Highlights and thoughts on our Draft picks..

JDot · May 11, 2014

Highlights and thoughts of our picks after the first 2. I think there is enough talk on Easley and Garoppolo. So I am just going to focus on our day 3 picks.

C - Bryan Stork

He might beat out Wendell. I like this pick, but I don't think there is much upside. But then again when I compare him to Wendell, I guess there is lots of upside.

RB - James White

Decent back, a bit small can catch and run between the tackles. He is a decent pick, lots of upside. Is good at picking up the blitz.

T - Cameron Fleming

This guy is huge, can back up Vollmer/Cannon and also play inside. He is a very interesting pick

(Cannot not find highlight clips of him)

G - Jon Halapio

This might be my favourite pick on day 3. I think he has a outside chance to beat out Connelly. Dude is tough as hell played all last year with a torn pec.

DE - Zach Moore

I have no idea about this guy. He can't be worse then Jake Bequette

DB - Jemea Thomas.

Hard to say with him, the guy played everywhere in GT's back field. Hard hitter, who is a good tackler. I think ST is where he will make his mark on this team.

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JDot · May 11, 2014

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WR - Jeremy Gallon

I like him. Very short, but runs great routes, has great hands and is a gamer. His game against Indian last year is still mind blowing. Going to be tough for dude to get into the line up tho.

Favorite UDFA sighing so far, Roy Finch. If Brandon Bolden was not put on Notice with the James White pick. He is now on notice with the Finch signing. This kid is a beast, love this signing. What I really love about finch, is he has that second gear after contact.

All and all, I am kinda meh on this draft. I honestly have a Larry david reaction to this draft.

Did the Pats go for the needs I wanted? Yes OL and DL. Am I in love with the picks no. Kinda a meh draft for me.

TruthSeeker · May 11, 2014

Oddly enough they didn't go after a TE in the draft, but I guess they felt they found TE value in the UDFA signings. There will be a lot of competition come minicamps.

JDot · May 11, 2014

scott99 said:
Oddly enough they didn't go after a TE in the draft, but I guess they felt they found TE value in the UDFA signings. There will be a lot of competition come minicamps.

The good TE's where gone by the middle of round 2. I honestly think this TE class was overrated a bit. I have pretty much accepted that we will not be going 2 tight end set heavy for the foreseeable future. Gronk really needs to stay healthy this year..

In all honesty, I have no idea what the Pats O will be heavy on. It looks run heavy from this draft, but who knows..

ATippett56 · May 11, 2014

Upon further research, I hate the Bryan Stork pick. After the Travis Swanson selection, the New England Patriots should have bypassed the center prospects altogether aside from UDFA signings.

There was definitely better value at positions of need, especially at linebacker with the departure of Brandon Spikes, with the aforementioned fourth round selection:

Carl Bradford, OLB/ILB - Arizona State

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737364/carl-bradford

JDot · May 11, 2014

ATippett56 said:
Upon further research, I hate the Bryan Stork pick. After the Travis Swanson selection, the New England Patriots should have bypassed the center prospects altogether aside from UDFA signings.

There was definitely better value at positions of need, especially at linebacker with the departure of Brandon Spikes, with the aforementioned fourth round selection:

Carl Bradford, OLB/ILB - Arizona State

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737364/carl-bradford

Not taking a LB this draft is head scratching. I am alright with the Stork pick as I wanted a centre. But I am still a liitle upset that the Centre was not Marcus Martin. But ya, not getting a LB this draft was a hmm..

I am not a big fan of Carl Bradford. As a Oregon fan, I watched how they picked on him. Weak in coverage IMHO.

ATippett56 · May 11, 2014

JDot said:
I am not a big fan of Carl Bradford. As a Oregon fan, I watched how they picked on him. Weak in coverage IMHO.

Nothing can be weaker in coverage than the combination of Hightower/Spikes.

JDot · May 11, 2014

ATippett56 said:
Nothing can be weaker in coverage than the combination of Hightower/Spikes.

Very true..

stinkypete · May 11, 2014

My overall impression of the draft...

Meeting needs - 4/6
Our biggest needs appeared to be TE, OL, DL, LB and S. The OL reload was long overdue and, if all works out, has us set for a few years. Needs at TE and LB were not met. TE is understandable, ASJ, Niklas and Feidorowicz were overdrafted, and the day 3 prospects are no better than Hooman. I was let down watching guys like Tripp, Zumwalt and Pierre-Lewis get drafted.

Instant impact - 5/9
That's how many of these players I anticipate getting significant playing time - Easley, White, Thomas, and let's say 2 out of the 3 OL.

Value 4/6
Based on pre-draft "expert" analysis and rankings, I would argue that Easley and Stork were drafted ahead of their value, with Stork being taken a full 2 rounds too early. Garrapolo, Fleming, Thomas and Halapio were taken at very good value. The rest of the players went just about when they should have.

Future ceiling - high
A healthy Easley has perennial pro-bowl potential. Garoppolo is a steal in round 2 IF he wind's up Brady's successor. The Halapio/Stork/Fleming trio could be the future of the future interior line

Bust potential - high
Simple, if the Pats don't win a SB in the next 2 years, and Garoppolo fails to develop into a future starter, people will be calling for Belichick's head.

Captain Cliche · May 12, 2014

I see little guys that get caught from behind...

BlueThunder · May 12, 2014

Pats should have one rookie player in the starting DL rotation and possibly one starting on the OL. Depth on OL should be improved. One wonders how much Dante will be missed developing the youngsters.

