The 2014 Mock draft Thread.

zimmy · Apr 4, 2014

One month to go draft:

29-Marqise Lee WR
62-Jeremiah Attaochu LB/DE
93 Lache Seastrunk RB
130 Trai Turner G
140 Tom Savage QB
198 Joe Don Duncan TE
206 Kevin Pierre Louis LB
244 Eathyn Manumaleuna DT

After free agency there are very few holes left on the roster which allows us more or less to take the best player available. If Lee is available at 29 he would be too good to pass up. Attaochu is one of the best pass rushers in the draft and would offer some depth at both LB and DE. It looks like we will take a RB in the draft now and Seastrunk would be another pass catching RB that we need. I think we look at QB in the draft and then potentially trade Mallett during training camp/end of pre season. We also pick up some depth at G, TE, coverage LB and DT.

Bill always slightly surprises and I think 5 out of the 6 picks on offense would be a slight surprise but we still hit our biggest needs on defense with a coverage backer and key DE/OLB depth. In another draft I could just as easily see the pick at 29 being a defensive lineman however and I'd stick with the other picks.

KDPPatsfan85 · Apr 4, 2014

My Patriots 7 Round Mock Draft...
29. Traded to Texans for #33, #141, #177, 2015 6th
33. Ryan Shazier OLB Ohio State
62. Troy Niklas TE Notre Dame
93. Travis Swanson C Arkansas
130. Craig Loston SS LSU
140. (COMP) Caraun Reid DT Princeton
141.(From Texans) Khairi Fortt OLB Cal
177.(From Texans) Tom Savage QB Pittsburgh
198. Aaron Lynch DE USF
206. Chris Watt OG Notre Dame
244. James Wilder, Jr. RB Florida State

Yes, Ryan Mallett was not traded. I am avoiding that trade scenario from now on because I think it wont happen.

BelichickFan · Apr 5, 2014

zimmy said:
One month to go draft:

29-Marqise Lee WR
62-Jeremiah Attaochu LB/DE
93 Lache Seastrunk RB
130 Trai Turner G
140 Tom Savage QB
198 Joe Don Duncan TE
206 Kevin Pierre Louis LB
244 Eathyn Manumaleuna DT

After free agency there are very few holes left on the roster which allows us more or less to take the best player available. If Lee is available at 29 he would be too good to pass up. Attaochu is one of the best pass rushers in the draft and would offer some depth at both LB and DE. It looks like we will take a RB in the draft now and Seastrunk would be another pass catching RB that we need. I think we look at QB in the draft and then potentially trade Mallett during training camp/end of pre season. We also pick up some depth at G, TE, coverage LB and DT.

Bill always slightly surprises and I think 5 out of the 6 picks on offense would be a slight surprise but we still hit our biggest needs on defense with a coverage backer and key DE/OLB depth. In another draft I could just as easily see the pick at 29 being a defensive lineman however and I'd stick with the other picks.

I'm with you on this - not so much what I want but what I expect.

I think #29 will be a WR and Lee will be a strong contender.
#62 Bill could throw the defense a bone.
3rd round and both 4ths I expect a TE, RB, QB. No names yet but those positions are deep enough there will be several good choices.

ATippett56 · Apr 5, 2014

2014 New England Patriots Mock Draft - 4/5/14

Straight Up - No Screwing Around

Round 1 - Ryan Shazier, OLB - Ohio State (29)

Round 2 - Westin Richburg, OC - Colorado State (57) or Joel Bitonio, OG/OT - Nevada (58)

Round 3 - Justin Ellis, DT - Louisiana Tech (102)

Round 4 - Arthur Lynch, TE - Georgia (128)

Round 4 Compensatory - Tyler Gaffney, RB - Stanford (153)

Round 6 - Marqueston Huff, FS - Wyoming (202) or Brock Vereen, SS - Minnesota (205)

Round 6 - Marion Grice, RB - Arizona State (218)

Round 7 - Trey Millard, FB - Oklahoma (239) or Gator Hoskins, FB - Marshall (265)

Parenthesis - NFLDraftScout Overall Rankings dated 4/4/2014

NFL Draft - 2014 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Note: Multiple selections depends on availability

Collegiate UDFAs (potential diamonds in the rough):

