Pats draft QB Jimmy Garropolo from Eastern Illinois in the 2nd round

iapatsfan said:

The deepest draft in years (supposedly), and the Patriots have not made a pick that is going to improve the 2014 team through three rounds. I like Easley, but the practically universally accepted theory is players don't get back to full strength until the 2nd yr back from ACL surgery.

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wes welker & adrian petersen say hi


ACL surgery & rehab is light years ahead of where it was just a few years ago.....

KontradictioN said:

This is a **** draft thus far. I like that they're looking toward the future but I don't think they could have picked a worse QB if they tried. And I'm sure those that dislike this post will be the guys not exactly known for their college football prowess.

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So you watched a bunch of Eastern Illinois games? If not, just call me kettle.

Oinko said:

This is a value play -- Garropolo will be positioned as Mallet's eventual long term backup, to show the league that Mallet is a franchise quarterback, so that the Pats can then trade Mallet for two first rounders, as has always been the plan.

You start from the premise that Mallet has great trade value, and work backwards from there. You end up with a solid conclusion.

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Makes complete sense now.

Jimmy G could also really stink it up in pre season so Mallet comes in and looks like a savior. If BB can convince the other teams HC to have his DBs let Mallet complete some pre season TD bombs that would be beneficial. NFL Teams will then be beating down BBs door fighting over Mallet. They might even throw in a 2nd pick with those 2 1sts if BB plays his cards right. Jimmy is just a pawn in the game.

I don't pay much attention to the pre-draft talk and certainly not to the college football world, so I hadn't the foggiest idea who this guy was. I will say that I really like his quick release and his footwork on some of the video I saw of him. Unlike some other college QB vids I saw pre-draft, I don't see a lot in the way of sloppy mechanics, which is pretty fly.

I'm surprised but I don't hate the pick. I don't judge drafts until a few years down the road. It's always wait-and-see.

I read this thread and see all of these "we have Brady for 4 more years" comments and have to believe that everyone has forgotten 2008. You simply cannot ignore the injury factor, especially with a 37 year old quarterback. This pick is simply good planning by the Patriots. I'd much rather have a better back-up QB at the expense of a 2nd round pick than be stuck without one in the future.

AzorianPats said:

We drafted Mallet in the third round.

If he was the number one player on the Pats board, and they really see potential in him, why not pick him? Rodgers was drafted in the first, backed up Favre for 3 years.

Mallet is gone after this year. We need to be ready for that. In case something happens to Brady, I'd rather the team have a second round pick they they developed/are developing then having a journeyman backup like a Charlie Batch.

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Aaron Rodgers was a top five draft pick that slide to #24 in the draft, as I said I like JG but he is not Aaron Rodgers. We did not need to take a QB this year, JG will turn 23 in November, if Brady plays out his contract he would be turning 27 the first year he is a starter. I have no issue with the player, I think he is a very good prospect, I just do not like the timing of the pick, 2014 is the best shot this team has at a SB, and we should be adding pieces that can contribute now. We had a chance to add a OC with Martin who could have started day one, a long term replacement for Vince Wilfork with Louis Nix, or a good blocking TE with solid hands in CJF.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexan...ond-round-of-nfl-draft/#23126101=3&23212103=0

Houston looked at Jimmy.

Is the plan to have Houston trade for Jimmy since they didnt want Mallet?

Gruden's QB Camp: Jimmy Garoppolo - ESPN Video

Gotta love the video and the factoid that Garoppolo blew away Tony Romo's and Sean Payton's passing records at Eastern Illinois.

bresna said:

I read this thread and see all of these "we have Brady for 4 more years" comments and have to believe that everyone has forgotten 2008. You simply cannot ignore the injury factor, especially with a 37 year old quarterback. This pick is simply good planning by the Patriots. I'd much rather have a better back-up QB at the expense of a 2nd round pick than be stuck without one in the future.

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I think what is overlooked is in 2008 we overcame the Brady injury with a seventh round QB, so why not try and do that again if all you are looking for is a backup QB to develop. This draft was so deep, we had a chance to add a first round talent at #62, a player that could immediately contribute to winning a title, and we opted to draft a QB to replace Brady who may not even start a game before he hits free agency.

As I have said several times, the player is a very good player; the pick is what I dislike, the timing of it and the need for it.

the players we need to contribute to winning a title are mostly on the roster right now....i still expect a signing or two post draft (keller most likely)

anyone they took at 62 was not going to make an immediate impact......they'll get OL depth (which is needed) later in this draft......

Brady6 said:

I think what is overlooked is in 2008 we overcame the Brady injury with a seventh round QB, so why not try and do that again if all you are looking for is a backup QB to develop. This draft was so deep, we had a chance to add a first round talent at #62, a player that could immediately contribute to winning a title, and we opted to draft a QB to replace Brady who may not even start a game before he hits free agency.

As I have said several times, the player is a very good player; the pick is what I dislike, the timing of it and the need for it.

