What is Tom's future?

sb1 · May 12, 2014

As I said before there is precedent for an all time great QB to change teams. So it's not like it's unthinkable for the face of the franchise to be traded to another team. Bill will do it without a second thought if he thinks it's best for the team. It's not likely but never say never.

Personally I think the battle between Mallett and Garoppolo will be fun to watch.

PatsFanSince74 · May 12, 2014

sb1 said:
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Personally I think the battle between Mallett and Garoppolo will be fun to watch.

If there's a "battle," then Belichick will have made a major mistake in using a Second Round pick on Garoppolo. Using a second round pick on a QB suggests that BB has already made up his mind about Mallett.

hwc · May 12, 2014

PatsFanSince74 said:
If there's a "battle," then Belichick will have made a major mistake in using a Second Round pick on Garoppolo. Using a second round pick on a QB suggests that BB has already made up his mind about Mallett.

It's not really BB's decision. Ryan Mallet is an unrestricted free agent after the 2014 season and would be unlikely to come to terms on a new contract with the Pats. The Pats will need a back up QB, ideally one who could at least have a shot of being groomed as Brady's successor. Hence the selection of of Garopolo.

BUSTAMOVE · May 12, 2014

The teams that do not have a Brady, Manning, Rogers type do this every year. Trying to find that right guy. We have 3-4 years to sort that out. Will not be Mallet. May or may not be JG. Brady will end his career here. Makes too much sense for both him and the Pats. Think he was crushed as a kid when Montana got shipped. Won't do the same. So advantageous for the Pats organization to have Brady retire a Patriot. Just hope we find that right guy. Maybe he is in the house, or back to this again next year.

Miguel · May 12, 2014

patsinthesnow said:
Realistic scenario if Garoppolo turns out to be legit:

Miguel has mentioned that in 2016, Brady becomes tradeable as we would receive cap relief if he is traded at this point.

Brady becomes tradeable on June 2, 2015.

Hopefully, Garoppolo's presence will cause a Patriots beat writer to look at Brady's contract and look at the conditions of his salary guarantees. I suspect that TB's salaries for the 2015/2016/2017 seasons will become guaranteed at the end of the 2014 league year despite what Peter King, aka Don Yee's mouthpiece, has said in the past.

RhodyPatriot · May 13, 2014

Brady_to_Moss said:
If he is 40..and the pats feel like Jimmy G is ready..they may go to him...if at 39 we all see brady is declining bad..the call will have to be made....i just hope he doesn't go somewhere else

But when Brady goes...BB goes

Don't know why people assume BB is going when Brady does. Why would he?? If he enjoys coaching there is no reason for Belichick to retire when Brady does. I think he relishes the challenge of winning without TB.

Jackson 2 · May 13, 2014

Brady6 said:
Ron Borges was on CSNE last night and said he does not think Brady is going to play the final three years of this contract at the current pay rate. Borges thinks there will be a contract situation after this season.

For reasons too numerous to enumerate here, Ron Borges's opinion on the Belichik Patriots doesn't count.

Brady6 · May 13, 2014

Jackson 2 said:
For reasons too numerous to enumerate here, Ron Borges's opinion on the Belichik Patriots doesn't count.

I agree, I will just pointing out what Borges said.

Jackson 2 · May 13, 2014

Brady6 said:
I agree, I will just pointing out what Borges said.

If you agree that his opinion doesn't count, why would you post it without indicating that it doesn't count? Frankly, your presentation of his opinion seemed, to me at least, an attempt to legitimize it.

sb1 · May 13, 2014

Jackson 2 said:
For reasons too numerous to enumerate here, Ron Borges's opinion on the Belichik Patriots doesn't count.

Was that his original thought or did he borrow it from somewhere ?

Big-T · May 13, 2014

If in 2 years time the 49ers despite being loaded with talent haven't got over the hump and won a Lombardi offered say a 1st and 3rd for a 39 year old Brady then it'd have to be strongly considered if Garoppolo has progressed a suitable amount.

