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Properly gutted about Luis. Backed him and backed him and backed him, but can't do it any more. The club should sell.
I love Suarez as a player, such an explosive scorer. But this continual biting has gone too far.
 
The diving is absolutely ridiculous in this sport and makes the soccer player doing it look like a gigantic ****y.
No different from WR getting a litle bump and looking for a flag.
 
Suarez leaned into him and bit him. The bite was real, the dive was terrible and made both of them look like wimpy little nancyboys (and that's the kind way of putting it). If someone on that field wants Suarez to stop biting (I guess he's a punk from what I'm reading on here), why can't they get a bench warmer to either punch him in the face and break his jaw or take an actual man-sized dive at his knee and tear his ACL/break his leg? Would that guy automatically be banned from FIFA or is something like that considered horrible sportsmanship?

The first part is a good way of putting it. The second part; I think a punch in the face would draw less penalty than the dive at the knee, but either is a red-card and could only be done with the game in hand. Suarez is a punk, though, and I don't think anyone would cry if that happened.
 
No different from WR getting a litle bump and looking for a flag.

At least the WR doesn't immediately hit the turf and start grabbing at his knee, shin, foot, vagina, head, face like it just got shattered into a million pieces though. The flopping is an absolute travesty in this sport and really slows it down. Again, I thought it was bad in basketball but that's nothing compared to soccer. Still, though, I've been watching it when I can. But it's episodes like that which ensure that I won't be watching it when the U.S. is eliminated (whenever that may happen).
 
At least the WR doesn't immediately hit the turf and start grabbing at his knee, shin, foot, vagina, head, face like it just got shattered into a million pieces though. The flopping is an absolute travesty in this sport and really slows it down. Again, I thought it was bad in basketball but that's nothing compared to soccer. Still, though, I've been watching it when I can. But it's episodes like that which ensure that I won't be watching it when the U.S. is eliminated (whenever that may happen).
And in comparison to Rugby players football players act like ****ies. So are you going to start *****ing about that next and start watching rugby instead?
 
Most people don't like the flopping but it's generally just acting to get a foul called. It doesn't make them soft. Soccer is actually a fairly physical game, just no stupid stuff (that's legal) like punching in hockey.
 
No diving allowed? Willie McGinest says hello. Every sport has gamesmanship like that. In soccer it's over the top sometimes, but the refs simply have to give yellow cards for dives.

On the other hand, everyone was screaming this was a dive following the game yesterday, and the videos now show that clearly it wasn't:

 
Then don't watch it. It amazes me that so many American sports fans are so insecure that they have to go out of their way to take shots at it. This thread is supposed to be a discussion of the ongoing World Cup and not a place for overly insecure Americans to take their tiny little dumps. Don't like soccer then don't watch it, your input in this thread really isn't needed.

I don't like the Red Sox but I am not going to spend my time in the Red Sox forum dumping on them because it would be stupid and petty, which is what those using this thread to crap on soccer are.

I have seen stupidity and truly outrageous things happen in every team sport and acting like it is unique to soccer is idiotic.

I'm supporting the US in the world cup, but why can't i point out how they can make the game better. In the NFL we are constantly adapting the rules to make the game more exciting.
 
And in comparison to Rugby players football players act like ****ies. So are you going to start *****ing about that next and start watching rugby instead?

I actually like watching rugby. I've also played it in college. That's why you don't see me calling them or hockey players ****ies even though they flop too. So I don't think you could have chosen a more piss poor example if you tried.
 
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This was from last year. Suarez was gonna have a taste of Chiellini sooner or later :)

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Properly gutted about Luis. Backed him and backed him and backed him, but can't do it any more. The club should sell.

I root for Barcelona but that is only because I am a big time fan of Messi and have been following him since I saw him play a U-20 match against the US and Adu, and although he only played the second half of that game it was obvious who the true superstar was. If Barca follows through and makes the deal for Suarez I will stop rooting for them. Beyond that the idea of Messi, Suarez, and Neymar on the same team is the same kind of overkill that led me to stop rooting for the Yankees when I had been a Yankees fan my entire life in Red Sox country, when they signed A-Rod I said goodbye for good. I don't like teams that buy championships, which was always one of the big reasons I love football, because you can't really do that.
 
Yeah, the diving is (in some countries and cultures) really bad. But so are the small, chippy fouls.

