7/31 - end of the week highlight edition.

Joker · Jul 31, 2014

he looks like he just baked about 500 spinach pies...and ate them

Uncle Rico · Jul 31, 2014

patfanken said:
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BTW- for a midweek practice, the place was packed. Well over 10,000 and a packed bleachers. I mean I have an excuse being retired. I have to wonder if employers know where their employees are.

Must be all them Market Basket employees with nothing better to do.

supafly · Aug 1, 2014

james87654 said:
lol......im a patriot/BB fan......just like poking fun at brady about harmless stuff.....and i like brady as well

if someone put a gun to my head right now and asked whether deus had multiple accounts.......i would say yes........and feel pretty good about it

just my opinion

Just for whatever it's worth to you, James:

ZEUS is a well informed poster and also writes articles on the front page of this site from time to time under his real name. His writing style is very good, and he often combines humor with his analysis. You probably won't see him posting all that often, or at least nearly as often as many others.

DEUS IRAE is also a very well informed poster, who has been here quite awhile, and has a ton of football expertise. I don't believe that he has any other accounts, nor would he care to have any other accounts, from my knowledge of him.

ANDY JOHNSON was a former Patriots player in the older days (unless you are WICKED PISSAH or JOKER, in which case, they were still 70 years old when he played). I'm just joking around and making an easy age targeted attempt at humor. It's actually kind of a pathetic attempt from me...they really aren't even that old.

supafly · Aug 1, 2014

Thanks for the updates, Ken.

Interesting to hear that Ebner was receiving reps with the ones yesterday, although I imagine that's pretty much the norm in TC to some degree. Hopefully, someone stands out there, but I'm guessing that this is just a case of not officially handing the job to Harmon (a rookie last year) more than a concern that Harmon can't get the job done. Just my opinion, but I think we'll see Harmon getting more looks with the ones as camp moves on.

james87654 · Aug 1, 2014

supafly said:
Just for whatever it's worth to you, James:

ZEUS is a well informed poster and also writes articles on the front page of this site from time to time under his real name. His writing style is very good, and he often combines humor with his analysis. You probably won't see him posting all that often, or at least nearly as often as many others.

DEUS IRAE is also a very well informed poster, who has been here quite awhile, and has a ton of football expertise. I don't believe that he has any other accounts, nor would he care to have any other accounts, from my knowledge of him.

ANDY JOHNSON was a former Patriots player in the older days (unless you are WICKED PISSAH or JOKER, in which case, they were still 70 years old when he played). I'm just joking around and making an easy age targeted attempt at humor. It's actually kind of a pathetic attempt from me...they really aren't even that old.

ok.....thanks, i appreciate it supafly

Christiancat · Aug 1, 2014

james87654 said:
...how many accounts does deus have?......or am i just being overly suspicious?.....im not expecting you to tell me......but i have my hunches

Deus is an upstanding poster who is very knowledge about football and lots of other things. What you see is what you get with him. Deus is simply Deus and that's that. He posts very well thought out, straightforward posts. Deus is someone who should be looked to on this board for guidance. He is a very nice, fair, and helpful poster who carries himself well. FWIW I hold Deus in a high regard.

Overall, Deus is an asset to this board and you should NOT be suspicious of Deus whatsoever.

james87654 · Aug 1, 2014

Christiancat said:
Deus is an upstanding poster who is very knowledge about football and lots of other things. What you see is what you get with him. Deus is simply Deus and that's that. He posts very well thought out, straightforward posts. Deus is someone who should be looked to on this board for guidance. He is a very nice, fair, and helpful poster who carries himself well. FWIW I hold Deus in a high regard.

