QB Mike Glennon to the Pats?

QB Mike Glennon (Bucs) is on the trading blocks, according to most media outlets.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats ship another late rounder to Bucs for him.
What say you?

I doubt the Bucs ever trade with us again. The new people in charge know their fans will be over scrutinizing of any move made with the Patriots after we screwed them a few times already.

Can you provide links please? I saw the same thing, but on Rant Sports which I dont trust.

BobDigital said:

I doubt the Bucs ever trade with us again. The new people in charge know their fans will be over scrutinizing of any move made with the Patriots after we screwed them a few times already.

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You mean their new GM that worked for Belichick and the Pats for 8 years?

My2Cents said:

QB Mike Glennon (Bucs) is on the trading blocks, according to most media outlets.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats ship another late rounder to Bucs for him.
What say you?

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I saw this a few weeks ago (when it was just speculation) and thought it would be a solid fit, but I think that the Bucs would want at least a third for Glennon. He performed well last season as a starter for a rookie, honestly, I do not understand why Smith is trying to move in a different direction.

I am not sure what any QB in this draft offers in upside that Glennon does not offer the Bucs, and I certainly do not see any advantage to starting a journeyman backup QB like McCown. I understand McCown had a lot of success last season with Chicago but that was an anomaly compared to the rest of his career.

If we did trade Mallett a player we could potentially look to send a seventh round pick to Tampa for is Mike Kafka, he has some experience in our system and could be a bridge backup for a season.

There's a whole bunch of QBs I prefer over Glennon. Unless they're getting a major return on Mallett, I'd rather they just keep Mallett and pick up someone on day 3 to blood for next year.

manxman2601 said:

There's a whole bunch of QBs I prefer over Glennon. Unless they're getting a major return on Mallett, I'd rather they just keep Mallett and pick up someone on day 3 to blood for next year.

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Glennon is an option that gives up a backup through 2016. He should definitely be on the block. It would make sense to trade for him, and to trade Mallett.

mgteich said:

Glennon is an option that gives up a backup through 2016. He should definitely be on the block. It would make sense to trade for him, and to trade Mallett.

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It is very possible that Glennon has more trade value than Ryan Mallett does. Mallet was the #74 overall pick in 2011, Glennon was the #73 overall pick in 2013, Mallett has never started a regular season game, Glennon has started 13 games, and he performed solid for a rookie in them with an 83.9 QB rating on the season.

mgteich said:

Glennon is an option that gives up a backup through 2016. He should definitely be on the block. It would make sense to trade for him, and to trade Mallett.

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I would ask why a) Mallett would bring back more than it would cost to get Glennon and b) why Glennon would be better than a draft pick as a backup QB?

I like Glennon, I don't understand what the Bucs are doing at QB, looks like they are learning from the Raiders how to be stupid. They are paying starter money to McCown who is a veteran who played well a few games last season instead of giving a shot at Glennon or drafting one of the supposed top tier QB's in this draft.

I would stay with Glennon and looking to improve other areas in this draft, they are not in the playoff picture for this next season after that debacle last year, also they play in a hell of a division. They should plan for the long term.

Talking about the Pats, if they somehow manage to trade Mallet and get Glennon on the cheap, we are set at QB for another couple of seasons at least, win win. I really don't wanna draft a QB this year.

A young QuarterBack with a great Arm and dubious Processing Speed, eh?

I told them we've already got one!!

I've been wondering the last day or so about trading partners for the Patriots' pick. Buc's seem possible, if they jump to the end of the 1st round to get their pick in ahead of Hou/Cle or other teams in the 30's who may be hoping to grab a top 4/6 QB.

If the Patriots trade back, it'd be nice to see them end up with TB's #2 pick.

manxman2601 said:

I would ask why a) Mallett would bring back more than it would cost to get Glennon and b) why Glennon would be better than a draft pick as a backup QB?

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I didn't want to start yet another debate on how much Mallett is worth in trade. I agree that Glennon might cost more.

Are you asking why Glennon should be expected to better in 2014 than a 6th or 7th rounder? This is a matter of evaluation by staff, but I would not expect a 6th or 7th rounder to be ready to be productive this year if called upon. With regard to 2015, I think that late rounders are a shot in the dark, and Glennon would likely be better.

If you are talking about the top 8-10 quarterbacks, there is a different discussion. In this case, the idea is to save the 2nd or 3rd rounder one of these players would cost. Personally, I don't think that taking whoever is left at 93 is a particularly good idea. I expect almost all the top 9 to be gone by then, including guys like McCarron and Murray.