It's sad that the time when #12 isn't under center for the Patriots is approaching

TimU · May 13, 2014

I think that expecting Brady to play three or four more years is unrealistic. He is 37 this season. Here is the list of quarterbacks that have started the majority of a team's games at age 40 or older:

Brett Favre
Warren Moon
Vinnie Testaverde

In the entire history of the NFL, that's it. If you make a list of Brady's "comps" - Montana, Starr, Unitas, Warner, Marino, Dawson, Graham, Elway, Staubach, Young, Bradshaw, whoever you think belongs on the list - you will find that they were almost all retired by the time they were 39. So I would argue that NFL history strongly suggests that Brady has 1-2 years left, and that Belichick knows this, and that is why he picked Garoppolo.

dales804 · May 13, 2014

Brady has said he wants to play until at least 40 and I think we can count on that, unless injuries derail him. It will be a sad day when TB12 isn't under center for NE again. What a strange sight it will be to see someone other than Brady taking snaps in a meaningful game, knowing he won't be back.

Jackson 2 · May 13, 2014

sb1 said:
Was that his original thought or did he borrow it from somewhere ?

Who TF knows?? It's Ron Borges! He's a freaking mental case.

ctpatsfan77 · May 13, 2014

TimU said:
I think that expecting Brady to play three or four more years is unrealistic. He is 37 this season. Here is the list of quarterbacks that have started the majority of a team's games at age 40 or older:

Brett Favre
Warren Moon
Vinnie Testaverde

In the entire history of the NFL, that's it. If you make a list of Brady's "comps" - Montana, Starr, Unitas, Warner, Marino, Dawson, Graham, Elway, Staubach, Young, Bradshaw, whoever you think belongs on the list - you will find that they were almost all retired by the time they were 39. So I would argue that NFL history strongly suggests that Brady has 1-2 years left, and that Belichick knows this, and that is why he picked Garoppolo.

Except that if you look at that list of names, none of them were active in this era, when it's possible to tear your ACL in December and still be back on the field in September. I'm not saying he's definitely going to play another decade, merely that it's not out of the question that the Patriots' biggest question in 2016 will not be if they should extend Brady yet again, but for how long.

PatsFanSince74 · May 13, 2014

hwc said:
It's not really BB's decision. Ryan Mallet is an unrestricted free agent after the 2014 season and would be unlikely to come to terms on a new contract with the Pats. The Pats will need a back up QB, ideally one who could at least have a shot of being groomed as Brady's successor. Hence the selection of of Garopolo.

nothing to disagree with there. my point was a different one: that if there were a "battle" between Mallett and Garoppolo, then Belichick would have erred in using a number two on a QB who couldn't easily beat out a guy he'd observed for three seasons and decided couldn't replace Brady.

PatsFanSince74 · May 13, 2014

ctpatsfan77 said:
Except that if you look at that list of names, none of them were active in this era, when it's possible to tear your ACL in December and still be back on the field in September. I'm not saying he's definitely going to play another decade, merely that it's not out of the question that the Patriots' biggest question in 2016 will not be if they should extend Brady yet again, but for how long.

I hope you're statement turns out to be right, but worry that it's wishful thinking.

I've set my own expectations along the lines that TB has one or two years left at an elite level; anything after that is gravy. I like gravy.

AzPatsFan · May 14, 2014

JMC00 said:
Did you hear what he based that on?

Gisele.

Between what she makes and them selling the house they built in California for over $40m. Just don't think she will be hounding Tom to get more money.

Also history shows Brady just doesn't do that. In fact he would probably restructure to have less of a cap hit if it meant keeping Revis.

There are athletes who know when it is time to go, and exit on top like Elway. There are athletes like Willie Mays, who are a sad shell at the end, and almost have to be dragged off the field as their talents eroded.

I fear Tom Brady is one of those kinds of competitive guys.

FourierSeries · May 14, 2014

Hopefully his future will include a couple more SB rings and SBMVPs.

AzPatsFan · May 14, 2014

PatsFanSince74 said:
nothing to disagree with there. my point was a different one: that if there were a "battle" between Mallett and Garoppolo, then Belichick would have erred in using a number two on a QB who couldn't easily beat out a guy he'd observed for three seasons and decided couldn't replace Brady.

I don't think that decision has been made at all.

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