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After hearing Revis talk so much about the patriot way...I am getting very excited to see him every week...Collins is still #1 for me though
 
The main thing I'll be looking for with Hightower is his weight. I'm pretty much done with him if he shows up to TC at 270 again.
 
easley-if healthy, can he be the most disruptive DL since prime Seymour....its too bad Wright and Pryor didnt work out, cause i liked them as rotational guys a lot

revis- can he be the best DB in the league again

browner- i have no doubt that he can bully guys at the LOS but can he do an adequate job of keeping up with them when they do break free

dobson- can he stay healthy and be the 6-3 4.4 35 inch vert guy that we need him to be
 
The main thing I'll be looking for with Hightower is his weight. I'm pretty much done with him if he shows up to TC at 270 again.

I agree that it could be a make or break year for Hightower in many ways. He seemed to have a pretty decent stretch of games there at the end, IIRC, so hopefully that carries over.

To this point though, he's been a bit of a disappointment as far as where he was selected, etc.
 
There are many guys I'm hoping to have a great season. But I'm excited with Jamie Collins. I think he gets to blitz a lot this year as well as play rush olb while were in the 3-4. Naturally were excited to see what Easley can do. On offense I would like to see Dobson,Boyce,and Thompkins make the jump to light speed but Thompkins excites me the most. I was recently turned onto the idea of signing Jermichael Finley to reboot our 2TE formations. He could even be better than Michael Myers was when teamed with Rob Gronkowski. As good as Finley is, when considering the Brady effect his best football could be in front of him. Rodgers is Great but NOBODY makes Wr's or TE's better quite like Brady does. It wouldn't shock anybody to see Jermichael Finley actually become more dynamic catching passes from Tom Brady. I would expect Finleys YPC to increase significantly as well due to Bradys exclusively great timing and field awareness.
 
thompkins i think so many people are sleeping on him, on all accounts hes here to stay
 
all that play great and excite..Revis anticipation and that dream defense and our skill players
 
The main thing I'll be looking for with Hightower is his weight. I'm pretty much done with him if he shows up to TC at 270 again.

That's fine if he's going to be taking a lot of snaps at DE. Not so much if he's planning on being the Mike. There's only so much you can do as a coach to hide him there.
 
That's fine if he's going to be taking a lot of snaps at DE. Not so much if he's planning on being the Mike. There's only so much you can do as a coach to hide him there.

I came across this old Alen Dumonjic article on Hightower, written at the beginning of training camp in 2012:

What Does Dont'a Hightower's Versatility Bring to the Patriots' Defense? | Alen Dumonjic - Bleacher Report

The article hits on a lot of the issues that are still questions about Hightower:

April's NFL Draft was full of surprises, none which were more surprising than the New England Patriots trading up twice to select two downhill players. One of those players was Dont'a Hightower, a large-sized inside linebacker that has the versatility to play a variety of roles in the front seven. At the University of Alabama, Hightower did just that, playing all over the Crimson Tide's defensive front.

But before I get to his vast alignments, it's important to identify who he is and what type of talent he brings to the Patriots.

Like his teammate Brandon Spikes, Hightower is bigger than your typical inside linebacker. Defenses have moved to shorter and quicker linebackers while the Patriots have continued placing an emphasis on size, which is what they get with the 6'2", 265-pound Hightower.

Moreover, Hightower did several things at Alabama, most notably roaming the middle of the field in the often-discussed 'Cover 1 Robber' concept. This meant that he wasn't assigned an offensive player to cover like his teammates, instead playing zone in the short and intermediate depths and attempting to get his hands on passes by undercutting routes.

When he wasn't playing zone, he was manning tight ends, which he did OK. He didn't stand out in this area because he lacks fluidity, great instincts and overall foot speed, but he wasn't a detriment to the team either because of the way the coverages were played. His pass coverage will be one area that will be interesting to monitor throughout his career to see whether he does well or not.

Hightower did his best work when he was used as a downhill player at Alabama, where he has the play in front of him and is able to read it. He doesn't have issues in this part of his game because he is very strong in his lower body and quick to read and recognize plays. He also possesses the ability to stack and shed blockers.

