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I was at Gillette last night for Caserio's recap of the draft. Very interesting discussion. Easley was there - it's not hard to see what they like about the guy, both on tape and in hearing him talk. Calm, measured, clearly intelligent, ready to be a pro and act like a pro. I loved the pick before - he was the guy I was hoping for in round 1, and now I feel even better about it.

He brings an interior disruptive force to that DL that I haven't seen here in a long time, and I won't add the caveat "if he can stay healthy," because that's a caveat for every player in the NFL. Easley tore both his ACL's - last time I looked, you only have two, and the BtB repairs are phenomenal and unlikely to ever have an issue again.

The pick I was most edgy about was Garopollo, but after hearing Cassario, I get why they did it (still not sure I like it, but I get it). They brought him in and ran him through the wringer - hit him with everything mentally and physically to see what he could absorb, how he could adapt, etc. At the end, everyone involved was impressed by his smarts, his willingness to learn and work hard, and his toughness. He clearly really impressed all of them with his ability to "get it" and work his butt off.

I don't know that he'll ever play a down for the Pats - a huge part of me hopes not, at least not on his rookie deal. So the way I look at it, they swapped #62 for the insurance they need to save 3-4 million on the cap each year for the next 4 years. Their measure of Garopollo, clearly, was that he could quickly come up to speed and be ready to run THEIR offense in short order.

Like everyone else here, I thought that all along, but the reason I'm more okay with it now is because I get the feeling they got the center they wanted anyway in Brian Stork (he was the one I wanted, too). I read a rumor the other day on this board, quoting Reiss, I think, that the Pats had Stork ahead of Martin. Could very well be. Casario seemed very pleased with the additions they made to the OL (loves Fleming - says the guy is absolutely brilliant), and couldn't say enough good things about Halapio's toughness. He played pretty seriously hurt (pectoral) all year. Halapio and Easley were teammates, and Easley was glad to have him here.

It was clear that White was picked because he can do everything well...sounds like a perfect #3 for this team, particularly since he's a very good pass blocker, too. Protects the ball, protects the QB, can run any play in their book - a BB kind of guy.

Zach Moore was drafted because of his physical talent, obviously. He sounds like a project since he came from much weaker competition, but his raw physical abilities line up right next to players who were drafted many rounds earlier. He's built like Chandler Jones, with those way-too-long arms.

Jamea Thomas...smart, versatile, can play anywhere in the DB. Likely will be competing with Tayvon and Chung as a back-up safety.

Gallon, small but explosive and very productive. I liked the tape on him a lot. He plays "bigger" than he is. I don't know that there'll be room for him, but we'll see.

He got into the UDFA, but only briefly.

To summarize: the Pats seemed methodical this year. It seems clear to me that they liked what they had entering the season and had a few boxes to check off in the draft, and so they did exactly that.

Hard to argue.
 
You mean to tell me this clueless dummy actually liked the players they picked? What a dumbass.

I hope you walked up to him, spit in his face and said 'patsfans.com, *****, maybe you'll learn something.' and then walked off to the cheers and fedora tips of respect from the assembled fans.
 
I was at Gillette last night for Caserio's recap of the draft. Very interesting discussion. Easley was there - it's not hard to see what they like about the guy, both on tape and in hearing him talk. Calm, measured, clearly intelligent, ready to be a pro and act like a pro. I loved the pick before - he was the guy I was hoping for in round 1, and now I feel even better about it.

He brings an interior disruptive force to that DL that I haven't seen here in a long time, and I won't add the caveat "if he can stay healthy," because that's a caveat for every player in the NFL. Easley tore both his ACL's - last time I looked, you only have two, and the BtB repairs are phenomenal and unlikely to ever have an issue again.

The pick I was most edgy about was Garopollo, but after hearing Cassario, I get why they did it (still not sure I like it, but I get it). They brought him in and ran him through the wringer - hit him with everything mentally and physically to see what he could absorb, how he could adapt, etc. At the end, everyone involved was impressed by his smarts, his willingness to learn and work hard, and his toughness. He clearly really impressed all of them with his ability to "get it" and work his butt off.