Overall, Deus is an asset to this board and you should NOT be suspicious of Deus whatsoever.

well.....i dont mean to cast aspersions on him......but he is somewhat of an enigma for various reasons....the prolific number of his posts......the quality of most of them, despite occasional arrogance........the sheer amount of time he must spend following the pats and the nfl......he seems rather secretive.......he just kind of stokes my curiosity......i have no doubt that he is an asset to the board in many ways

james87654 · Aug 1, 2014

Deus Irae said:
The only time I've ever used multiple names, to my recollection, is back in the day when I was an AOL member and they gave you up to 5. I used 1 for the everyday, 1 for internet shopping, 1 for business, and had 2 in reserve. I did use one of the reserve names as part of a gag in a chat room, but everyone except the prank victim knew it was me.

The NSA can probably verify that for you.

well.....deus.....like i told that other dude, christiancat......i dont mean to cast aspersions on you.....and if i did so unfairly, then i sincerely apologize

patfanken · Aug 1, 2014

Deus Irae said:
Two things:

Pressure on the Brady INT reportedly came up the middle, from Wilfork, and forced Brady to throw early.

A couple of quick questions DI. Where were you sitting that you saw this "pressure" from Wilfolk force Brady throw early? And if you weren't at practice, who did you get the report from which claimed Wendell was the reason for the pressure?

I wasn't specifically watching the OL on that play, but my recollection is clear that that "Brady didn't have to throw "early", in fact the throw came well into his progression as I pointed out in my initial post. Your post kinda makes me wonder if you are just piling on the Wendell hate crusade. Let me if I am mistaken.

BTW- if, as you claim, Wilfolk caused the pressure, it would have been a first for big Vince. While he has been fairly solid as a run stopper in the middle, I can't recall him providing much push in pass rush situations.

I haven't commented on Vince much, even though I've occasionally focused in on him. First let me say that I find it astonishing that he's even on the field at this early date. Even more remarkable is that he hasn't missed or been held out of a single drill or team activity. In fact the ONLY concession I've seen him take is his failure to do any of the hops, skips, or extensions others do during warm ups, and for all know that might have been part of his warm up routine for years.

That being said, my highest expectation for Vince prior to camp would be that he come back and be a capable run stuffer in short yardage and GL situations. He's never been much of a pass rusher, or pocket pusher to start with, and from what I've seen he still isn't. I think there is every chance that Vince IS going to be an asset against the run, but I doubt very much we will see him out there in passing situations. Any snap count over 35% will surprise me this year. But its still early on in his rehab. I've learned it's not wise to bet against the big man. He's far exceeded my expectations thus far.

On another note, what is all this talk about Boyce not being on the field today. I specifically recall seeing him at the start of practice, though I don't recall seeing him much during it.

FInally, its interesting to see how my initial posts have gone off on such tangents. Still, on the plus side, I now know where to go for my supply of corn silk tea.

patfanken · Aug 1, 2014

FlyboyPatsFan said:
Patfanken,

I don't post much nor use many features beside 'next page' or else I'd have replied to you privately. I have two extra tickets for tomorrow's in stadium practice. email me at [email protected] if you want one.

-bv

Thank you very much for your kind offer. I'll be in touch in the morning if I can go.

DarrylS · Aug 1, 2014

patfanken said:
Thank you very much for your kind offer. I'll be in touch in the morning if I can go.

If you do would you still label that practice as elitist??

Your TC posts rival any that I have seen, and share your joy of sharing Pats knowledge amongst newcomers and children... when I go alone I sit in the frying pan that are the bleachers, and love to listen to kids, share binoculars and often tell folks what and who they are seeing.. sharing my knowledge is a great joy.

The kids are great fun, they really get off on Gronk and Brady...

KevinFaulk-33 · Aug 1, 2014

Here's a video of the INT that you were previously discussing:

http://instagram.com/p/rIWTUYvBAc

I hope it works

Zeus · Aug 1, 2014

patfanken said:
On another note, what is all this talk about Boyce not being on the field today. I specifically recall seeing him at the start of practice, though I don't recall seeing him much during it.

Ken, I distinctly remember seeing #82 yesterday. For what it's worth, Ben Volin lists Boyce as a limited participant in this morning's report on yesterday's practice.