If you watch Uruguay (and, God knows, I wouldn't want to) you can see that they are diving in in their tackling and going through the man, if necessary. I dare say the Italians were doing just the same. A violent foul like the one at the end of the Uruguay-Costa Rica game which got the guy sent off or the one at the end of Croatia-Chile are really clear and obvious to anyone who knows the game. But the line here between dangerous, dirty play and mere "mistiming" is very hard to draw. The referee of the Uruguay-England game didn't even bother trying.

Say what you like about Goodell, but the NFL has a collective structure and they try to make the game as attractive as possible for sponsors, TV networks and fans (probably in that order). There isn't any similar structure for international soccer. FIFA is worse than useless. So refereeing standards and cultures vary wildly.

But not all of the rolling around is simulation. The players wear shin pads and those are pretty effective. But the rest of the foot is exposed (and the side and rear calf) and impact injuries there (as anyone who has played the game can tell you) are extremely painful. In contrast to football, where a player will go off, miss a play and then come back, the soccer players are out there on the field. Again, drawing the line is very difficult.
 
The thing is, some of it is blatantly obvious. And they do nothing. A good example? The dutch player in the first game pretending he got elbowed in the eye instead the side of his cheek. Clearly his cheek wasn't hurting. That should have been a permanent ban right there. I believe that dutch player got his karma though, as in the next game he got taken off in a stretcher.

The Dutch are a filthy squad, the boot to the chest in the last WC final with Spain was as dirty a foul as they get and all he got was a yellow for it when he should have been thrown out of the final, which is radical but was called for.
 
Yeah, the diving is (in some countries and cultures) really bad. But so are the small, chippy fouls.

If you watch Uruguay (and, God knows, I wouldn't want to) you can see that they are diving in in their tackling and going through the man, if necessary. I dare say the Italians were doing just the same. A violent foul like the one at the end of the Uruguay-Costa Rica game which got the guy sent off or the one at the end of Croatia-Chile are really clear and obvious to anyone who knows the game. But the line here between dangerous, dirty play and mere "mistiming" is very hard to draw. The referee of the Uruguay-England game didn't even bother trying.

Say what you like about Goodell, but the NFL has a collective structure and they try to make the game as attractive as possible for sponsors, TV networks and fans (probably in that order). There isn't any similar structure for international soccer. FIFA is worse than useless. So refereeing standards and cultures vary wildly.

But not all of the rolling around is simulation. The players wear shin pads and those are pretty effective. But the rest of the foot is exposed (and the side and rear calf) and impact injuries there (as anyone who has played the game can tell you) are extremely painful. In contrast to football, where a player will go off, miss a play and then come back, the soccer players are out there on the field. Again, drawing the line is very difficult.

Right on the money, and football players stay down all the time but it goes unnoticed because play is already stopped naturally.
 
Suarez leaned into him and bit him. The bite was real, the dive was terrible and made both of them look like wimpy little nancyboys (and that's the kind way of putting it). If someone on that field wants Suarez to stop biting (I guess he's a punk from what I'm reading on here), why can't they get a bench warmer to either punch him in the face and break his jaw or take an actual man-sized dive at his knee and tear his ACL/break his leg? Would that guy automatically be banned from FIFA or is something like that considered horrible sportsmanship?

I actually wondered how Chiellini maintained enough self discipline to not punch Suatez in the face , if someone bit me I would not stop until I was dragged off or knocked every one of his teeth out. Had it been Balotelli it would have turned into a bench clearing brawl and Suarez would have been a bloody mess, which is what he deserved. POS.
 
On a brighter note Messi is unreal. My favorite player of all time . The US is the only team that I will root for against Argentina.
 
Messi. Ye Gads. Again.

Fourth goal of the tournament and he's single handedly dragging the Argies through the group.
 
Messi. Ye Gads. Again.

Fourth goal of the tournament and he's single handedly dragging the Argies through the group.

Yep, Argentinas defense is awful and will ultimately be their downfall but Messi is carrying them.

And they just gave up another easy goal.

It sucks that Argentina's coaching and defense is so bad, a WC title would give Messi his proper place in history.
 
Great match between Nigeria and Argentina. Messi is just terrific.
 
What a game this is. Rojo turns one in off his knee and the Argies lead again. 3-2.
 


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