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Player interviews discussing the ramped up intensity.
http://www.patriots.com/media-cente...practice/e0b90cb5-c455-4261-bfac-6f603fc1043f

I was trying to listen to Browner's interview, but for some reason I couldn't quite make out what he was trying to say. Can't quite put my finger on why.

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I think we are a better team with Connolly at C and Cannon at RG. More power and size. Unless Wendell overwhelmingly wins the position battle.
I like that combo best myself, although the reports on Halapio have sounded very positive also. Brady getting sacked 40 times last year wasn't just the interior line's fault but it was certainly apparent it was glaring weakness at times.

Gotta keep Tommy upright and clean.
 
Im a big thompkins shipper. I want him on this team, and i want him to excel.

With that said, we need to find out now what hes got, if he cant handle getting roughed up a little by browner, what is he going to do with guys like Talib, and Sherman as potential matchups this coming year.

Get that thick skin now, get used to the taunting and physicality, and during the season he should be able to block that garbage out and just deliver the sauce.
I think it has little to do with thick skin or taunting and everything to do with being able to get off the line vs a jam. Working against Browner may help that, but it is an issue to be concerned a bout with Thompkins.
 
Listened to Browner and KT's post practice interviews. Browner was complimentary of KT and said this is about getting better. It's strictly business.

While KT's came off a little more butthurt. Wouldn't directly compliment Browner, and danced around the questions about him being different size wise compared to most corners. Which he clearly is.

I think KT's skin could def use a little thickening and IMO KT gets off the jam ok using his quickness as Browner said in his interview, but he clearly allowed Browner to rent space in his head.
 
I believe you're talking about KT vs Browner. If so, the next play had Browner slamming KT to the ground which resulted in the O'Shea altercation which Browner later apologized for to O'Shea.

I think this is a good thing on a few levels. On one, it builds team spirit if the team can grow from it and I think they can. Browner was quite complementary of KT afterwards. As many have alluded to it also shows fire from our secondary and forms bonds between players. They should turn this fire against other teams.

Mike Reiss writes:


On another level, KT will never face a more physical CB this year than Browner. So it will make him a better player.

Yeah, KT threw him down and made a TD catch. I believe after that it was more than one play that Browner decked him. If people want to dump on KT for that, they need to come up with some receivers that could avoid getting manhandled by browner, because i can't think of many.

We know of one receiver who tossed him to the dirt and made a TD catch, though...
 
No. Why even reference him at all? Its old news. He is not on the team and is a murderer.

What does he even have to do with training camp?

I didn't reference him at all, it's in my sig. My post is clearly about KT V Browner.
 
Tough crowd, jeez.

Would like to hear more about D.J Williams and Justin Jones going forward. That's a battle that hasn't been reported on as much and may really come into play if Gronk goes down(knock on wood)
 
Listened to Browner and KT's post practice interviews. Browner was complimentary of KT and said this is about getting better. It's strictly business.

While KT's came off a little more butthurt. Wouldn't directly compliment Browner, and danced around the questions about him being different size wise compared to most corners. Which he clearly is.

I think KT's skin could def use a little thickening and IMO KT gets off the jam ok using his quickness as Browner said in his interview, but he clearly allowed Browner to rent space in his head.

I think KT definitely has a bit of a chip on his shoulder in general. Not a bad thing at all, most pathologically competitive guys do for some reason or other. It's definitely an asset in getting from UDFA to standout player.

Browner's always kinda struck me the same way, even. He's just been around a lot longer and is a bit older, probably controls his temper a bit better.
 
"Then, there are Richard Sherman’s SAT scores, from which IQ can be gleaned. Scout.com reports that his first try at the SATs got him a score of 990. That’s hardly a genius-level SAT score. It translates to an IQ of 108.01 to 108.55, which is at the 70th percentile of IQs. Yup, not a genius. Not even close. Just average intelligence. On his second SAT try, Sherman got a combined verbal and math score of 1060, again not very smart, just above average . . . barely. That translates to an IQ of 113.08 to 113.95, which would put him in the 80th percentile of IQs. Would you brag about getting 70s or 80s on a 100 point test? Not unless you like bragging about being average. The liars at FOX News claimed Sherman scored a 1200 on the SATs, which is an absolute lie. The FOX Newsers just made it up. Again, this is par for the course for most of the alleged “facts” upon which FOX News pimps you."