I doubt any team will be raiding the Pats PS this year...

borg · May 12, 2014

Zach Moore
BB states that Moore needs to "develop and add skill sets".....aka.....heading to the practice squad. I imagine training at the Division II level pales in comparison to elite Division I programs and certainly the NFL so lets see what kind of transformation occurs after "our trainers" rebuild him. Clearly they like the the kid's foundation.

varjao · May 12, 2014

BB's thoughts

DE Zach Moore (6th round, 198th overall) -- "He's got a lot of football in front of him. Lower level of competition there [in Division II] but he stood out and has a real good future if he can come in and develop some of the skills he has. I think he has a real interesting skill set -- he's long, has good quickness, good burst/get off the ball. But he needs a lot of work. It's probably going to take a little bit of time, but we'll see."

Seriously, could not they use a 7th round pick for this or wait to grab on udfa? A 6th in this draft worth a player taking snaps this upcoming season.

borg · May 12, 2014

varjao said:
BB's thoughts
DE Zach Moore (6th round, 198th overall) -- "He's got a lot of football in front of him. Lower level of competition there [in Division II] but he stood out and has a real good future if he can come in and develop some of the skills he has. I think he has a real interesting skill set -- he's long, has good quickness, good burst/get off the ball. But he needs a lot of work. It's probably going to take a little bit of time, but we'll see."

Seriously, could not they use a 7th round pick for this or wait to grab on udfa? A 6th in this draft worth a player taking snaps this upcoming season.

Ebner was a 6th rounder as well......superior athlete but not a football player yet. I get why the Pats go so early on picks likely to make it to UDFA. First, they are guaranteed to get the player vs the UDFA mad scramble. Second, the Pats likely view the 7th as the round most teams look at unusual cases (think Matt Cassell)....so the Pats front run them a round. .....And in a draft that is being labeled a "look to the future" draft for NE, they already had 6 on the books so why not take an "upside" project and see what develops.And finally....considering there were 50 + picks to go, NE likely felt he would be gone....and they liked him...Big, strong, raw.........but never developed. Get him in an NFL weight room and train as a professional athlete does for 12 months vs a Division II athlete.
PS...lets remember this kid was a known quantity who was invited to the combine

He wrote this in his combine blog....
"It was towards the end of my senior year of high school, right around signing day, I found out I was Division I-ineligible. I had offers, mostly out of the Big Ten and the MAC. My dream school would've been Michigan or Ohio State. But I couldn't really accept an offer because of the grades. My ACT didn't match my GPA. So, I was D-I non-qualified.
It was kind of a heartbreaking time. But I made the best out of going to Concordia and ultimately I did good there, which put me in a position to be here, at the NFL combine. Last season, I saw over 35 to 40 different scouts. Every single NFL team's been there. "

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...y-concordia-defensive-end-zach-moore/5762227/

TruthSeeker · May 12, 2014

JDot said:
The good TE's where gone by the middle of round 2. I honestly think this TE class was overrated a bit. I have pretty much accepted that we will not be going 2 tight end set heavy for the foreseeable future. Gronk really needs to stay healthy this year..

In all honesty, I have no idea what the Pats O will be heavy on. It looks run heavy from this draft, but who knows..

Actually, I think the TEs in this class were underrated. I think Jace Amaro is going to be a beast, and haunt us for years to come, The Jets offense has suddenly become..... an offense. With Decker, Johnson, Amaro, Kerley, and the 2 WRs they drafted, they will be able to score 20+ points a game. I think all of the TEs we like and studied will be good NFL TEs. HOPEFULLY Gronk can give us a full season, HOPEFULLY someone else can step up IF/WHEN he can't.

yukon cornelius · May 12, 2014

borg said:
Ebner was a 6th rounder as well......superior athlete but not a football player yet. I get why the Pats go so early on picks likely to make it to UDFA. First, they are guaranteed to get the player vs the UDFA mad scramble. Second, the Pats likely view the 7th as the round most teams look at unusual cases (think Matt Cassell)....so the Pats front run them a round. .....And in a draft that is being labeled a "look to the future" draft for NE, they already had 6 on the books so why not take an "upside" project and see what develops.And finally....considering there were 50 + picks to go, NE likely felt he would be gone....and they liked him...Big, strong, raw.........but never developed. Get him in an NFL weight room and train as a professional athlete does for 12 months vs a Division II athlete.
PS...lets remember this kid was a known quantity who was invited to the combine

He wrote this in his combine blog....
"It was towards the end of my senior year of high school, right around signing day, I found out I was Division I-ineligible. I had offers, mostly out of the Big Ten and the MAC. My dream school would've been Michigan or Ohio State. But I couldn't really accept an offer because of the grades. My ACT didn't match my GPA. So, I was D-I non-qualified.
It was kind of a heartbreaking time. But I made the best out of going to Concordia and ultimately I did good there, which put me in a position to be here, at the NFL combine. Last season, I saw over 35 to 40 different scouts. Every single NFL team's been there. "

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...y-concordia-defensive-end-zach-moore/5762227/

it makes sense sometimes/often times to get the guys you want rather than waiting and taking the best that is there

taking a kicker in a fantasy draft in the 1st round is always a bad move.......but not getting the guy you want now, letting him go in an effort to get him at the "right" time is never a good move

when you have a roster than needs serious upgrades, the best guy available scenario is a good one......when you have a strong roster, sometimes the best guy for you isn't always the best guy available......

and even then, sometimes the "best" guy at a position of need isn't always the best fit, for a multitude of reasons

Danger Zone · May 12, 2014

borg said:
Ebner was a 6th rounder as well......superior athlete but not a football player yet. I get why the Pats go so early on picks likely to make it to UDFA. First, they are guaranteed to get the player vs the UDFA mad scramble. Second, the Pats likely view the 7th as the round most teams look at unusual cases (think Matt Cassell)....so the Pats front run them a round

Well said. Exactly how I see it as well.

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