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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Around 36% of the players drafted between 2008-2013 are still on the Patriots. Belichick is not flawless, so I would caution you on just agreeing with everything he does.I don't know, nor do I pretend to know. That's why I put all my faith with BB and co.
Draft is a crap shoot.
#65 to Houston.Since we have so many draftniks here, I'd like to know where Jimmy Garoppolo would have been taken if the Pats didn't take him at #62?
He is not that GOOD!!!! Mallet is a better QB. He played in the Ohio Valley Conference for Pet's sake! That is a tick above the Hobomock League on the South Shore!
Here are his stats:
08/31@SDGSTW 40-19463167.43617.8304205.00
09/07@SILW 40-37563460.74407.941520.40
09/14ILSTW 57-24412663.448011.7705-11-2.20
09/21@NILLL 39-43493469.44509.2628-22-2.80
09/28EKYW 42-7392666.73228.3312136.50
10/10@APW 63-7302170.030610.250263.01
10/19SEMOSTW 55-33302273.337612.5325214.20
10/26@TNSTW 34-16412458.541010.0414-23-5.80
11/02TNTECHW 56-21503366.03998.0414-6-1.50
11/09@MURYSTW 37-17402870.02997.5106335.51
11/16JAXSTW 52-14241562.51697.0207142.00
11/23@TNMARTW 70-22462656.547710.4602-1-0.50
12/07TNSTW 51-10261765.42409.231640.7
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12/13TWSTL 39-49503876.03216.42010121.2
I'm still trying to figure out
who the hell half of these teams are! I figured Northern Illinois is a decent (lower tier program) I see he lost the them. It looks like whoever TWST (Townsen State???) is, they kept him in check. Good god he has played against ANYOBODY!!! And don't bring up Tony Romo, yes he broke Romo's records here, but please remember ROMO WENT UNDRAFTED!!!!! (and he still stinks).
It's not that all I care about is this year, I just prioritize it over 2018. Tom Brady is a once in a lifetime player, if you do not recognize that I cannot explain it to you. When you have a once in a lifetime player and the time left with him is limited you maximize it. You are expecting to catch lighting in a bottle back to back, how often does that happen?
Around 36% of the players drafted between 2008-2013 are still on the Patriots. Belichick is not flawless, so I would caution you on just agreeing with everything he does.
What does that have to do with anything? We have had the greatest QB ever, put TB12 on any of those teams for the past 13 years and they would have had wining seasons too. Dur that is just so expected to turn to "we have winning seasons so we are smarter" like the QB isn't the biggest difference maker in the NFL and having the best one in the game meant nothing. How many losing seasons have Rodgers, Manning, and Brees had in recent years?
Easley is not a questionable choice because no one else would have chosen him. The choice was a questionable choice because of the players available at the time.
Most of Garoppolo's work came against shoft shells and not the kind of coverages that he's going to see as a pro. Doesn't mean he can't or won't make it, but quality of opponent has to be taken into account at least somewhat. He's years away right now and looks to be a better fit for the WCO than the Ehrhardt-Perkins. I would have preferred that the team go with a guy there that could have contributed immediately. Oh well.San Diego State is an FBS school that went to a bowl game. EI blew them out and JG put up those numbers in SDSU's house. The tape from that game is pretty impressive. Watch it. Towson went to the FCS Championship game, losing to North Dakota State. North Dakota State would beat most FBS teams, including the bottom half of the SEC.
FCS football is much better than it used to be. The Dolphins took 5 FCS guys in the 2014 Draft. Even Ozzie took one.
All that doesn't mean JG will be a franchise QB or even an NFL starter but it means the pick is not as outrageous as it may seem to some.
Not really. Hoyer, Cassell, and. Mallett will all be on the free agent market next year and any of them could serve as the backup if signed.
It's not that all I care about is this year, I just prioritize it over 2018. Tom Brady is a once in a lifetime player, if you do not recognize that I cannot explain it to you. When you have a once in a lifetime player and the time left with him is limited you maximize it. You are expecting to catch lighting in a bottle back to back, how often does that happen?
why wait until it is a necessity?
why is a guy at 62 who is going to be a back up at QB somehow less preferable to a guy at 62 who is going to be a backup TE? or a backup LB?
there were no interior OL taken in that range that were clearly better (and a better fit) than those taken later......the reach would have been taking similar talent (on the Pats board) at 62 than what could be (and was) taken later
this roster is more or less set across the board.....save for LB depth & TE depth......i don't see a soul at 62 (that couldn't be had later, either in name or similar talent) that was going to crack this roster enough to make a real impact, no
Do not speak to the knowledge of other posters when you are the most mindless poster on this board and every post you make consists of agreeing with or advocating for a Belichick decision. You do not think for yourself at all, so to imply you have football knowledge or can assess another persons football knowledge is moronic.
You like the Graoppolo pick because you like everything Belichick does, you have never objected to a single thing he had done and therefore you have zero credibility in my eyes.
I invested significant time in the scouting and predraft process, I know more about every player picked then you do, you were barely in the draft forum prior to the draft, you are riding on the fact that Belichick made the pick so it must be a good one, you do not know anything about the players drafted without googling them.
Kill their fans brain cells? You're not a fan you're a puppet that lacks the capacity to do anything besides agree with Belichick. Stop wasting my time with your endless crap it is so overplayed and predictable.
It was not needed, we have Ryan Mallett. In addition we could have drafted a QB later in the draft. Belichick in my opinion either was trying to force O'Brien and Houston's hand or got pissed off during the trade talks for Mallett so they took the player they were targeting at #65, because we were actually going to take Allen Robinson but Jacksonville jumped in front of us.
Anyone of these players would have been a better pick and could have contributed right away.
Marcus Martin - OL
Morgan Mosses - OL
Billy Turner - OL
Travis Swanson - OL
Gabe Jackson - OL
Tria Turner - OL
CJ Fiedorowicz - TE
Charles Simms - RB
Christian Kirksey - LB
Scott Crichton - DE
Louis Nix - DT
Kareem Martin - DE
Donte Mocrief - WR
Tre Mason - RB
Jarvis Landry - WR
There were options available who could have been rotation players at S, LB, DE, DT, and WR, just off the top of my head. In general, there are always a bunch of guys who can help your team, year one, in specific roles that are available in round 2. Even if they don't start, you can find Jamie Collins types who have a specific function that they perform as well as anyone currently on the roster.
It's not Garoppolo being a backup that I don't like. It's that, barring a major injury, he will not play a single meaningful snap in 2014. I understand that the QB of the future will need to be selected at some point, and sooner rather than later, but I don't agree that the second round in 2014 was the right time to do it.
I followed the draft, understand the players and their capabilities on the field, in their combine and pro day workouts, etc. I am a lot more equipped to assess the situation than you the poster who just agrees with what Belichick does and cannot determine anything on his own. It is Belichick’s opinion that JG is a good pick, it is not even yours you do not have opinions you are a follower.So, now you are Ms. Cleo and can see the future and you KNOW that these players would have contributed right away. It is pure speculation on your part that they would have contributed right away.. They could just as easily blow out a knee (ala Tyrone McKenzie) during Rookie camps as they could be a contributor.