · Aug 7, 2014

manxman2601 said:
Discounting the year he missed, Peyton Manning has 11 consecutive years of QB'ing a team to a winning record. Not trying to put a downer on the Pats achievement but I think the value of having an NFL great QB on the roster can't be understated.

Technically Manning was on the roster the entire season I believe

shmessy · Aug 7, 2014

DarrylS said:
If a player misses a year and his team has a losing season, the string is broken...

Brady went down, but this team still had a winning season..

Exactly.

To Manxman's point:

Don't you think it IS Manning's fault that he didn't take the same hometown discounts along the way that Brady took for his team? It certainly helped Brady's team be a stronger team in the event of his injury, versus Manning's.

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