Revis: is he fully recovered?

I was elated by the signing, but I think most of us remember him in his time with the Jets. The question is, can Revis be as effective now post-ACL as he was prior to 2012?

Antdawg said:

I was elated by the signing, but I think most of us remember him in his time with the Jets. The question is, can Revis be as effective now post-ACL as he was prior to 2012?

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Revis played really well in 2013 – 50 tackles, 1 sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, 2 interceptions, 11 pass defenses, 3 run stuffs. He allowed just 400 yards in passing when targeted last year, and a completion 1 out of every 16.4 snaps in coverage. I have no concerns about his health or his ability to perform at his prior level.

Antdawg said:

I was elated by the signing, but I think most of us remember him in his time with the Jets. The question is, can Revis be as effective now post-ACL as he was prior to 2012?

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Virtually everyone fully recovers from those procedures these days. His injury/surgery was 2 years ago. I haven't even seen nor heard the question raised until your post.

I heard that Revis was only targeted like 20 times last year. Considering he had 11 pass defenses and two INTs, that is an incredible stat.

Let me go get the scouting/medical reports from Bill... be right back.

Jackson 2 said:

Virtually everyone fully recovers from those procedures these days. His injury/surgery was 2 years ago. I haven't even seen nor heard the question raised until your post.

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Even Revis himself said he was playing through pain for most of 2013. He was good last season, but not quite as good as pre-ACL seasons.

He was in a rehabbing year and playing in a bad scheme. This year things should be much better for him.

That's why I expect Gronk to have a good but non spectacular season, usually torn ACL's take a full season to be 100%. Let's also see if RG3 get's back to his rookie season level.

Antdawg said:

He was good last season, but not quite as good as pre-ACL seasons.

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Being stuck playing cover 2 when he's the best press-man corner in the league might have something to do with that...

What the Bucs did with Revis last season would be like having Randy Moss and only using him on intermediate crossing patterns.

varjao said:

He was in a rehabbing year and playing in a bad scheme. This year things should be much better for him.

That's why I expect Gronk to have a good but non spectacular season, usually torn ACL's take a full season to be 100%. Let's also see if RG3 get's back to his rookie season level.

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ACL injuries aren't anywhere close to as serious as what they were even 5 years ago, RGIII's problem was more playing in a poor system with even worse coaching.

Look how Peterson came back, even in other sports players are coming back from ACL tears looking just as good as ever.

I think the problem some players have post-ACL is mental, more than physical.

Rob0729 said:

I heard that Revis was only targeted like 20 times last year. Considering he had 11 pass defenses and two INTs, that is an incredible stat.

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Revis was targeted 63 times resulting in 34 catches.

Brady6 said:

Revis was targeted 63 times resulting in 34 catches.

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Must have been a PFF stat then. I thought I heard it on PFW in Progress, but they do get stuff wrong.

Rob0729 said:

Must have been a PFF stat then. I thought I heard it on PFW in Progress, but they do get stuff wrong.

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Revis had a high QB rating against by his standards (81.4) so people thought he played worse than in year past but that rating is influenced a lot by interceptions and he only had 2 last season so it is flawed.

The key stats are that Revis was only targeted 1 out of every 8.8 times he was in coverage, and he allowed a completion just 1 out of every 16.4 snaps he was in coverage. So he shutdown one side of the field most of the time.

not worried one bit..he still had a decent year last year

Antdawg said:

Even Revis himself said he was playing through pain for most of 2013. He was good last season, but not quite as good as pre-ACL seasons.

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Sure, just as Welker and most others are the year after. Virtually everyone is back to normal in year 2. There are 50 things I'm more worried about than that.

Per PFF Talib vs Revis in 2013

Talib
487 Coverage Snaps
596 yds allowed
1.22 yds per coverage snap

Revis
556 Coverage Snaps
400 yds allowed
0.72 yds per coverage snap

Not concerned at all

ripatsfan91 said:

Per PFF Talib vs Revis in 2013

Talib
487 Coverage Snaps
596 yds allowed
1.22 yds per coverage snap

Revis
556 Coverage Snaps
400 yds allowed
0.72 yds per coverage snap

Not concerned at all

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Nice...

If we are worried about Revis' ACL almost 2 seasons after his surgery, what chance to the rest of our ACL brigade have.

patfanken said:

If we are worried about Revis' ACL almost 2 seasons after his surgery, what chance to the rest of our ACL brigade have.

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Medicine has come so far that pretty soon kids will be asking for ACL surgery just like high school baseball players do for Tommy John surgery.

FWIW, I read through a TB Bucs message board shortly after we signed him to get opinions and they all sounded like positive reviews. According to them he wasn't quite himself early on but in the 2nd half of the 2013 season he was back to speed and looked as good as ever. Yeah it's not the most reliable source but I honestly haven't watched him play since he was a Jet.

IMO with a year under his belt he should be even better this year, it takes most guys a season to get back to their usual selves.

Antdawg said:

Even Revis himself said he was playing through pain for most of 2013. He was good last season, but not quite as good as pre-ACL seasons.

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Do you have a link saying he was playing in pain? My guess is not 100%. From what I remember, and surgeries have improved since then, 2nd year recovery was getting the "spring" back. Since he was able to play last year, he should be completely recovered if there aren't complications.

I'm not worried about Revis recovery. He was pretty damn good last year.

I'm more worried about him staying healthy for the entire year. After all the injuries last year, I just hope the team isn't decimated by injuries again and will have the key players healthy for playoff time (Brady, Revis, Gronk, Chandler Jones, Wilfork, etc)