The full article is well worth reading, but I think Dumonjic hits on a bunch of key points, including:

- Hightower is probably best playing with the play in front of him, and playing "downhill".
- Hightower has good zone coverage ability, and can be used effectively as a robber.
- Hightower has limited range and lateral agility, which limits him in man coverage.
- Hightower's limited range is a question mark as far as playing 4-3 MLB.

It seems to me that Hightower is a guy who you really have to use in ways that play to his strengths, and cover up for his weaknesses. The Pats haven't done as good a job of that as Nick Saban did in college. In particular, when Mayo went down and the Pats asked Hightower to be something that he just didn't have the skills for, he floundered terribly.
 
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I came across this old Alen Dumonjic article on Hightower, written at the beginning of training camp in 2012:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1279132-what-does-donta-hightowers-versatility-bring-to-the-patriots-defense

The article hits on a lot of the issues that are still questions about Hightower:



The full article is well worth reading, but I think Dumonjic hits on a bunch of key points, including:

- Hightower is probably best playing with the play in front of him, and playing "downhill".
- Hightower has good zone coverage ability, and can be used effectively as a robber.
- Hightower has limited range and lateral agility, which limits him in man coverage.
- Hightower's limited range is a question mark as far as playing 4-3 MLB.

It seems to me that Hightower is a guy who you really have to use in ways that play to his strengths, and cover up for his weaknesses. The Pats haven't done as good a job of that as Nick Saban did in college. In particular, Mayo went down and the Pats asked Hightower to be something that he just didn't have the skills for, he floundered terribly.

Agree with this, and thanks for the read. As I said in the draft forum, I've long thought that Hightower was being misused in this defense (granted, last year it was out of pure need). I don't think he's ideal as a LB in today's NFL. I think Hightower would be much better served to keep the extra weight on and move down to DE full time. But that's up to the coaching staff.
 
Agree with this, and thanks for the read. As I said in the draft forum, I've long thought that Hightower was being misused in this defense (granted, last year it was out of pure need). I don't think he's ideal as a LB in today's NFL. I think Hightower would be much better served to keep the extra weight on and move down to DE full time. But that's up to the coaching staff.

I thought Hightower was pretty good in the playoffs and was getting better in the position as the year went along. Off-season, and training camp under his belt I think he will be a much better player. It also will help having Mayo back next to him.

Another point Hightower had nothing in front of him. Kelly and Wilfork both being back will help him big time.
 
I thought Hightower was pretty good in the playoffs and was getting better in the position as the year went along. Off-season, and training camp under his belt I think he will be a much better player. It also will help having Mayo back next to him.

I think people will mistakenly believe that he was playing well in the playoffs because of one play in the divisional round, but he really wasn't. I will say that his coverage on that play was good, but that play was the exception rather than the rule.
 
I thought Hightower was pretty good in the playoffs and was getting better in the position as the year went along. Off-season, and training camp under his belt I think he will be a much better player. It also will help having Mayo back next to him.

Another point Hightower had nothing in front of him. Kelly and Wilfork both being back will help him big time.

I think people will mistakenly believe that he was playing well in the playoffs because of one play in the divisional round, but he really wasn't. I will say that his coverage on that play was good, but that play was the exception rather than the rule.

I think that with Mayo, Anderson and Collins to provide superior range and cover up for some of Hightower's deficiencies that Hightower can be an effective 2-down MLB (especially if he has a better DL in front of him and a better secondary behind him). I also think that he can compete for sub-rushing time. Whether that's enough to justify a long term tenure with the team, and whether he can become more than that, are open questions IMO.
 
Hindsight is always 20/20 but looking back Patriots would have been much better off taking Harrison Smith at #25 and Lavonte David at #48. On the flipside it could have been even worse we could have drafted AJ Jenkins.
 
I think that with Mayo, Anderson and Collins to provide superior range and cover up for some of Hightower's deficiencies that Hightower can be an effective 2-down MLB (especially if he has a better DL in front of him and a better secondary behind him). I also think that he can compete for sub-rushing time. Whether that's enough to justify a long term tenure with the team, and whether he can become more than that, are open questions IMO.