Zeus · Aug 1, 2014

KontradictioN said:
Watching infrared of someone fart at the airport is more interesting than midseason MLB.

I have to say it's just awesome that someone has designated this post as being "Useful."

pencilneckgeek · Aug 1, 2014

supafly said:
Interesting to hear that Ebner was receiving reps with the ones yesterday, although I imagine that's pretty much the norm in TC to some degree. Hopefully, someone stands out there, but I'm guessing that this is just a case of not officially handing the job to Harmon (a rookie last year) more than a concern that Harmon can't get the job done. Just my opinion, but I think we'll see Harmon getting more looks with the ones as camp moves on.

I think it's more a case of nobody having earned a starting spot yet. Harmon was decent last year, but he hadn't won a starting spot then, so there's no reason to assume that he would be given it now before the competition is half over. Perhaps, this was a day when Ebner wasn't busy elsewhere (with folks standing around waiting their turn) and could actually get reps with the first team for a look, rather than being busy with the punt team. We'll see all of them get reps with the first team D again before week 3 of the pre-season rolls around, at which point we might expect BB to tip his hand.

pencilneckgeek · Aug 1, 2014

Joker said:
Best source for camp notes on the net, AF...read it through on today's practice..[/QUOTE]

The link didn't show-up at first, so I assumed you were talking about Ken's posts, and if I hadn't noticed the link, I would have had to click agree.

PATS16N0 said:

Classic Revis. So awesome. I can't wait. This is really exciting, but on the other hand, hearing all these reports that our offense is getting dominated is sort of scary. That's been the theme of training camp, no? Hopefully it's just because the D is OP and not because our offense stinks.

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My only concern about the offense being dominated is how it affects the confidence of the young guys and whether that affects their timing when going against lesser D's. If you are constantly being knocked off your route, I'd have to think that affects the way an inexperienced player runs the patterns. Fortunately, TB is not one to be shaken by plays like Revis's INT and Big Vince getting in his face. He'll just work harder at hitting the tight window.

RIP#40 · Aug 1, 2014

patfanken said:
This will probably be my last offering for the next few weeks. The team has their HOF, season ticket holder elitist practice tomorrow (I wasn't invited.....again), and then it will be off to Virginia for a week of work with the Redskins. But for me it was a day of highlights and here are a few observations

BTW- for a midweek practice, the place was packed. Well over 10,000 and a packed bleachers. I mean I have an excuse being retired. I have to wonder if employers know where their employees are.

1. BB let his foot up a bit on the physical intensity today. A lot more team and situational work, so more time for players to be standing around. As a former coach, one of t he things that has always impressed me about BB's practices is how little stand around time players get. They are organized and planned so well. But today with all the team work, players got more of a break.

2.Highlight #1 - Marcus Cannon was once again starting a RG with the first group. This makes hme very happy. The only negative was that for much of the day, our front 7 made the OL miserable. But the D SHOULD be ahead of the offense at this stage of the game. And yes haters, Wendell DID get most first team snaps.

3 Highlight #2 Josh Boyce and Matthew Slater both returned to the practice field. Unfortunately Hooman and Stork remained sidelined (along with Dobson and Easley)

4. IN a team situational period with the offense coming out of the shadow of their own GL, the defense DOMINATED. Revis came off his man to jump a route and picked off Brady cleanly for a pick 6. It should also be noted that the coverage before the pick was excellent as Brady was forced to throw the ball to his 3rd or 4th look in his progression. Revis saw the man breaking open, left his man, and made the pick

5. The defense's reaction to the pick was notable. Wilfolk got right up in Brady's face. The whole defense celebrated, and together they chanted something like "hell no, we won't go" under the crossbars. It could be I was having a flash back to the 60's. Maybe someone who was on the hill could tell us what was actually being chanted. At any rate this defense is playing with a real swagger, and Brady was REALLY pissed

6. The Pats played a lot of 3-4 for the third straight day. Than alignment saw Mayo and Collins in the middle with Hightower coming off the edge as the SLB. I think I'm getting a feel for HIghtower's rush abilities. I'd put it on a par with Ninko's and I'd be very happy if he turns out to be that good a rusher.

