2014 NFL Draft, Day 3: Rounds 4 - 7 thread

Did the Patriots call "dibs" on Coleman or something and the other 31 teams said "okay "

Brady6 said:

If the five people who disagreed with my post do not think that –

Richardson
C Jones (LB)
Jeffcoat
Reilly
Coyle
Coleman
Skov
Gayle
Loston
Hubbard
Murphy
Patchan
Millard
Kerr
Exum
Seastrunk
C Jones (WR)
Hazel

Halapio was a better choice than all these players in your minds?

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Great - you've taken to quoting yourself to try and prove a point that you can't legitimately prove

Sfpat said:

Draft picks and associated grades are all over the map with this draft, especially offensive linemen. Every team has made head scratching picks

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Look at Halapio workout numbers and his college tape, then look at his injury history it was not a good pick. If you think it was that is your right, just like I am allowed to feel it was not a good pick.

Almost up. Gotta think it'll be a special teamer, probably linebacker.

Would it kill them to take a potential playmaker here?

Okay guys. Which OL man we taking this time? Place your bets!

Brady6 said:

I have plenty to back it up, how about the fact that he was rated as the #292 prospect in the draft, and graded out as a seventh round – UDFA prospect.

Let us be realistic here DaBruinz you have NEVER said one negative thing about any decision Belichick has made so how the heck can anything you say be taken with any objectivity. You defend everything like Belichick ****’s roses, and that destroys your creditability for me.


My assessment of our draft –

Easley – great pick
JG – good player/disliked the pick
Stork – Meh pick
White – Meh pick
Fleming – good pick
Halapio – not a good pick

Your assessment of our draft –

Easley – Best pick EVER
JG – AMAZING PICK
Stork – GREAT PICK
White – SUPER PICK
Fleming – BESTEST PICK
Halapio – BB is having a GREAT DRAFT THIS PICK RULES

Whose assessment do you think is more believable?

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Never mind the Wonderlick but it seems like, contrary to the Combine deference for most organizations, BB targeted smarts, football smarts, size, actual collegiate production and winning. JG's other wordly production in a lesser conference will get plenty of time to adjust to the pros given who is ahead of him. Every year that goes by, Tom Brady is more of at risk to get injured or to show signs of decline considering his own mortality. However you feel about the above picks, it seems like BB always has a strategy no matter what the draftniks and pundits opine. Sometimes he hits one out of the park and sometimes he whiffs. We can't judge how even one of these picks will work out ahead of time because even top first round draft choices fail with reasonable frequency. Those of us who remember the team's founding with Babe Parilli and Gino Cappiletti as its first "stars" have no complaints about the Belichick era.

DaBruinz said:

Great - you've taken to quoting yourself to try and prove a point that you can't legitimately prove

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I actually just asked a question, which you elected not to answer. You can click the disagree button but why don’t you provide me with something that justifies your belief that Halapio was a better pick than any of these players.

BobDigital said:

We we still need a TE, LB & S i think. Only 3 picks left. I honestly think 1 is going to go completely unaddressed in the draft at this point.

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I think that BB must be happy with the Safeties, so I'm not worried. However the lack of LB's and TE's is really puzzling to me. 3 OLmen, WTF????????? I know we neede one, and I thought Stork was a decent pick. The OT was puzzling, and another G is positively insane, especially with such gaping needs at TE, and LB depth

Between the Garappolo pick and the mind numbing picks today, I'm almost ready to go on a rant. Bobby Grier is at home probably going, "good pick", "right on the money". "yup I would have done that" ....and we all know that THAT's not a good thing.

I'm happy with the Easly and Stork picks. The RB pick was OK, But the rest are a waste of time and resources. Its very hard to think that anyone other than Easly and Stork are likely to ever start for the Pats. After the first round, most of our opponents got better through this draft. We didn't.