Lorenzo Taliaferro, RB - Coastal Carolina (289)
Senorise Perry, RB - Louisville (423)
Alex Bayer, TE - Bowling Green (316)
Ted Bolser, TE - Indiana (332)
Quincy Enunwa, WR - Nebraska (280)
Austin Wentworth, OG - Fresno State (370)
Colton Underwood, DE - Illinois State (396)
Terrence Fede, DE - Marist (429)
Bruce Gaston, DT - Purdue (305)
Zach Kerr, DT - Delaware (326)
Chris Young, ILB - Arizona State (371)
Marquis Flowers, OLB - Arizona (273)
Anthony Hitchens, OLB - Iowa (374)
Xavius Boyd, OLB - Western Kentucky (391)
Jonathan Dowling, FS - Western Kentucky (284)
Dexter McDougle, CB - Maryland (301)
Brandon Dixon, CB - Northwest Missouri State (345)
Keith Reaser, CB - Florida Atlantic (367)

Unrestricted Free Agent Acquisitions:

Michael Hoomanawanui
Julian Edelman
Brandon LaFell
Ryan Wendell
Will Svitek
Brandon Browner
Darrelle Revis
Patrick Chung (ugh!)

Salary Cap Casualties:

Isaac Sopoaga
Steve Gregory
Adrian Wilson

NFI List (to be "redshirted" for the 2014 NFL Season):

Trey Millard

rdf63 · Apr 5, 2014

Brady6 said:
Trade Ryan Mallett to the Texans for pick #33
Trade pick #33 to the Rams for picks #44 and #75

29-RaShede Hageman, DL
44-Scott Crichton, DL
62-Joel Bitonio, OL
75-Telvin Smith, LB
93-C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE
130-Jerick McKinnon, RB
140-Cody Latimer, WR
198-Tyler Larsen, OL
206-Connor Shaw, QB
244-Gator Hoskins, FB

Like these choices and the Patriots need to focus on their biggest weakness which is stopping the run.
29 - RaShede Hageman, DL - has the talent to solidify the line. Reminds me a lot of former Pat Richard Seymour. We badly need size and strength at DL.
44-Scott Crichton, DL - Real physical player Good size, weight and a high speed motor.
62-Joel Bitonio, OL - A lot like Logan Mankins. Civil Engineering major in college so he his bright and a hard worker. Very nasty player.
75-Telvin Smith, LB - Really think Christian Jones LB may be better at this pick. Durability at ILB. OLB and DE at his size shows a lot.
93-C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE - Great choice and I am very weary of the Gronk and his long-term future.

BobDigital · Apr 5, 2014

Assuming no picks from a future trade and no picks from a mallet trade.

#29 - (no one is here who demands to be taken... didn't fall our way) - TRADE BACK for a #37 #101
#37 - Tuitt - DE/DT
#62 - Easley - DT (I think it is gonna fall this way for us. Just so many people talking about the WRs and TEs I think they are all gone by 62 but allow D prospects to fall).
#74 - Richberg - C
-TRADE #101 & #130 for 74
#93 - Tripp - OLB
#140 - Jake Murphy - TE (this seems like a reach now but he has moved up the board steadily and come draft day this will be considered pretty good value I think)
#198 - Morgan Breslin - OLB/DE
#206 - Marion Grice - RB (I will mock this RB for once if Thomas goes to high. A very good pass catcher too which we could use as a depth RB
#244 - Vinnie Sunseri - SS

EwanSellars · Apr 6, 2014

mock draft april 6
trade mallett to Vikings for #40
#29 Ryan Shazier OLB
a great athlete that I've always loved, seems explosive and always seems to be making plays can fill the LB/S but can do a ton of other things as well
#40 Austin Sefarian Jenkins TE
my personal favorite TE prospect in the draft although I haven't watched a lot of Ebron big target that seems to pluck balls out of the air him and Gronk could be a pairing just as good as Gronk and the inmate were a couple of years ago
#62 Dominique Easley DT
some people say he's not a patriot pick but i disagree, Easley is an explosive, disruptive DT with DE flexibility that could be a headache for offensive lineman to deal with a front four with jones, Easley, Armstead and Ninkovich is scary to think about for me
#93 Bitonio/richburg OL
Either of these guys works for me I think both would be instant starters for us and would be great for protecting Brady, Richburg is more likely to be there at 93 but if neither of them (or a similiar OG/C) my pick would be Jackson Jeffcoat, I see Jeffcoat as one of the most underrated players in this draft and think he would be a great contributor to give jones and Nink breaks and could also be a pass rushing specialist
#130 Cody Latimer WR
This guy has had a late rise recently but since the class is so deep he could drop and I hope he does. I think Latimer has as much potential if not more than Dobson. There's so much to love about Latimer and not a lot to dislike and with such a deep WR draft the value here is immense
#140 Caraun Reid DT
I've always loved this guy I think he is disruptive, has great size and went to Princeton which leaves me to assume he's pretty smart. Another option here is Antone Exum who a lot of people love, wouldn't mind the pick at all just love Reid
#198 Matt Patchan OL
big guy from BC and we need some depth on the offensive line another possible pick that I like here is Jeff Janis WR but we already have a lot of WRs and adding Latimer means there is no need for another one.
#206 De'Anthony Thomas RB/WR/KR
explosive, versatile and incredible I've loved Thomas for a while and can't help but imagine the black mamba on screens and kickoffs in a patriots uniform
#244 Colt Lyerla TE
absurd talent can't pass up the possibility of Lyerla, ASJ and Gronk on one team its music to my ears, probably no better talent level than this guy this late gotta get him