I saw one rush where he paired up with Jones to do a crossing stunt with him, good enough to cause a pressure. He also had at least one good rep in coverage on a TE in 7 on 7's

7. The "other safety" carousel was in full swing as Nate Ebner got a lot of first team repws. Also seeing more limited time with first group was Chung and Harmon. And for the record, Ebner looked the part. It was interesting to me that although he's the biggest of the "other safeties" most of the time he wound up with the deep coverage.

8. Highlight #3 - while I was standing in my usual spot by the stairs at the back row, a middle aged couple told me they they had come from Denmark and could I point out Tom Brady to them. I not only pointed him out but gave her my Binoculars (because he was on the far field). They couldn't have been more pleased. I couldn't happier to see them that pleased. Later, I also was able to point out a couple of open seats in the bleachers below us, thus securing my future entry into heaven for this good deed.

9. OT- I sat next to a guy who was a producer over at WEEI. A real nice kid who was just staring out in the business. It was his day off and was there with his father and brother. Of course he was wired into the station so our little section was among to first know about the Lester trade. Ultimately I had to ask a few of the questions we all want to ask about sports media. Here are a few of the answers.

a. D&C are huge douche bags off the air as well as on it. He doesn't know how Dennis still has a job,
b. Dale and Holley are as good guys as you'd think and the best talent on the station.
c. a lot of the controversy between hosts is planned and staged
d. Minnihane is an arrogant jerk in real life and he wonders why he wasn't fired

10, The biggest highlight of my day, however, was meeting the great and powerful ZEUS. It was a pleasure and honor to spend some time and chat with one of the best posters on this board. He is actually smarter in person if you can believe it. If you ever get the pleasure to meet him you won't be disappointed. I look forward to our next meeting down the road.

Great Info. Trying to find out if TE Jones has any talent other than being 6'8". Also, got the impression that you may have ratted out that young producer at EEI.With the info you provided, he will be easily identifiable. He can be a bagger at Market Basket after he gets fired.

Kontradiction · Aug 1, 2014

Zeus said:
I have to say it's just awesome that someone has designated this post as being "Useful."

It is useful. Before my post, did you know that farts could be seen on infrared?

Now tell me that isn't more entertaining than the MLB.

Kontradiction · Aug 1, 2014

AzPatsFan said:
I'm hardly a Wendell apologist but... Let's be fair. He is one tough SOB, better than any of his competitors in down field run blocking, so far. He seems very able to get out and find the LB on pulls and traps, to spring runners both between the tackles and on wide runs. Plus he calls a good line blocking game.

Like in the passing game, he can have troubles moving a big and good DT when even great technique is not enough. It is merely a question of size. He is undersized. If he were 30 lbs heavier, he would be an AllPro Center. But he is not.

Wendell can play and win in this League and frequently does. Thankfully for him there are only so many Wilforks, Harlottis and Suhs (and Knightons) available, and there are not enough to go around around for all the teams. Even Superman had his Kryptonite; and Wendell has these mammoth guys to rag doll him unfortunately.

The hard-nose, tough guy is still someone I'd want on my Team, even if not as a starter.

That's cool that he's tough and can get on a LB quickly, but he can't keep the pocket clean worth a damn and struggles against even average DT's. When your GOAT quarterback is immobile and requires a clean pocket to step up into, that's a recipe for disaster. He was very overrated in 2012 and, in 2013, was thoroughly among the worst centers in the league. That the team appears to be making moves to try to bump him to either a back-up or off the roster altogether is very telling.

Galeb · Aug 1, 2014

KontradictioN said:
It is useful. Before my post, did you know that farts could be seen on infrared?

Now tell me that isn't more entertaining than the MLB.

As nasty as that is, I watched it several times. I want to get an infrared camera now.

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