The only way you trade Mallett is if you get a 2nd for him, and by all accounts in this forum that will never happen, so there is no reason to trade him and no hole to fill at the back-up QB spot. Belichick isn't going to get rid of Mallett unless the price is right and anything less than a 2nd isn't worth the investment they have made in him, better to just let his deal play out, if he is as worthless as most here believe they can re-sign him for almost nothing.

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Glennon is an option that gives up a backup through 2016. He should definitely be on the block. It would make sense to trade for him, and to trade Mallett.

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I could see the Patriots getting Glennon, and trading Mallett to, say, the Bucs or Falcons, maybe. Ravens, Texans and Lions, could have interest, as well.

Brady6 said:

It is very possible that Glennon has more trade value than Ryan Mallett does. Mallet was the #74 overall pick in 2011, Glennon was the #73 overall pick in 2013, Mallett has never started a regular season game, Glennon has started 13 games, and he performed solid for a rookie in them with an 83.9 QB rating on the season.

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Not meaning to re-open the "how much is Mallett worth" debate, but I think you certainly make a fair point by bringing up the fact that Mike Glennon's name bring thrown in the trade ring (along with the possibility of Kirk Cousins) may make Mallett's worth a bit less. It's just more competition from other QBs with upside who were taken in the middle rounds and have proven to be NFL starters at times.

I personally don't see any reason whatsoever to believe that Mallett would bring back more in compensation than Glennon, as you point out. The only difference could be if Bill O'Brien was nearly as interested as some have suggested. That could make the familiarity a fit. We'll know for sure when this weekend is over, so we can finally put it to rest one way or another. As a Ryan Mallett fan, I loved the selection, and I like him as our backup. I just don't think he's shown anyone enough to warrant anything more than a 3rd/4th round pick right now, and that leaves us with a big hole at an important position.

With Glennon, there's sufficient tape on him, and he looked fairly decent at times for a pure rookie on a terrible team.It would seem that he has some decent upside, especially with the right coach and vet QB in front of him.

As far as us trading for Glennon, I have to agree with you that Tampa Bay just isn't going to give him away, as the OP suggests a bit. If he could be had for a late rounder, it'd be a no-brainer for sure.

supafly said:

Not meaning to re-open the "how much is Mallett worth" debate, but I think you certainly make a fair point by bringing up the fact that Mike Glennon's name bring thrown in the trade ring (along with the possibility of Kirk Cousins) may make Mallett's worth a bit less. It's just more competition from other QBs with upside who were taken in the middle rounds and have proven to be NFL starters at times.

I personally don't see any reason whatsoever to believe that Mallett would bring back more in compensation than Glennon, as you point out. The only difference could be if Bill O'Brien was nearly as interested as some have suggested. That could make the familiarity a fit. We'll know for sure when this weekend is over, so we can finally put it to rest one way or another. As a Ryan Mallett fan, I loved the selection, and I like him as our backup. I just don't think he's shown anyone enough to warrant anything more than a 3rd/4th round pick right now, and that leaves us with a big hole at an important position.

With Glennon, there's sufficient tape on him, and he looked fairly decent at times for a pure rookie on a terrible team.It would seem that he has some decent upside, especially with the right coach and vet QB in front of him.

As far as us trading for Glennon, I have to agree with you that Tampa Bay just isn't going to give him away, as the OP suggests a bit. If he could be had for a late rounder, it'd be a no-brainer for sure.

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In my opinion, there is only one team that could be interested in Mallett and that is Houston, and only if Bill O’Brien sees something in Mallett that he wants badly. Other teams with no background on Mallett I think would be more interested in Glennon or Cousins because at least they have some game experience/tape to look at.

I would not trade Mallett for less than #65 from Houston otherwise I would just have him play out the remainder of his contract and see what his value looks like on the UFA market, hoping for a compensatory draft pick in 2016.

Brady6 said:

In my opinion, there is only one team that could be interested in Mallett and that is Houston, and only if Bill O’Brien sees something in Mallett that he wants badly. Other teams with no background on Mallett I think would be more interested in Glennon or Cousins because at least they have some game experience/tape to look at.

I would not trade Mallett for less than #65 from Houston otherwise I would just have him play out the remainder of his contract and see what his value looks like on the UFA market, hoping for a compensatory draft pick in 2016.

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I agree with what your holding point would be in regards to trading Mallett. Anything less than 65 wouldn't make much sense in my opinion, and I would think that 65 would be the most realistic range as well.

I wouldn't expect much in the comp pick formula myself, if Mallett leaves in the spring next year via free agency. Just my opinion.