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/69037/superbowl-richard-sherman-myths-no-hes-not-that-smart/

Your sig is an insult to every educated person on this board...FYI
 
Listened to Browner and KT's post practice interviews. Browner was complimentary of KT and said this is about getting better. It's strictly business.

While KT's came off a little more butthurt. Wouldn't directly compliment Browner, and danced around the questions about him being different size wise compared to most corners. Which he clearly is.

I think KT's skin could def use a little thickening and IMO KT gets off the jam ok using his quickness as Browner said in his interview, but he clearly allowed Browner to rent space in his head.

KT was butt hurt because let's be honest, he may have won one battle vs BB, but he def lost the war...but that's nothing to be ashamed of. Browner is a bad man, that beats the hell out of receivers.

Def something to watch in the coming days of TC.
 
Jeff Howe's top 10 from training camp so far:

The Patriots’ first day off of training camp offered the chance to run through four days of notes and decide which players have provided the biggest impact thus far. Keep in mind these practices still are swayed toward offensive success as front-seven defensive players continue to find their groove with the physical element. Here are the top 10 players who have made their presence known through four practices.

1. Tom Brady

Impact: Brady has been at the top of his game with his accuracy. He never lightens up, either, corralling his pass-catchers for extra side sessions during special teams periods and going through the route tree with Rob Gronkowski after a couple of workouts.

Eye-opener: Brady dropped four dimes into his receivers’ hands in the back corner of the end zone on Thursday. Julian Edelman, Kenbrell Thompkins, Danny Amendola and Michael Hoomanawanui were covered tightly, too, but Brady cracked the small window each time.

Skinny: Brady has a great chance to win his third MVP award if Gronkowski plays the majority of the season.

2. Darrelle Revis

Impact: Revis instantly became a force when the Pats donned the pads and started hitting in practice. He is the real deal, and the repaired knee is a distant memory.

Eye-opener: Revis’ Saturday session was the most dominant individual performance of camp, as he intercepted two Brady passes intended for Edelman and broke up two more tosses.

Skinny: If Revis keeps this up, and there’s no reason to think he won’t, the Patriots could have a top-five defense this season.

3. Julian Edelman

Impact: Edelman has been Brady’s go-to guy once again, especially in the two-minute offense. They’re on a different level together.

Eye-opener: Edelman caught three of Brady’s six completions during the hurry-up portion Saturday, including two against Revis.

Skinny: It seems improbable Edelman could catch 100 passes again because of Gronkowski’s return and the young receivers’ development, but Brady looks for him so much that it’s foolish to rule out another huge year.

4. Shane Vereen

Impact: Vereen catches everything out of the backfield, and his timing with Brady on sideline routes appears to be even better. He is an actual check-down weapon.

Eye-opener: Vereen made a leaping catch over linebacker James Anderson in the corner of the end zone.

Skinny: Vereen almost certainly won’t lead the Pats in carries, but he might lead running backs in snaps. With the fortune of good health, he’s a legitimate candidate to catch 70 passes this season.

5. Kenbrell Thompkins

Impact: Thompkins’ consistency really has improved in his second camp. Brady has admitted to developing a great deal of trust in him.

Eye-opener: Thompkins beat Revis on a crossing route in the back of the end zone for a touchdown during Friday’s practice, even overcoming a tug on the jersey.

Skinny: He’s making a hard push to be the No. 1 outside receiver.

6. Chandler Jones

Impact: Jones has been at his best during full-speed one-on-ones. Expect him to ratchet it up next week in joint practices with the Redskins.

Eye-opener: Jones treated Nate Solder like a hologram during a one-on-one battle Sunday.

Skinny: Healthy and in great shape thanks to his offseason training, it’s not unrealistic to think he could approach 15 sacks this season.

7. Jamie Collins

Impact: Collins clearly bulked up this offseason with the intention of playing three downs, and he plays with a nice dose of nastiness.

Eye-opener: He has been unbeatable during one-on-one, semi-tackling drills, including a thumping he put on running back James White on Saturday.

Skinny: Collins was one of the Pats’ best defensive players down the stretch and will be an asset in coverage as well as with opportunistic blitzing. He’s a consensus breakout candidate.

8. Brandon Browner

Impact: Browner casts a shadow over most receivers. He still gets beat his share of times, but the physicality obviously is intriguing.

Eye-opener: Browner knocked White on his rear with the loudest hit of camp Sunday.

Skinny: Browner’s style will suit the defense perfectly once he returns from a four-game suspension.

