World Cup Thread.

there really is no comparison here. two absolutely different games that both share the name football.

That's it.

BelichickFan said:

First, what I quoted is simply untrue.

Second, how about those who don't like soccer, put the thread on Ignore and let those of us who have interest read it without every other post being "soccer sucks".

Thanks.

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OK then, tell me how it's legal for a kickball player to use his hands and arms in contact with the ball on the field of play (goal keepers and throwing the ball inbounds not included).

Soccer can be boring to watch, but so much fun to play.

U.S. is going to do well is World Cup, despite all the naysayers out there.

I love American Football but it's a stupid name. Why, exactly, is it called Football ?

Speaking of which, where is "Touchdown" from ? I suspect it's from Rugby in which a "Try" is scored by Touching the Ball Down on the ground in their version of the end zone. There is no Touching Down of anything with a Touchdown.

Nothing against American Football but . . . .

Tunescribe said:

OK then, tell me how it's legal for a kickball player to use his hands and arms in contact with the ball on the field of play (goal keepers and throwing the ball inbounds not included).

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First, quit being an ass and calling it by the wrong name.

Second you referenced : "entire upper body" which I take to be the waist up. The chest is frequently used to control a pass that comes at you in the air and at the professional level the head is used a lot.

BelichickFan said:

So for the U.S., obviously we need to beat Ghana but in the earlier game I guess we want Germany to win (by as large a margin as possible), with a tie the next best option and a Portugal win the least desired.

Any disenters on that ?

(thinking behind it is, as good as Portugal is, the U.S. has a better chance to tie or beat them than they do vs. Germany).

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I'd say that this is a good prediction. Germany is a clear-cut favorite, but the other spot is up for grabs. Portugal is better than both Ghana and the US, but honestly, they are very Cristiano-dependent, so it won't be a huge surprise to see them losing to any team

Enjoy watching granddaughters play soccer. World Cup? Even more boring than MLB.

TommyBrady12 said:

Soccer can be boring to watch, but so much fun to play.

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There is a lot of screwing around in the middle of the field but with so many scoring opportunities (most of which miss or are saved) and with so few goals scored it is actually very exciting if you have a team to root for.

patsinthesnow said:

Another thing I don't understand about soccer: Woodhead would be one of the 3 biggest players on the U.S team and probably the strongest. A question to soccer fans here from an ignorant gridiron football fan, does strength even matter in soccer? Because I see some players listed at 6' 150 lbs..

These players would get absolutely destroyed on a football field. Also, what would happen if you put Revis in soccer cleats covering Ronaldo?

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That's exactly what makes football popular. ANYONE can play. There has been players from all sorts of sizes. Messi is 5.6 and is amazing. Cristiano Ronaldo is 6.1 and is also amazing, both playing in a fairly similar position. The diversity is incredible.

PatsWickedPissah said:

Enjoy watching granddaughters play soccer. World Cup? Even more boring than MLB.

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Soccer's a great way for kids and young teens to get/stay in shape. It's especially good for kids who aren't really coordinated enough, big enough or strong enough to play more advanced sports. Like kickball, tag, hide-and-seek and other child games, most Americans grow out of it and move on to adult sports.

BelichickFan said:

First, quit being an ass and calling it by the wrong name.

Second you referenced : "entire upper body" which I take to be the waist up. The chest is frequently used to control a pass that comes at you in the air and at the professional level the head is used a lot.

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So, double-amputees would have no problem succeeding at kickball, right?

Deus Irae said:

It's especially good for kids who aren't really coordinated enough, big enough or strong enough to play more advanced sports.

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Don't really care to wade too far into the predictable pro/anti soccer pissing match, but I can't really fathom how this is at all accurate.

JackBauer said:

Don't really care to wade too far into the predictable pro/anti soccer pissing match, but I can't really fathom how this is at all accurate.

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You've never watched youth soccer?

Deus Irae said:

You've never watched youth soccer?

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You've never watched youth soccer played properly?

Deus Irae said:

You've never watched youth soccer?

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I played myself in high school, but being that I don't have kids I'd never voluntarily watch youth anything.

This thread is going to be fun lol

JackBauer said:

I played myself in high school, but being that I don't have kids I'd never voluntarily watch youth anything.

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Then you should probably have stayed out of this, as nothing I posted should have been problematic for anyone. Youth soccer is a great way for the kids who are less coordinated, smaller and weaker to get/stay in shape. In fact, you see those sorts of kids on the field all the time.

Soccer is also a sport that most people in the U.S. stop playing and following when they grow up, as they move on to the traditional American adult sports of football, basketball, hockey and soccer. In the U.S., soccer basically is a child's game, whether you like it or not.

resdubwhite said:

You've never watched youth soccer played properly?

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I watched it. I played it. I excelled at it. My post was spot on, and it wasn't an attack at soccer. It's sad that the soccer babies can't handle honest discussion of their game.

BelichickFan said:

I love American Football but it's a stupid name. Why, exactly, is it called Football ?

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Not read every reply so I don't know if it has been answered but:

Soccer is Association Football, Rugby spawned from that and then branched out:
Rugby Football Union
Rugby Football League
American Football
Australian Rules Football

etc etc

Only 1 of the sports is actual "foot" ball (Aussie rules & Union has a lot of kicking but the primary method of carrying the ball is via the hands) but they started out as the same thing and diversified over time into 4 very different sports.

Deus Irae said:

Then you should probably have stayed out of this, as nothing I posted should have been problematic for anyone. Youth soccer is a great way for the kids who are less coordinated, smaller and weaker to get/stay in shape. In fact, you see those sorts of kids on the field all the time.

Soccer is also a sport that most people in the U.S. stop playing and following when they grow up, as they move on to the traditional American adult sports of football, basketball, hockey and soccer. In the U.S., soccer basically is a child's game, whether you like it or not.

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I was responding to your "especially good for" line, which you repeated again above and which IMHO is completely untrue.

Maybe "soccer babies" wouldn't object to your "honest discussion" if your discussion were actually honest and something more than calling soccer training wheels for big boy sports.