I don't know that he'll ever play a down for the Pats - a huge part of me hopes not, at least not on his rookie deal. So the way I look at it, they swapped #62 for the insurance they need to save 3-4 million on the cap each year for the next 4 years. Their measure of Garopollo, clearly, was that he could quickly come up to speed and be ready to run THEIR offense in short order.

Like everyone else here, I thought that all along, but the reason I'm more okay with it now is because I get the feeling they got the center they wanted anyway in Brian Stork (he was the one I wanted, too). I read a rumor the other day on this board, quoting Reiss, I think, that the Pats had Stork ahead of Martin. Could very well be. Casario seemed very pleased with the additions they made to the OL (loves Fleming - says the guy is absolutely brilliant), and couldn't say enough good things about Halapio's toughness. He played pretty seriously hurt (pectoral) all year. Halapio and Easley were teammates, and Easley was glad to have him here.

It was clear that White was picked because he can do everything well...sounds like a perfect #3 for this team, particularly since he's a very good pass blocker, too. Protects the ball, protects the QB, can run any play in their book - a BB kind of guy.

Zach Moore was drafted because of his physical talent, obviously. He sounds like a project since he came from much weaker competition, but his raw physical abilities line up right next to players who were drafted many rounds earlier. He's built like Chandler Jones, with those way-too-long arms.

Jamea Thomas...smart, versatile, can play anywhere in the DB. Likely will be competing with Tayvon and Chung as a back-up safety.

Gallon, small but explosive and very productive. I liked the tape on him a lot. He plays "bigger" than he is. I don't know that there'll be room for him, but we'll see.

He got into the UDFA, but only briefly.

To summarize: the Pats seemed methodical this year. It seems clear to me that they liked what they had entering the season and had a few boxes to check off in the draft, and so they did exactly that.

Hard to argue.
Thanks for the info. A video of this does not appear to be on the Patriots home page. Was this taped? If not, is there a transcript somewhere.
 
You mean to tell me this clueless dummy actually liked the players they picked? What a dumbass.

I hope you walked up to him, spit in his face and said 'patsfans.com, *****, maybe you'll learn something.' and then walked off to the cheers and fedora tips of respect from the assembled fans.
Hell hath no fury... You're just mad about the restraining order. ;)
 
Thanks for the info. A video of this does not appear to be on the Patriots home page. Was this taped? If not, is there a transcript somewhere.

I don't know, honestly - first time I've been to one of these (with a friend who has club seats).
 
Thanks for the info. A video of this does not appear to be on the Patriots home page. Was this taped? If not, is there a transcript somewhere.

Ditto.

smooth read of the recap.

I think the draft will be viewed much more successfully down the line, IF HALF THE RD 5 AND LOWER PICKS DONT start the year on PUP. If all these OL and Easley are still nursing injuries and BB does his usual - go to the shelf and come back next year.... then we'll be listening to the backseat drivers ALL SEASON LONG telling us how we should have gotten so and so.
 
Good summary, and while i still have some reservations about Easely because of the ACL's if he is healthy and stays that way he gives them a player they never would have had a shot at had he not suffered the injury, and he also gives them some position flexibility that helps them address two needs, which makes him that much more useful. I think interior DL is Easely's natural position but his agility and ability to get after the QB will lead them to also use him as part of the DE rotation allowing both Ninkovich and Jones to take e snaps off while not losing any pass rush.

Garrapolo was WTF pick at the time but I get why they did it. It's hard to see them taking a QB that high when they have other pressing needs but if they really believe in him and it saves them 4 million or so a year on the cap then it makes more sense than we would like to acknowledge. As I said in another thread i think the high pick and Belichick's comments are going to drive Brady even harder and we will see him at his best for at least a couple more seasons.


I still question the fleming pick and think it was their worst. I don't want big lumbering OLand I was hoping whomever they drafted as an OT would have OG capabilities and imo Fleming is not suited for that. If he is smart enough to make his feet move much quicker then he may pan out, we'll see?