UDFA
Trey millard
Cornelius Lucas
Blake Annen
Spencer Long
Larry webster
Andrew Jackson
Gabe Ikard
Gator Hoskins
Ben Gardner
Ryan carrethers
Jonathan Dowling
Tyler Starr
Lorenzo Taliaferro
Vinnie Sunseri
Jonathan Brown
Zach Kerr
Nikita Whitlock
Rob Blanchflower
Bryn Renner
Jeremy Gallon
Terrence Fede

dryheat44 · Apr 6, 2014

EwanSellars said:
mock draft april 6
trade mallett to Vikings for #40
#29 Ryan Shazier OLB
a great athlete that I've always loved, seems explosive and always seems to be making plays can fill the LB/S but can do a ton of other things as well
#40 Austin Sefarian Jenkins TE
my personal favorite TE prospect in the draft although I haven't watched a lot of Ebron big target that seems to pluck balls out of the air him and Gronk could be a pairing just as good as Gronk and the inmate were a couple of years ago
#62 Dominique Easley DT
some people say he's not a patriot pick but i disagree, Easley is an explosive, disruptive DT with DE flexibility that could be a headache for offensive lineman to deal with a front four with jones, Easley, Armstead and Ninkovich is scary to think about for me
#93 Bitonio/richburg OL
Either of these guys works for me I think both would be instant starters for us and would be great for protecting Brady, Richburg is more likely to be there at 93 but if neither of them (or a similiar OG/C) my pick would be Jackson Jeffcoat, I see Jeffcoat as one of the most underrated players in this draft and think he would be a great contributor to give jones and Nink breaks and could also be a pass rushing specialist
#130 Cody Latimer WR
This guy has had a late rise recently but since the class is so deep he could drop and I hope he does. I think Latimer has as much potential if not more than Dobson. There's so much to love about Latimer and not a lot to dislike and with such a deep WR draft the value here is immense
#140 Caraun Reid DT
I've always loved this guy I think he is disruptive, has great size and went to Princeton which leaves me to assume he's pretty smart. Another option here is Antone Exum who a lot of people love, wouldn't mind the pick at all just love Reid
#198 Matt Patchan OL
big guy from BC and we need some depth on the offensive line another possible pick that I like here is Jeff Janis WR but we already have a lot of WRs and adding Latimer means there is no need for another one.
#206 De'Anthony Thomas RB/WR/KR
explosive, versatile and incredible I've loved Thomas for a while and can't help but imagine the black mamba on screens and kickoffs in a patriots uniform
#244 Colt Lyerla TE
absurd talent can't pass up the possibility of Lyerla, ASJ and Gronk on one team its music to my ears, probably no better talent level than this guy this late gotta get him

UDFA
Trey millard
Cornelius Lucas
Blake Annen
Spencer Long
Larry webster
Andrew Jackson
Gabe Ikard
Gator Hoskins
Ben Gardner
Ryan carrethers
Jonathan Dowling
Tyler Starr
Lorenzo Taliaferro
Vinnie Sunseri
Jonathan Brown
Zach Kerr
Nikita Whitlock
Rob Blanchflower
Bryn Renner
Jeremy Gallon
Terrence Fede

This is the part where I ask, given the assumption that a team has an internal agent bent on making terrible personnel decisions and kidnaps the General Manager and trades a valuable pick for a player that hasn't played a meaningful snap in three years and wasn't regarded as a top 40 pick before that in an attempt to get the GM fired and subsequently laughed out of the league so he doesn't have to compete with him for future job openings,

Who is our backup quarterback?

It seems that on the one hand, BB has established Mallett's value to the team as roughly the same as a journeyman or undrafted QB, since that would be his replacement, while at the same, able to convince a team to give up a high second round pick for him.