Brady6 said:

Funny this is what NFL draft scout says right now. I talk out my ass and you straight up lie

Name: Jon Halapio
College: Florida Number: 67
Height: 6-4 Weight: 323
Position: OG Pos2: OT
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2014
40 Low: 5.22 40 Time: 5.29 40 High: 5.45
Projected Round: 7-FA

Name: Bryan Stork (+) Coming off Knee & Shoulder INJs
College: Florida State Number: 52
Height: 6-4 Weight: 315
Position: C Pos2: OG/OT/TE
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2014
40 Low: 5.34 40 Time: 5.45 40 High: 5.55
Projected Round: 7-FA

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The problem you have here is NFL Draft Scout doesn't actually make picks in the NFL draft so their opinion doesn't matter. This was discusses earlier in the week in the draft forum, big boards are only a guide and can't be taken as fact for a number of reasons. First of which is those rankings aren't team based and every team ranks players differently based on their own system. That fact alone makes NFL draft scout rankings highly flawed and silly to use as facts in an argument. As much as any of the media and analysts have watched these players its not even close to the amount of time the teams have put into them. It's simply not possible for these draft services to do the same evaluation because they don't have the resources. They aren't doing the medical checks or interviewing players so how can they get an accurate ranking of players?

Froob said:

Almost up. Gotta think it'll be a special teamer, probably linebacker.

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Marqui said:

Would it kill them to take a potential playmaker here?

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WRONG! OL incoming! (A guard can be a play maker and special teamer too you know).

Brady6 said:

Funny this is what NFL draft scout says right now. I talk out my ass and you straight up lie

Name: Jon Halapio
College: Florida Number: 67
Height: 6-4 Weight: 323
Position: OG Pos2: OT
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2014
40 Low: 5.22 40 Time: 5.29 40 High: 5.45
Projected Round: 7-FA

Name: Bryan Stork (+) Coming off Knee & Shoulder INJs
College: Florida State Number: 52
Height: 6-4 Weight: 315
Position: C Pos2: OG/OT/TE
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2014
40 Low: 5.34 40 Time: 5.45 40 High: 5.55
Projected Round: 7-FA

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Actually, Jackass, you are the liar because you skipped over the part of the line where it says projected on NFLDraftscout.com that says:
Halapio: High:5-6th Low:PFA
Stork: High:5-6th Low:PFA

BTW, you also can't read. I said that OURLADS/LINDY's had Stork higher up. This was posted by someone else earlier in the thread.

That is par for the course with you. You think you know what you are talking about, but you don't. You never have since the day you started posting on this board. And I'm not the only one who has taken you to task for this.

I'm going to laugh when they pick FB J.C. Copeland to further the power running game

Wilfork#75 said:

The problem you have here is NFL Draft Scout doesn't actually make picks in the NFL draft so their opinion doesn't matter. This was discusses earlier in the week in the draft forum, big boards are only a guide and can't be taken as fact for a number of reasons. First of which is those rankings aren't team based and every team ranks players differently based on their own system. That fact alone makes NFL draft scout rankings highly flawed and silly to use as facts in an argument. As much as any of the media and analysts have watched these players its not even close to the amount of time the teams have put into them. It's simply not possible for these draft services to do the same evaluation because they don't have the resources. They aren't doing the medical checks or interviewing players so how can they get an accurate ranking of players?

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I did not like the Halapio pick, I did not start watching the draft expecting to like every pick we made so it really is not any skin off my back, I am just giving my opinion that Halapio was the worst pick we have made so far.

PICK IS IN!

why is there always a commercial when the Pats pick?

Brady6 said:

Sure thing DaBruinz, that is it.

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That's EXACTLY what it is and I've proven it yet again in this thread.

DaBruinz said:

Actually, Jackass, you are the liar because you skipped over the part of the line where it says projected on NFLDraftscout.com that says:
Halapio: High:5-6th Low:PFA
Stork: High:5-6th Low:PFA

BTW, you also can't read. I said that OURLADS/LINDY's had Stork higher up. This was posted by someone else earlier in the thread.

That is par for the course with you. You think you know what you are talking about, but you don't. You never have since the day you started posting on this board. And I'm not the only one who has taken you to task for this.

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So we base draft stocks on their “high” now? Do we do that for the Jets and the rest of our opponents or is that just a homer thing?

I like the Zach Moore pick.

Who?

DaBruinz said:

Wrong. There are actually people on this board who have been coaches and have played the game. THEY have a basis for statements in certain areas.

That being said, Brady6 is talking out his arse with no facts to support him. Such as the FACT that was mentioned earlier about Stork being rated as a 3rd-5th round pick by Ourlads/Lindy's. Halapio was rated a 5th-UDFA by NFLDraftScout.com. Pats took him in the 6th and he's complaining about it..

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Hah! WHy aren't you working as an NFL scout?