I like the Stork and Halapio picks and think they are the key to this draft. If both win their jobs and significantly upgrade the interior OL then this draft helps them immediately and makes their offense that much better as it will allow them to both run against bigger DL's and protect Brady better than they have in recent seasons on the inside.

Moore is a major project from what I can tell but if he can get to PS and stick for a season he may have a future because he has all the intangibles and could make the most of the coaching and the chance.

Gallon is another in their ongoing class of slot receivers as they continue to hunt for the next low cost Welker.

Love the Thomas pick and see him winning one of the last roster spots and knocking T. Wilson off of the roster.
 
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Ditto.

smooth read of the recap.

I think the draft will be viewed much more successfully down the line, IF HALF THE RD 5 AND LOWER PICKS DONT start the year on PUP. If all these OL and Easley are still nursing injuries and BB does his usual - go to the shelf and come back next year.... then we'll be listening to the backseat drivers ALL SEASON LONG telling us how we should have gotten so and so.

... and you didn't expect that anyway? If the Pats don't win it all, and go undefeated in the regular season, patsfans.com haters will flaunt their expert opinions and clairvoyant predictions ad nauseam for all to pay homage to .
 
Gallon returns punts. He has a good shot at making the team.
 
I think Gallon was one of the best picks, and one of the smartest picks. Though we have Edelman and Amendola in the slot, they are both injury prone. This guy could be our next Deion Branch (wearing the same number too). Very short (5'7" or 5'8"), but not small, good YAC, and explosive 40" vertical, so he can battle for some throws that most 5'7" or 5'8" recivers can't. Had an incredibly productive year as well with 89 catches, for 1,373 yards and 9 tds. Overall in his career had 173 catches for 2,704 yards 17 TDs. Also, 15.6 ypc for his career. So this guy is no slouch, an excellent 7th round pick with excellent receiving skills. Not loving this draft completely, I think they missed out on some important value early on. Seems, sometimes BB the GM does better in rounds 4-7 and udfa than he does in rounds 1-3.
 
Thanks for the great info.. Looking forward to the Camp Battles.
 
I think Gallon was one of the best picks, and one of the smartest picks. Though we have Edelman and Amendola in the slot, they are both injury prone. This guy could be our next Deion Branch (wearing the same number too). Very short (5'7" or 5'8"), but not small, good YAC, and explosive 40" vertical, so he can battle for some throws that most 5'7" or 5'8" recivers can't. Had an incredibly productive year as well with 89 catches, for 1,373 yards and 9 tds. Overall in his career had 173 catches for 2,704 yards 17 TDs. Also, 15.6 ypc for his career. So this guy is no slouch, an excellent 7th round pick with excellent receiving skills. Not loving this draft completely, I think they missed out on some important value early on. Seems, sometimes BB the GM does better in rounds 4-7 and udfa than he does in rounds 1-3.

I agree with you about your observation, But did you ever ask yourself 'Why?' BB is almost obliged to gamble so heavily in 2 and 3?

As long as the Pats win, he will always be picking at the tail end of the rounds in the draft. To make up for that imposed handicap, BB needs to find the unexpected but highly talented players to make things even over the long term, or the team will eventually decline from lack of talent.

Hence he gambles in 2 and 3 more often, trying to turn recognized highly talented players, but with some deficit to drop them that low, into productive Pro-bowl capable players,

He has Hits and Misses, doing this. His hits are Home runs and he whiffs completely on others, To the delight or Borges and the would be Draftniks haters here,

But the results can't be judged badly . Never a losing season in 12 tries. 5 Super Bowl appearances, and many post season appearances. So the Home Runs outnumber the Strikeouts.
 
Agree on Fleming. He can't move. Totally immobile tackles just won't work in the NFL. Supposedly his vertical jump is near 0. He literally can't lift both feet off the ground at once.

I'm exaggerating a little bit for effect, but I thought that was a question mark. I would have taken CJ Fiedorowicz in the 2nd and then Garrapolo in the 3rd and Stork in the 4th. CJ would be good here, great blocker, great hands, not as fast as gronkowski-burger, but good nonetheless.
 