I'm OK with the thought that Belichick is the smartest GM out there, but not with the thought that he can pull off a Jedi mind trick.

Jimke · Apr 6, 2014

dryheat44 said:
This is the part where I ask, given the assumption that a team has an internal agent bent on making terrible personnel decisions and kidnaps the General Manager and trades a valuable pick for a player that hasn't played a meaningful snap in three years and wasn't regarded as a top 40 pick before that in an attempt to get the GM fired and subsequently laughed out of the league so he doesn't have to compete with him for future job openings,

Who is our backup quarterback?

It seems that on the one hand, BB has established Mallett's value to the team as roughly the same as a journeyman or undrafted QB, since that would be his replacement, while at the same, able to convince a team to give up a high second round pick for him.

I'm OK with the thought that Belichick is the smartest GM out there, but not with the thought that he can pull off a Jedi mind trick.

It would be more realistic if we trade Mallett for the 184th pick.

BelichickFan · Apr 6, 2014

dryheat44 said:
Who is our backup quarterback?

It seems that on the one hand, BB has established Mallett's value to the team as roughly the same as a journeyman or undrafted QB, since that would be his replacement, while at the same, able to convince a team to give up a high second round pick for him.

Not wanting to turn this into a Mallett thread but obviously we'd need to get a backup, we could probably get a veteran who could learn the system well enough. Veteran QBs can do that.

As for his value, Mettenberger is being talked about as a high #2; he and Mallett are similar in almost every way as players (and off field issues coming out). Mallett would need a new contract sooner but he's much more ready to play and not coming off a torn ACL.

dryheat44 · Apr 6, 2014

BelichickFan said:
Not wanting to turn this into a Mallett thread but obviously we'd need to get a backup, we could probably get a veteran who could learn the system well enough. Veteran QBs can do that.

As for his value, Mettenberger is being talked about as a high #2; he and Mallett are similar in almost every way as players (and off field issues coming out). Mallett would need a new contract sooner but he's much more ready to play and not coming off a torn ACL.

Give me a name. All the decent vet backup types have already been snatched up. And there's none who have spent any time with McDaniels that aren't named Tim Tebow.

There is a Polian train of thought that says if we lose our starter we're done, so who GAS who the backup is. I'm not one of those people. After all Brady was the definition of Competent Backup in 2001, and it worked out OK. Much like 2008, if Brady went down, I'd still expect to compete for a Super Bowl.

Mettenberger won't go early second, but let's pretend he will. 1. He's played meaningful football in the past three years, and 2. A team can work him out physically and mentally, and if they determine he's worth a 2nd round pick, they can draft him and get him for 3 or 4 years on a rookie deal, as opposed to trading a pick for Mallett, sight unseen, and have to spend starter's money on his next contract.

As much as we don't want to believe it, professional athletes are not fine wine. They aren't drafted in the third round, not play for three years, and see their value increase. Osmosis isn't that powerful.

Yes, yes -- I can follow the bouncing ball -- Mallett was a first round talent who fell to the third round because of off-field issues, which he now has eliminated by virtue of working in Foxboro.

Bull. QBs with first round talent are drafted in the first round, not passed over three times by every team in favor of the Blaine Gabberts and Christian Ponders of the world. If Mallett was a Lions or Bengals backup we wouldn't think so highly of him. Nobody would dare mock him going to the Texans or Vikings for a high 2nd rounder, because it's illogical.

BelichickFan · Apr 6, 2014

dryheat44 said:
Mettenberger won't go early second, but let's pretend he will. 1. He's played meaningful football in the past three years, and 2. A team can work him out physically and mentally, and if they determine he's worth a 2nd round pick, they can draft him and get him for 3 or 4 years on a rookie deal, as opposed to trading a pick for Mallett, sight unseen, and have to spend starter's money on his next contract.

As much as we don't want to believe it, professional athletes are not fine wine. They aren't drafted in the third round, not play for three years, and see their value increase. Osmosis isn't that powerful.

Yes, yes -- I can follow the bouncing ball -- Mallett was a first round talent who fell to the third round because of off-field issues, which he now has eliminated by virtue of working in Foxboro.

Bull. QBs with first round talent are drafted in the first round, not passed over three times by every team in favor of the Blaine Gabberts and Christian Ponders of the world. If Mallett was a Lions or Bengals backup we wouldn't think so highly of him. Nobody would dare mock him going to the Texans or Vikings for a high 2nd rounder, because it's illogical.