9. Danny Amendola

Impact: Amendola has been a steady presence in the slot and has made a number of tough catches in tight spots. Healthy again, he looks like a quality slot target.

Eye-opener: Amendola beat Kyle Arrington on a deep post Friday, showing his speed when healthy.

Skinny: Last year at this time, Amendola looked like a legitimate 100-catch receiver. Then he got hurt. Take the good while it lasts, as Amendola’s injury history can’t be ignored.

10. James White

Impact: White has gotten a lot of quality reps with the first team and has shown some nice ability on the ground and in the passing game.

Eye-opener: White caught a pair of passes during Brady’s two-minute march Saturday. Earlier in the session, he split through the front seven on a nice run in 11-on-11s.

Skinny: White is often compared to Vereen, which is fair, but he will challenge Stevan Ridley for carries, too. White is primed for a lot of action as a rookie.

http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2014/07/these_patriots_have_made_early_impact_statements

Good stuff.
 
Great stuff indeed (and I'm thrilled to see Shane Vereen at No. 4 -- let this be the season he puts it all together and makes us forget Wee Danny).
 
Couple of links to get you guys excited for another day of practice...

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-..._/id/4765515/wake-up-call-patriots-camp-day-8
Here are a few storylines we'll be following today:

1. Following up on the Brandon Browner vs. Kenbrell Thompkins matchup following some Wednesday fireworks.

2. Keeping tabs on defensive tackle Tommy Kelly and how his knee responds, as he looked solid in an expanded full-pads workload on Wednesday.

3. If core special teamer Chris White remains out, the chance to get a closer look at others in the backup linebacker competition, such as Steve Beauharnais and Darius Fleming.

4. It might be nice to hear Darrelle Revis' thoughts on Ty Law, who's set to be inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame on Friday.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...d/4765520/patriots-linebackers-having-a-blast

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- With three top draft choices atop the depth chart in Jerod Mayo, Dont'a Hightower and Jamie Collins , the New England Patriots have the potential to field one of their best linebacker groups in Bill Belichick’s 15-year tenure as coach.

Strong play at the linebacker level has been a consistent theme through six training camp practices, with Mayo (first round, 10th overall, 2008) leading things in the middle as players have credited his presence for keeping everyone on the same page.

“It’s been great. He knows the defense better than anybody here,” said Hightower, one of the team’s two first-round picks in 2012. “It’s very important to have communication with all the checks we have. If one guy hesitates or makes the wrong check, that’s one hole in the defense and that can make a big play. I feel like we’ve been doing a pretty good job of communication, but there’s always room for improvement.”

As is often the case in NFL training camps at this time, the Patriots' defense has seemed to have the upper hand in drills. Specific to the linebackers, they have been especially competitive in coverage drills, with Collins (second round, 52nd overall, 2013) a standout.
 
I'm pretty damn excited about this defense.

Yup. This has the potential to be the finest defense the Pats have fielded since 2003 if the following factors take place:

1. Health to key players (Revis, Mayo, Collins, McCourty, Jones).

2. A return to their prior selves regarding players coming back from injury (Wilfork, Kelly, Mayo).

3. Younger/newer pass rushers stepping up and expanding their roles (Buchanon, Smith, Easley).

4. At least a couple of second year players making a leap (Collins, Harmon, Buchanon, Ryan).

They're all very important, but numbers 1 and 3 bare the most importance if this is going to be a top three unit in the league.
 
Yup. This has the potential to be the finest defense the Pats have fielded since 2003 if the following factors take place:

1. Health to key players (Revis, Mayo, Collins, McCourty, Jones).

2. A return to their prior selves regarding players coming back from injury (Wilfork, Kelly, Mayo).

3. Younger/newer pass rushers stepping up and expanding their roles (Buchanon, Smith, Easley).

4. At least a couple of second year players making a leap (Collins, Harmon, Buchanon, Ryan).

They're all very important, but numbers 1 and 3 bare the most importance if this is going to be a top three unit in the league.

I'd agree with all of the above.

And I'd really go as far to just say flat-out the health of Revis is the most important thing. Everything else you cite is important, and I actually feel confident most of them will happen. When you have a player like Brady or Gronk or Revis that is exponentially better than the average player at the position, combined with a roster deep enough to weather the attrition elsewhere, that's how you compete for championships.

The Gronk/Talib injuries are all that's kept us from titles dating back to SB47. So, here's hoping our big 3 stay healthy through February.
 
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