Garrapolo wouldn't have been around in the 3rd and Im not totally positive CJ isn't a 3rd TE at best for us (wouldn't beat out hooman).
 
Agree on Fleming. He can't move. Totally immobile tackles just won't work in the NFL. Supposedly his vertical jump is near 0. He literally can't lift both feet off the ground at once.

I'm exaggerating a little bit for effect, but I thought that was a question mark. I would have taken CJ Fiedorowicz in the 2nd and then Garrapolo in the 3rd and Stork in the 4th. CJ would be good here, great blocker, great hands, not as fast as gronkowski-burger, but good nonetheless.


You didn't say just about as fast a Hoomanwanui, but it's close. We already have one Hoomanawanui. Why do you want two? Hooman is a great blocker too, and has good hands too. He is just too slow to get open very often, just like CJ is going to be.

Garrapolo would not have lasted until #93... You notice that they had to move down and then up and position to get Stork. He wouldn't have lasted till 130 either, in all likely hood.
 
Agree on Fleming. He can't move. Totally immobile tackles just won't work in the NFL. Supposedly his vertical jump is near 0. He literally can't lift both feet off the ground at once.

I'm exaggerating a little bit for effect, but I thought that was a question mark. I would have taken CJ Fiedorowicz in the 2nd and then Garrapolo in the 3rd and Stork in the 4th. CJ would be good here, great blocker, great hands, not as fast as gronkowski-burger, but good nonetheless.
Agree on Fleming. He can't move. Totally immobile tackles just won't work in the NFL. Supposedly his vertical jump is near 0. He literally can't lift both feet off the ground at once.

I'm exaggerating a little bit for effect, but I thought that was a question mark. I would have taken CJ Fiedorowicz in the 2nd and then Garrapolo in the 3rd and Stork in the 4th. CJ would be good here, great blocker, great hands, not as fast as gronkowski-burger, but good nonetheless.

Not sure how you know Garrapolo would have been in there in the third and Stork would have been there at 130 in the fourth? Please expound on how you would have done that ?
 
Well, I didn't think the General Manager of a team who just drafted all these players was going to talk them down now did I? :p
 
Agree on Fleming. He can't move. Totally immobile tackles just won't work in the NFL. Supposedly his vertical jump is near 0. He literally can't lift both feet off the ground at once.

I'm exaggerating a little bit for effect, but I thought that was a question mark. I would have taken CJ Fiedorowicz in the 2nd and then Garrapolo in the 3rd and Stork in the 4th. CJ would be good here, great blocker, great hands, not as fast as gronkowski-burger, but good nonetheless.

He is a physically fit and even smarter version of Morgan Moses (UVA) who was projected by some to go in the first round but slid to the Redskins all the way in the third. It seems like Fleming is a comparable talent in terms of combine statistics who was available much later. To play at that level of football while majoring in rocket science at Stanford says a lot about his character and discipline. Fleming could work part time at one of the Route 128 defense contractors still in existence or work on his PhD. at Harvard or MIT while playing professional football. Maybe he will be a bust but in many ways Fleming was their most interesting draft pick.
 
He is a physically fit and even smarter version of Morgan Moses (UVA) who was projected by some to go in the first round but slid to the Redskins all the way in the third. It seems like Fleming is a comparable talent in terms of combine statistics who was available much later. To play at that level of football while majoring in rocket science at Stanford says a lot about his character and discipline. Fleming could work part time at one of the Route 128 defense contractors still in existence or work on his PhD. at Harvard or MIT while playing professional football. Maybe he will be a bust but in many ways Fleming was their most interesting draft pick.
He's going to work with Patricia to put the SpyGate Satellite in orbit :D:D:D
 
Who knows how these players will turn out, but to hate on a pick now is stupid. Lets see them play then go from there. I like the focus on the trenches and look forward to seeing Easley next to Armstead and Jones on the pass rush.
 
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