I won't get drawn into the argument, we'll see down the road about Mallett because he'll be a UFA in 11 months and someone will sign him to starter's money. But he was a first round talent - Cincy came close to taking him at the top of the 2nd over Dalton - and getting into no trouble in 3 years does make a difference.

Metteberger gets a lot of talk to Minnesota in the high 2nd, we'll see if that materializes.

manxman2601 · Apr 6, 2014

dryheat44 said:
Bull. QBs with first round talent are drafted in the first round, not passed over three times by every team in favor of the Blaine Gabberts and Christian Ponders of the world. If Mallett was a Lions or Bengals backup we wouldn't think so highly of him. Nobody would dare mock him going to the Texans or Vikings for a high 2nd rounder, because it's illogical.

I bet the Jags wish they'd picked JJ Watt, went one pick after Gabbert, and drafted Ryan Mallett instead of going for the "Blaine Gabberts and Christian Ponders".

I agree that we're most likely not trading Mallett and I expect we'll carry three QBs next season.

BelichickFan · Apr 6, 2014

manxman2601 said:
I agree that we're most likely not trading Mallett and I expect we'll carry three QBs next season.

I fully expect to keep Mallett, draft a #3 who will elevate to #2 next year. It's the perfect transition. Unfortunately it will open the doors to the "Mallett is worthless" diatribe that won't be disproved until we see what he gets on the open market.

manxman2601 · Apr 6, 2014

BelichickFan said:
I fully expect to keep Mallett, draft a #3 who will elevate to #2 next year. It's the perfect transition. Unfortunately it will open the doors to the "Mallett is worthless" diatribe that won't be disproved until we see what he gets on the open market.

Mallett has been "worth" enough to us that we wouldn't trade him for chump change and have given him an important role on the roster. That's all the "worth" that counts to be honest.

patfanken · Apr 6, 2014

Ultimately its looking more and more that the Pats best outcome with Mallett will be that after this season, he signs with a new team in 2015 and starts. That way the Pats could get a late 3rd round comp pick from us. Taking a low ball pick now or early next season would be a waste of a 3rd round opportunity

As for the question of, did we get value from the pick? I'd say we did fine. Having Mallett not only gave us 3 years of a low cost back up QB, the confidence the team had in him, allowed us to carry only 2 QB's the last 3 years. How can you consider him a bad pick when for 4 years he did the the job he was asked to do very well.

BelichickFan · Apr 6, 2014

patfanken said:
As for the question of, did we get value from the pick? I'd say we did fine. Having Mallett not only gave us 3 years of a low cost back up QB, the confidence the team had in him, allowed us to carry only 2 QB's the last 3 years. How can you consider him a bad pick when for 4 years he did the the job he was asked to do very well.

A good backup QB is like an insurance policy. You hope you don't get value. Worst case Mallett will have been a great insurance policy that went unused and maybe we'll get a comp pick depending on how active we are in FA.

If I were Houston (O'Brien) or Minnesota (Mallett perfect for Norv Turner), I'd think hard about trading my #2 for Mallett if I'm planning to draft a Mettenberger or Garapalo in the second round.

And if I'm New England I'd see if I could sweeten the pot slightly by adding Amendola like we added Vrabel to Cassell. Houston could draft Clowney and still end up with Mallett at QB, Johnson, Hopkins, Amendola at TE under my scenario coming out of the second round. Not bad.

Brady6 · Apr 6, 2014

Mike Reiss is seems to think Mallett is worthless in a trade; he did not reference any sources for this conclusion so I am not sure how it was formed.

New England Patriots Rumors: Ryan Mallett worth a 'late-round pick at best' - NFL Spin Zone - A General NFL Blog providing you all the NFL News, Rumors, Updates, and National Football League News.

zimmy · Apr 6, 2014

I think we keep Mallett for the year. His value for us now is greater than his trade value (mid-lower round pick) but his value could go up tremendously if a team loses their starter in pre-season/early season. I could then see a team come calling with a higher pick.

Brady6 · Apr 6, 2014

My first mock without a Mallett trade involved.

Trade #29 to the Jaguars for #39, #105, and #114

39-Scott Crichton, DL (#43)
62-Joel Bitonio, OL (#58)
93-C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE (#105)
105-Justin Ellis, DL (#102)
114-Christian Kirksey, LB (#116)
130-Charles Sims, RB (#129)
140-Antone Exum, DB (#148)
198-Logan Thomas, QB/TE (#258)
206-Kadeem Edwards, OL (#225)
244-Gator Hoskins, FB (#265)

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