WR $ COST (In Millions)

LOL Miami

Denver and San Fransisco might be up there soon themselves.

Checking their depth chart, they are spending this cash on Cone, Williams, Williams, Binns, Spadola, Wallace, Gibbs, Hartline, Matthews + 4 rookies = 29.89 million??

DarrylS said:

Checking their depth chart, they are spending this cash on Cone, Williams, Williams, Binns, Spadola, Wallace, Gibbs, Hartline, Matthews + 4 rookies = 29.89 million??

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Yep. Wallace is over $17M himself, and Hartline and Gibson are about $10M combined.

Heh...Wallace. Wasn't there an all out "sign him!!!! Patriots are cheap!!!" gagfest of expert posts when his name came up in FA? Grass is always greener syndrome can and does come back to bite you in the azz more often than not.

Joker said:

Heh...Wallace. Wasn't there an all out "sign him!!!! Patriots are cheap!!!" gagfest of expert posts when his name came up in FA? Grass is always greener syndrome can and does come back to bite you in the azz more often than not.

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That's nothing. There were many people who wanted to give up a first round pick to sign him as a restricted free agent a year earlier.

Joker said:

Heh...Wallace. Wasn't there an all out "sign him!!!! Patriots are cheap!!!" gagfest of expert posts when his name came up in FA? Grass is always greener syndrome can and does come back to bite you in the azz more often than not.

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I don't really see the issue here. Wallace would have been the Patriots WR1. He'd probably have done very well in the system.

No issue. It's just 17 million dollars a season is sorta steep for a WR that's putting up 25 yards on 5 catches against the Jets the last game of the season. That just me though. I don't really like the Pats giving 15% of their cap allocation to THAT type of player.

It is not 17 million a season. It is 12 million.
Wallace's cap hits are $3.25m in 2013
$17.25m in 2014
$12.1m in 2015
$13.7m in 2016
$13.7m in 2017

Even though it appears that the Dolphins chose Wallace to have a high cap # in 2014 so as to use cap space, the Dolphins still have over $13.2 million in cap space this year.

I guess this barplot would have been more interesting if it would have been either the average over the last few years or normalized for contract length.. as it is, it is essentially pointless..

Miguel said:

It is not 17 million a season. It is 12 million.
Wallace's cap hits are $3.25m in 2013
$17.25m in 2014
$12.1m in 2015
$13.7m in 2016
$13.7m in 2017

Even though itappears that the Dolphins chose Wallace to have a high cap # in 2014 so as to use cap space the Dolphins still have over $13.2 million in cap space this year.

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luuked said:

I guess this barplot would have been more interesting if it would have been either the average over the last few years or normalized for contract length.. as it is, it is essentially pointless..

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Yeah, that's the problem with looking at stats that reinforce your bias. You tend not to double check. People want to bag on the LOLphins, so they point to a one year outlier as if it's meaningful. I get that the Dolphins overpaid (they had to, in order to bring in free agents to a bad team, after all), but does anyone really think Brady wouldn't have liked to have Wallace on the team last season?

My main issue with Wallace was that I personally did not feel that he'd be worth what the market dictated, and that he had a lot of the opposite kind of traits that we look for in an outsider who is under consideration for an enormous payday like Wallace would surely get.

I think his physical talents and speed are without question, excellent. I just personally never felt as though he was on our radar. As a matter of fact, I'm not really convinced that he'd be on our radar at 75% of that contract. To take it one step further, I'd actually feel pretty strongly about that.

Perhaps it is my bias of reading lots of local articles about him since I live here in Pittsburgh though, as many of those articles spoke of his "me first" attitude and ability to be quite soft. My perspective is that we need more of a physical presence than we do more speed, but some will see it differently.

Is our number inflated slightly by Slater being taken into account for this?

For reference (whatever it's worth), the average of all those numbers is 12.58m, which puts the Patriots right around the average (just slightly higher). That number is skewed somewhat by the Dolphins, but again, it's just for reference.

I agree with others that this means next to nothing. As for the discussion on Wallace, I always felt he was the type of WR who would typically NOT excel in New England's system (seemed to have a limited route tree, relied on speed, etc). It's possible he would have been fine, but at his contract it would have been a tough pill to swallow.

Take a look at the two Super Bowl teams. $19mm and $20mm.
So it's not stupid to allocate a higher share of the cap to receivers.

Other than Green Bay, doesn't look like many of the teams spending under $10mm on receivers (this year) made the playoffs (last year).

Joker said:

Heh...Wallace. Wasn't there an all out "sign him!!!! Patriots are cheap!!!" gagfest of expert posts when his name came up in FA? Grass is always greener syndrome can and does come back to bite you in the azz more often than not.

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There were lots of people who would have liked him on the Pats. I don't think anyone wanted him at the price that the Dolphins paid, and this happens to make that price look even worse than it really is. The contract was structured so that he'd have a cap hit of less than $4M last year, then $17M this year. Just a dumb contract.

Se7eN said:

Is our number inflated slightly by Slater being taken into account for this?

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Yes.

It appears that our numbers consist of the following
Amendola, Danny (4.575m)
Edelman, Julian (2.75m)
Slater, Matt (2,266,668)
Lafell, Brandon (2m)
Dobson, Aaron (779,175)
Boyce, Josh (614,250)
Thompkins, Kenbrell ($833)
Gallon, Jeremy ($11,898)
and their Top 51 hits

Urgent said:

Take a look at the two Super Bowl teams. $19mm and $20mm.
So it's not stupid to allocate a higher share of the cap to receivers.

Other than Green Bay, doesn't look like many of the teams spending under $10mm on receivers (this year) made the playoffs (last year).

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i was honestly surprised by how much the Seahawks Recievers were getting paid, and then i remembered they had traded numerouspicks to the vikings for Harvin and also had signed former viking Rice and gave them big contracts.

That WR money is going to be dropping now that they need to pay their defensive rookies coming off rookie contracts.

Sciz said:

Yep. Wallace is over $17M himself, and Hartline and Gibson are about $10M combined.

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That Wallace signing was just embarrassing.

Deus Irae said:

Yeah, that's the problem with looking at stats that reinforce your bias. You tend not to double check. People want to bag on the LOLphins, so they point to a one year outlier as if it's meaningful. I get that the Dolphins overpaid (they had to, in order to bring in free agents to a bad team, after all), but does anyone really think Brady wouldn't have liked to have Wallace on the team last season?

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Wallace is awful. You seriously think Brady would get along with him? He's a one trick pony who's first impulse is always to throw the QB under the bus.