One of the more interesting battles in TC is going to be the edge rushers on 3rd down. I can envision a scenario in which Chandler kicks inside to play next to Easley (or Chris Jones in the early part of the season), leaving two DE positions open for competition. I imagine Ninko has the inside track for the bulk of the snaps at one end, but if the goal is to keep him from playing 95-98% of the snaps again this year, there should be plenty of opportunities for Hightower to get into the mix at DE on 3rd down.

The other options are Smith, who needs to prove his knee is okay, and Buchanan, who needs to prove he can develop into a reliable option. I won't be surprised if we see a heavy rotation between all four. And, of course, injuries may end up making the decision easier.
 
One of the more interesting battles in TC is going to be the edge rushers on 3rd down. I can envision a scenario in which Chandler kicks inside to play next to Easley (or Chris Jones in the early part of the season), leaving two DE positions open for competition. I imagine Ninko has the inside track for the bulk of the snaps at one end, but if the goal is to keep him from playing 95-98% of the snaps again this year, there should be plenty of opportunities for Hightower to get into the mix at DE on 3rd down.

The other options are Smith, who needs to prove his knee is okay, and Buchanan, who needs to prove he can develop into a reliable option. I won't be surprised if we see a heavy rotation between all four. And, of course, injuries may end up making the decision easier.

I think that Smith, Buchanan, Hightower and Jamie Collins are all options as sub rushers. Collins may be the most explosive of the bunch, and Ninkovich isn't a lock. Imagine the following:

- Easley and Chandler Jones inside, with Collins and Hightower/Ninkovich/Smith/Buchanan outside in a "NASCAR" package in 3rd down passing situations
- Mayo and Anderson as the LBs
- Revis, Browner, McCourty, Ryan and one of Dennard/Harmon at DB
 
I think that Smith, Buchanan, Hightower and Jamie Collins are all options as sub rushers. Collins may be the most explosive of the bunch, and Ninkovich isn't a lock. Imagine the following:

- Easley and Chandler Jones inside, with Collins and Hightower/Ninkovich/Smith/Buchanan outside in a "NASCAR" package in 3rd down passing situations
- Mayo and Anderson as the LBs
- Revis, Browner, McCourty, Ryan and one of Dennard/Harmon at DB

While part of me likes the idea of Collins as a hand-in-the-dirt rusher, I think the best thing we can do with him is have him standing up, in a position to cover a TE. Then he can blitz or drop back to cover, and the offense has to try to guess which. He potentially gives us an element of surprise that wouldn't be there if he's on the line. Certain packages and matchups though, I can definitely see what you're saying.
 
While part of me likes the idea of Collins as a hand-in-the-dirt rusher, I think the best thing we can do with him is have him standing up, in a position to cover a TE. Then he can blitz or drop back to cover, and the offense has to try to guess which. He potentially gives us an element of surprise that wouldn't be there if he's on the line. Certain packages and matchups though, I can definitely see what you're saying.
I agree, I think Collins is going to be doing a lot more covering TEs man-to-man on 3rd downs like he did towards the end of last year. Rather than rushing as a DE.
 
I agree, I think Collins is going to be doing a lot more covering TEs man-to-man on 3rd downs like he did towards the end of last year. Rather than rushing as a DE.

And the best part of that is that he can do that while lining up in a position where a blitz is possible on any given play. And with two other linebackers that are coverage capable (Anderson and Mayo, to at least a competent extent), they can shade someone over there to cover that TE once Collins rushes.
 
I agree, I think Collins is going to be doing a lot more covering TEs man-to-man on 3rd downs like he did towards the end of last year. Rather than rushing as a DE.

And the best part of that is that he can do that while lining up in a position where a blitz is possible on any given play. And with two other linebackers that are coverage capable (Anderson and Mayo, to at least a competent extent), they can shade someone over there to cover that TE once Collins rushes.

I expect Collins will be doing a lot of that. But I could also envision him being used in a Von Miller kind of way, as a SAM in the base defense and as a pass rusher in sub packages. The fun thing with Collins is that there are so many ways to use him effectively, and I expect over time we'll see most if not all of them.
 
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