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A 7th round qb that had 2-3 years experience in our system.

How this team developed Brady, and looking at what they did with Cassel and even Hoyer, gives me plenty of hope that they can make something of JG. I think even Mallet given the chance could be good. We have no idea what we have in Mallet. He could be just another journeyman QB, or he could be a QB that has the skill to start for half the teams in the league. We honestly have no clue.

AzorianPats said:

A 7th round qb that had 2-3 years experience in our system.

How this team developed Brady, and looking at what they did with Cassel and even Hoyer, gives me plenty of hope that they can make something of JG. I think even Mallet given the chance could be good. We have no idea what we have in Mallet. He could be just another journeyman QB, or he could be a QB that has the skill to start for half the teams in the league. We honestly have no clue.

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Here's to NOT finding out for the next couple of years.

Galeb said:

So you watched a bunch of Eastern Illinois games? If not, just call me kettle.

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That's a ridiculous post since film on a prospect is readily available all over the internet. Otherwise, nobody would be able to make a sound analysis one way or another on small school prospects. Meanwhile, the Pats still have needs at TE, WR, interior OL, and safety and just threw a 2nd at a guy that's probably not the QB of the future.

As I said in the Draft thread at the time, I'm delighted with the pick. I thought he might creep into the first round so to snag him at the end of second is good value in my eyes. I've been looking for some of my posts about him in the Draft forum but they seem to have disappeared with the board migration (unless Ian can help?) which is a shame, but needless to say I was very high on him. He's run a similar offense to the one that we do and he exhibits the same attributes and characteristics as #12.

The level of competition is a bit of a concern and whilst I love his quick release and feet, he does get a bit sidearm-y at times in his action. He's worked under Tom Martinez though and Brady will groom him well.

I'm incredibly excited at his acquisition and there's not another QB I'd have picked to sit behind Brady. The Garoppolo era is coming.

Brady6 said:

I think what is overlooked is in 2008 we overcame the Brady injury with a seventh round QB, so why not try and do that again if all you are looking for is a backup QB to develop.

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Again - you must have forgotten that 2008 season. We failed to make the playoffs with that 7th round draft pick at QB. On top of that, that backup QB has failed to move into the upper echelon of NFL QBs since.

Why not have a prospect like Gorropolo, who is supposed to have modelled his mechanics after Tom Brady, as your backup? He is definitely more highly regarded than either Matt Cassell or Ryan Mallett was on draft day.

AzorianPats said:

A 7th round qb that had 2-3 years experience in our system.

How this team developed Brady, and looking at what they did with Cassel and even Hoyer, gives me plenty of hope that they can make something of JG. I think even Mallet given the chance could be good. We have no idea what we have in Mallet. He could be just another journeyman QB, or he could be a QB that has the skill to start for half the teams in the league. We honestly have no clue.

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We have a backup QB in Ryan Mallett for 2014, and Hoyer and Cassel are both UFAs after this season so we could have signed one of them to bridge the gap in 2015. You can sit here and argue the pick being a good pick all you want but suggesting it filled an essential need and had to happen is not logical.

betterthanthealternative said:

How many here were predicting that Brady would supplant Bledsoe?

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I have vivid memories of sometimes heated arguments with Bledsoe fans (Bledsholes at the time) who insisted that Bledsoe was better than Brady, even after Brady led our team to it's first Lombardi trophy. I could call one of them (a Pats ST holder) right now and he'd still make that claim.

As soon as I saw Brady play in a game I could tell he was better than Bledsoe. He did just about everything better.

I had 3 QBs with a first round grade: Manziel, Bridgewater, and Garoppolo.

Garoppolo has the quickest release, the best pocket presence, and high accuracy among the QBs in this class. Before people keep complaining, has anyone watched a complete game of this kid? I watched him vs. the playoff loss to Towson and I was impressed.

At 6'2 226, he has a well built NFL QB frame. He also smashed all of Romo's records and has been compared to him as well.

What if he develops into a more competitive, non-choking Romo? If Romo actually had a competitive edge instead of laughing every time he threw a game ending INT, he would probably be right there with Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees.

This pick will be a homerun if we have another top level QB for 10-12 years. Also, give this kid Alabama's offense and they probably win the national title every year. Enough with McCarron who's a borderline draftable talent.

"proving someone wrong...that's what I live for...."

bresna said:

Again - you must have forgotten that 2008 season. We failed to make the playoffs with that 7th round draft pick at QB. On top of that, that backup QB has failed to move into the upper echelon of NFL QBs since.

Why not have a prospect like Gorropolo, who is supposed to have modelled his mechanics after Tom Brady, as your backup? He is definitely more highly regarded than either Matt Cassell or Ryan Mallett was on draft day.

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Gorropolo is not more highly regard then Ryan Mallett was in 2011, he went to a small school and was viewed as a second or third round pick. Ryan Mallett was considered the #1 overall pick in 2011 at the beginning of the draft process, he fell to the third round but you are way off thinking he was not held in high regard.