Will Patrick Chung make the final roster?

Well, someone had damned well and better step up, because Gregory signed with the Chiefs today and that closes off that fallback avenue.

Solid special teamer. I'd be okay if he made the roster.

mgteich said:

The situation is straightforward. We have an backup in Ryan, who can play in situations where a safety might be usually used. We have starters in McCourty and Harmon.

The OPEN question is who will Belichick choose as the special teamers who will be the #3 safety? Also, who will be the emergency #4 or even #5 safety.

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This is not straightforward. Ryan has had VERY limited experience at Safety and there's no proof he'll be a back up safety.

Ryan might actually be the #2 CB on this team. Browner is not the clear cut #2CB, and he's out for the first 4 weeks anyways.

Has Chung drastically improved or something? All of his absolutely horrible plays, blown coverages, etc, far eclipse any good he did while playing here in my memory. I was pretty happy about him getting let go....

PATS16N0 said:

Has Chung drastically improved or something? All of his absolutely horrible plays, blown coverages, etc, far eclipse any good he did while playing here in my memory. I was pretty happy about him getting let go....

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Most people were...

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/chung-an-eagle.1013753/

KontradictioN said:

Most people were...

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/chung-an-eagle.1013753/

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Yeah man, Chung is definitely one of the poster boys in my mind for the cringe worthy secondary we were stuck with for so long that was capable of blowing every lead at any time.

MrNathanDrake said:

This is not straightforward. Ryan has had VERY limited experience at Safety and there's no proof he'll be a back up safety.

Ryan might actually be the #2 CB on this team. Browner is not the clear cut #2CB, and he's out for the first 4 weeks anyways.

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Agreed.

It's a shame that this wasn't improved upon already (from a fan's POV, which doesn't mean I am correct), but there's certainly reason to believe that there will be some growing pains there this season. Then again, maybe Harmon steps up and really looks alright. Only time will tell.

MrNathanDrake said:

...Ryan might actually be the #2 CB on this team. Browner is not the clear cut #2CB, and he's out for the first 4 weeks anyways.

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Browner > Ryan
Dennard > Ryan


If Ryan's the CB2, It's because Dennard's not healthy yet, Browner's on suspension, and the Patriots want to keep Arrington inside.

KontradictioN said:

Most people were...

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/chung-an-eagle.1013753/

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Those damned links sometimes open in a new tab, and sometimes in the same tab. First world problem, I know, but it's still a pain in the ass.

Deus Irae said:

Those damned links sometimes open in a new tab, and sometimes in the same tab. First world problem, I know, but it's still a pain in the ass.

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Right click -> open in new tab = your friend.

Deus Irae said:

Browner > Ryan
Dennard > Ryan


If Ryan's the CB2, It's because Dennard's not healthy yet, Browner's on suspension, and the Patriots want to keep Arrington inside.

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You don't know that. Ryan was a rookie last year. For all we know he could make the 2nd year leap and surpass both of those guys on the depth chart.

Ryan led the Pats in INTs last year and didn't play the entire season.

PATS16N0 said:

Right click -> open in new tab = your friend.

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Not necessary if it opens in a new tab all the time. Only necessary if it doesn't.

MrNathanDrake said:

You don't know that. Ryan was a rookie last year. For all we know he could make the 2nd year leap and surpass both of those guys on the depth chart.

Ryan led the Pats in INTs last year and didn't play the entire season.

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Arrington once had 7 INTs in a season. That must mean he's better than Ryan.

MrNathanDrake said:

You don't know that. Ryan was a rookie last year. For all we know he could make the 2nd year leap and surpass both of those guys on the depth chart.

Ryan led the Pats in INTs last year and didn't play the entire season.

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I think that Ryan could certainly be in the mix to battle with Dennard for starting CB opposite Revis in the first 4 games.

After that, he'll likely be anywhere from CB2 to nickel CB to dime CB, depending upon various factors--injuries obviously included. Either way, I think he'll see more than his 55% of snaps from last year, if you include the postseason.

Could have had this

Strong safety Chris Clemons is the fourth veteran free agent the Texans have signed.

Clemons came to Houston on Thursday, and after visiting with the Texans all day Friday, he signed a two-year contract worth $2.7 million, including $450,000 guaranteed.

Clemons counts $1.15 million against the cap.

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Texans sign safety Clemons to two-year deal - Ultimate Texans


Chose this instead

4/3/2014: Signed a one-year, $1.1 million contract. The deal included a $60,000 signing bonus. 2014: $740,000 (+ $60,000 workout bonus + $240,000 in per-game roster bonuses)

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Pat Chung - New England Patriots | Rotoworld.com


<insert 'bang head against wall' smiley here>

Deus Irae said:

<insert 'bang head against wall' smiley here>

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I just think of Chung like I do Meriweather or Spikes.

Could have been what we were looking for, looked like for a time they might be, ended up not being able to make the transition into the pros.

I dont blame Belichick for the attempts to find his next Rodney Harrison-like enforcer.

Tavon Wilson on the other hand..

Danger Zone said:

I just think of Chung like I do Meriweather or Spikes.

Could have been what we were looking for, looked like for a time they might be, ended up not being able to make the transition into the pros.

I dont blame Belichick for the attempts to find his next Rodney Harrison-like enforcer.

Tavon Wilson on the other hand..

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I'm assuming that the selection of Wilson was due to what Belichick perceived as versatility to play different roles in the secondary with athleticism, although of course that's just my opinion. As crazy as it sounds, I still wouldn't be surprised to see him stick for one more year due to the rather unflattering competition that currently resides at the S2-S3-S4 spots (aside from Harmon, who is still somewhat undetermined).

supafly said:

I'm assuming that the selection of Wilson was due to what Belichick perceived as versatility to play different roles in the secondary with athleticism, although of course that's just my opinion. As crazy as it sounds, I still wouldn't be surprised to see him stick for one more year due to the rather unflattering competition that currently resides at the S2-S3-S4 spots.

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The Wilson comment was more to show that I'm not just being rah rah Belichick.

Unlike Chung, I agree that the door hasn't closed on Wilson.. at least I share that opinion. I just happen to think that Wilson was no Easley.. that is a player Belichick had to take then or lose him to another team. Everything seems to suggest that Wilson would have been there a couple rounds later.

Over-reaching is more a head-banger in my opinion than taking a chance on a talented college player and then having that player not be able to make the transition.

No GM has been able to determine what the formula for that is.

Danger Zone said:

Over-reaching is more a head-banger in my opinion than taking a chance on a talented college player and then having that player not be able to make the transition.

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Yeah, right---the over-reaching aspect is certainly the notable from that WTF type of pick, much more than the inability to successfully make the transition (at least as of yet, anyway). I definitely agree.

PATS16N0 said:

Yeah man, Chung is definitely one of the poster boys in my mind for the cringe worthy secondary we were stuck with for so long that was capable of blowing every lead at any time.

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I remember him getting owned by Blair White (who?) for 2 touchdowns...