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Teddy Bridgewater's falling stock.


If Bridgewater does fall and we draft him. Do we trade Mallet and grab another 3rd? I wouldn't be opposed since its a deep draft.
 
The QB drops back...1....2...3...he hits the receiver in stride. We have one of those. AFC Champ game...the one we HAVE , drops back...1....2...smashed in the face by a bullrush through the A gap. WE NEED A CENTER. A physically talented, young anchor. A player who can kick Wendell in his azz and make him sit the bench as a backup. DELIVER the blow, don't take it. We have punching bags for inside O linemen and it has to be rectified.
I see, Joker, you've continued your mastery of hyperbole. Ya see, here's the problem with adding a C too high (especially in the first 2 rounds). You can't be sure he's going to be any better than what we have now. Any C we draft this season will likely be a developmental guy for next year or beyond.

No don't get me wrong, I'd like to draft a guy who can play C or G, but not before the 3rd round. As I've said #1 is for the DL, #2 is for a TE
 
I see, Joker, you've continued your mastery of hyperbole. Ya see, here's the problem with adding a C too high (especially in the first 2 rounds). You can't be sure he's going to be any better than what we have now. Any C we draft this season will likely be a developmental guy for next year or beyond.

No don't get me wrong, I'd like to draft a guy who can play C or G, but not before the 3rd round. As I've said #1 is for the DL, #2 is for a TE

While I agree with your draft round priorities remember that our last starting center Koppen from BC was drafted round 5 and started his first season. I like trading down in the 1st if this is really a deep draft. Then using 6th & 7th late picks to trade up in the 3rd or 4th, maybe even using a 3rd or 4th from 2015 to do so.
 
Thanks. That you're posting this makes me feel better than ever about Bridgewater.
In that case, promise me you'll still be around in a couple of years so I can throw a big fat "I told you so" your way.
 
Maybe this is not the right thread for this question, but is this that deep of a draft? Where's the center's, tackes, DE's? I see a good number of WR's, DT's, a decent class of QB's, an ok number of TE's...it's a good draft no doubt, but I think people are going too much on this expecting to find in the 4th round of this draft a 1st round pick in other years...

I see a very rich 1st round and the normal fall in the second, still good but not a 2 first rounds in day one and two.

That said we should use our 1st round pick like it should be used any other 1st round pick, in a player who can start from day one, adding value to the team. If he can fill a need even better, and we have plenty of needs.
 
The only way I'd agree with that would be if an Orphan Black clone of Andrew Luck in this year's draft slipped to 29. Otherwise fuggataboutit.

Off topic, PWP--but is that show any good? I keep hearing about it lately, but haven't watched yet.
 
Orphan Black is totally awesome. Season 2 started last night. Comcast has season one, etc. on Demand. Amazon also has the show. You gotta start at the beginning.
 
I think he will slide into the 2nd or even 3rd. You can't listen to the idiots on ESPN like Jaws and Gruden. Have they ever really been down on a QB? Being from Kentucky, I've seen some of his games. He is NOT an NFL QB in my opinion. He doesn't possess a strong arm, his timing is not very good, and Louisville doesn't play any real high level defenses. If some knucklehead GM drafts him in the first, he deserves to be fired.
 
Orphan Black is totally awesome. Season 2 started last night. Comcast has season one, etc. on Demand. Amazon also has the show. You gotta start at the beginning.

Thanks for the review. I have heard good things and will check it out for sure. The fact that it's currently on demand for season one is a nice bonus.
 
Id take teddy at 29. Rookie contracts are cheap enough to carry him.

There's only 1 catch, BB has to 100% believe he his Brady's successor or else it's a wasted pick.

gb 100% believed Rodgers would be favres successor, or they wouldn't of taken him.
 
Id take teddy at 29. Rookie contracts are cheap enough to carry him.

There's only 1 catch, BB has to 100% believe he his Brady's successor or else it's a wasted pick.

gb 100% believed Rodgers would be favres successor, or they wouldn't of taken him.

Just not seeing the value myself, although others may feel differently.

I'd much rather choose Aaron Murray, Zack Mettenberger, or even AJ McCarron in the next couple/few rounds after the first. I'm not seeing Teddy Bridgewater as some great QB. I think he's athletic, sure; but I don't see the need to spend a 1st round pick on the chance that he's going to be some great thing.

Any of the other choices that I listed could/could not work out, and we'd have wasted a lot less than a 1st round pick.
 
