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People will realize just how important and talented Mankins is once the Patriots place a component Center next to him. I don't mind grooming a replacement and forward planning but Mankins has shown no signs of decline.
 
Then he could be camp competition (and injury protection) for our right side.
LEFT: Solder, Mankins, Kline
CENTER: Wendell,???
RIGHT: Vollmer, Cannon, Joseph

Yes, I'd prefer an OT/OG of better quality in the draft.
 
Your calculation wrong. The saving is the cap hit minus the cost to keep.
You cant compare the sb to the salary, it doesn't work that way.
Hit to keep 10.5
Hit to cut 8

Savings by cutting 2.5

Simple as that.
My calculation wrong. Your calculation right.
 
If Mankins chooses to not re-structure/extend his deal he will not be a Patriot in 2015. I just can't see them keeping a 33 year old OG with an $11mil cap hit. As others have said the $2.5mil cap saving if he is cut in 2014 isn't enough incentive to cut him now, but the $7mil saving in 2015 I think will be. If he isn't willing to work with the team I think its a much easier decision than Wilfork, cut him and move on.
 
If Mankins chooses to not re-structure/extend his deal he will not be a Patriot in 2015. I just can't see them keeping a 33 year old OG with an $11mil cap hit. As others have said the $2.5mil cap saving if he is cut in 2014 isn't enough incentive to cut him now, but the $7mil saving in 2015 I think will be. If he isn't willing to work with the team I think its a much easier decision than Wilfork, cut him and move on.

AND you need the Money to Lock up Solder.
 
FWIW - After June 1 the Pats could save $5.755m on the 2014 cap, $6.49m on the 2015 cap by releasing Mankins. His dead money hit would be 4m in 2014 and 4m in 2015.

After June 1 only this year's signing bonus proration hits the 2014 cap. Future signing bonus prorations hits the 2015 cap.
 
This is a topic I've been pondering for a little bit and was amplified when I read Greg Bedard's mock draft on MMQB:
2014 NFL Mock Draft: What teams should do in the first round | MMQB | Greg A. Bedard


Bedard is usually ahead of the curve on things like this so seeing this comment made my wonder: are the Pats going to put Mankins in the same boat as Wilfork next offseason? Obviously Wilfork's situation was complicated because of his achilles injury last year but there was no way they were going to pay Vince even if he finished last year healthy. A very similar situation is looking to play out with Mankins and the team during the 2015 offseason. See below for Miguel's breakdown of Mankins' deal:
Miguel's Unofficial Patriots Salary Cap Footnotes and Documentation Page - Logan Mankins - PatsCap.com

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Based on Miguel's numbers, it seems as though the Pats stand to gain $7M in cap space in 2015 if they cut Mankins (with him counting $4M against the 2015 cap and nothing against the 2016 cap). Mankins will be 33 years old going into the 2015 season and by my view, hasn't shown significant signs of slowing down. The question will be: do the Patriots view Mankins as an $11M player next year? The rumors are, of course, that the cap will rise beginning next year so that may make the decision a little easier. However, the Pats have a significant of their core players that could hit FA in 2015: (McCourty, Slater, Revis, Gostkowski, Vereen, Ridley, Cannon, etc).

Mankins health and level of play during 2014 will most likely be the determining factor going forward. I would think given Mankins contract history that he will not be receptive to a re-negotiation but a lot can obviously change. Going into Thursday's draft, it will be awfully interesting to see how high the Pats go to draft an OL. As Bedard mentions, the Pats always plan ahead and OL is a position that they haven't invested much draft capital into in the past few years.


Seems as though Bedard may have been on to a little something in one of his mock drafts when he alluded to the "contract issue" the Pats were facing with Mankins.
 
So as of this moment, the OL with the highest cap number is Dan Connolly, at $4M+.

Time for your haircut, Dan. I'm your stylist today. My name is Bill.
 
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