In that case, promise me you'll still be around in a couple of years so I can throw a big fat "I told you so" your way.
What, exactly, makes you think I'll be doing that? The comparison you made between Bridgewater and Russell is LOLworthy at best on multiple levels.
 
What, exactly, makes you think I'll be doing that? The comparison you made between Bridgewater and Russell is LOLworthy at best on multiple levels.
Someone compared Bridgewater to Jamarcus Russell? Good grief.
 
Someone compared Bridgewater to Jamarcus Russell? Good grief.
Yup. I literally facepalmed in real life when I read that. It's a terrible comparison, not just on the field but off of it as well.
 
Just not seeing the value myself, although others may feel differently.

I'd much rather choose Aaron Murray, Zack Mettenberger, or even AJ McCarron in the next couple/few rounds after the first. I'm not seeing Teddy Bridgewater as some great QB. I think he's athletic, sure; but I don't see the need to spend a 1st round pick on the chance that he's going to be some great thing.

Any of the other choices that I listed could/could not work out, and we'd have wasted a lot less than a 1st round pick.

I see Bridgewater as a bust also.
 
If Bridgewater does fall and we draft him. Do we trade Mallet and grab another 3rd? I wouldn't be opposed since its a deep draft.
I just can not see a team giving up a 3rd round pick for Mallet, maybe a forth but a late pick seems the most likely, remember the team could not get anything for Hoyer and he had more game experience.
 
I think he will slide into the 2nd or even 3rd. You can't listen to the idiots on ESPN like Jaws and Gruden. Have they ever really been down on a QB? Being from Kentucky, I've seen some of his games. He is NOT an NFL QB in my opinion. He doesn't possess a strong arm, his timing is not very good, and Louisville doesn't play any real high level defenses. If some knucklehead GM drafts him in the first, he deserves to be fired.
who is an NFL QB in this draft class then?
 
who is an NFL QB in this draft class then?

That's a great question. All of the top rated QBs have huge question marks. Indianapolis was extremely fortunate to have Andrew Luck sitting there after they went through their Manning transition. The Texans have no such opportunity.
 
Here's the problem with Bridgewater, and its NOT the bad pro day.

1. Most important is the position he plays. Tom Brady is going to be the starter here for the next 3 seasons. It makes no sense to pick a player who is unlikely to see the field for 3 years with a #1 pick. C'mon guys Lets be reasonable here.

2. The Pats have needs in other areas that would preclude taking a player, even one who would be worthy of the pick, that you'd have no expectation of contributing other than holding a clip board and keeping TB company at the QB meetings. DT, TE, DB, OL, etc. Hell, I'd take a WR at 29 before I'd take a QB. ;)

3. While I don't care about a bad pro day, I still have some reservations about Bridgewater's size and body type. He isn't skinny like TB in 2001. This guy is Twiggy skinny. Well OK that was hyperbolic, but you know what I mean. This kid is carbo loading just to get to 200. Its not a major reason to discount him, but one nonetheless....especially for a team with the Pats current QB situation.

4. What do you do with Ryan Mallett. BB obviously thinks he's a capable back up. If you keep him for another year, and he leaves, you at least have a great shot at a high comp pick. If you pick Bridgewater at 29 you'd be either forced to release Mallett, trade him for a low round pick, or have Bridgewater be the #3 QB for a season.

Teams would never trade for a QB, when they know a team eventually has to release him. At best it would be a very bad "seller's market".

5. Next year will be the time to start considering drafting Brady's replacement. Newsflash - QB's WILL be available. But for THIS year, anything before the 6th round would be too early to pick up a QB, IMHO


1. Most important is the position he plays. Tom Brady is going to be the starter here for the next 3 seasons. It makes no sense to pick a player who is unlikely to see the field for 3 years with a #1 pick. C'mon guys Lets be reasonable here.


Sorry Ken. You are dreaming. The end is coming for both Peyton and Tom and it is NOT three years or more away. Both have visibly lost some talent. Peyton's arm is nowhere what it used to be. He floats his passes now.

Both are getting by with experience and wile now, But for how much longer?

Tom's long accuracy, never great to start with is visibly declining, as is his pocket shuffling mobility. Credit some of his declining completion percentage to the new receivers last season, if you wish; but the reality is still it was below 60% and his QB rating was only mediocre.

No one wants to say it but Time waits for no man.
 


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