A. J. McCarron as the Heir Apparent for Brady

Ivan said:

Say what you want about McElroy but he actually beat out a former first rounder when Sanchez went down, and he at least may still be a viable back up for NFL teams.

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Demosthenes said:

Dude, if you actually think that McElroy "beat out" anyone when Sanchez went down, then you really aren't that bright. Such a belief seriously calls your judgment into question.

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He's referring to his obsession Tim Tebow.

manxman2601 said:

He's referring to his obsession Tim Tebow.

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Who's ? Mine or Ivan's ?


FWIW, I try to keep "he who must not be named" out of threads that have nothing to do with him. Pity that guys like Ivan don't.

Demosthenes said:

Who's ? Mine or Ivan's ?


FWIW, I try to keep "he who must not be named" out of threads that have nothing to do with him. Pity that guys like Ivan don't.

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I'm not getting involved. Until such time as he's re-signed by us, I'm out of the Tebow business.

manxman2601 said:

I'm not getting involved. Until such time as he's re-signed by us, I'm out of the Tebow business.

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Nothing to be involved in my friend. The subject shouldn't even have been introduced into this thread in the first place.

TB=TD said:

It will soon be the age of Mobile QBs and I want this team to be ahead of that curb not behind.

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People have been saying that for about 30 years. Mobile QBs will never thrive in the NFL because they can't stay healthy. Don't get me wrong, we will still see the occasional mobile QB come and go, but it will never achieve widespread appeal.

SB39 said:

People have been saying that for about 30 years. Mobile QBs will never thrive in the NFL because they can't stay healthy. Don't get me wrong, we will still see the occasional mobile QB come and go, but it will never achieve widespread appeal.

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^ this

The wildcat came and went. The read option came and went....just like I said it would.

Mobile QB's who can't pass won't be long for success in this league. Now I think it's beneficial for a QB to extend plays with his legs like a Roethlisberger or Wilson , but the bottom line is this is a passing league where good passers succeed and mediocre passers don't. And that ain't changing any time soon. Period.

TB=TD View Post
It will soon be the age of Mobile QBs and I want this team to be ahead of that curb not behind.

anybody can get ahead of the curb...it's a stationary piece of rock in the road...I believe CURVE is the word you are looking for...

ahead of the curve literally refers to your position on the statistical bell curve, where the top of the curve represents the median, average result. By being ahead of the curve you represent the top percentile of results that either has the advanced skills or understanding that sets you apart.

Joker said:

TB=TD View Post
It will soon be the age of Mobile QBs and I want this team to be ahead of that curb not behind.

anybody can get ahead of the curb...it's a stationary piece of rock in the road...I believe CURVE is the word you are looking for...

ahead of the curve literally refers to your position on the statistical bell curve, where the top of the curve represents the median, average result. By being ahead of the curve you represent the top percentile of results that either has the advanced skills or understanding that sets you apart.

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Thank you very much for the grammatical lesson. I hope to purchase volumes 2 through 100 on ebay next week.

TB=TD said:

Thank you very much for the grammatical lesson. I hope to purchase volumes 2 through 100 on ebay next week.

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We're trying hard to run a tight grammar ship.

SB39 said:

People have been saying that for about 30 years. Mobile QBs will never thrive in the NFL because they can't stay healthy. Don't get me wrong, we will still see the occasional mobile QB come and go, but it will never achieve widespread appeal.

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sb1 said:

^ this

The wildcat came and went. The read option came and went....just like I said it would.

Mobile QB's who can't pass won't be long for success in this league. Now I think it's beneficial for a QB to extend plays with his legs like a Roethlisberger or Wilson , but the bottom line is this is a passing league where good passers succeed and mediocre passers don't. And that ain't changing any time soon. Period.

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I'll disagree. I think the demographics will indeed lead to a change. More and more college teams are going to spread option type systems. One of the main reasons is that you can be very good without having a "franchise" type pocket passing QB. QBs like Andrew Luck are once in a generation. Guys not quite up to his level are still few and far between. It's worth noting that Luck was 1-2 against Oregon teams fielding vastly inferior QBs (according to traditional standards).

I think there will come a time where teams will go with 2 or 3 lower cost Spread Option QBs instead of a $20+ million pocket passer.

One thing to note is that in Spread Option systems, the QB doesn't have to run all that often in order to be a threat and to affect the way defenses have to account for him in their scheme. Chip Kelly's Oregon offense is a perfect example of this.

manxman2601 said:

He's referring to his obsession Tim Tebow.

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Yes Manx, spot on old chap. Demosthenes follows Tebow from team to team and site to site arguing with fans of those teams about Tebow and I post responses in Tebow threads in this forum but it is my "obsession." Good call, right on the money.


We were discussing AJ MacCarron and Demosthenes decided to take a shot at Greg McElroy and I reminded him that the same Greg McElroy beat out Tim Tebow, that's just a fact, regardless of how much you and Demosthenes and the other Tebow supporters don't like to hear it.

Ivan said:

Yes Manx, spot on old chap. Demosthenes follows Tebow from team to team and site to site arguing with fans of those teams about Tebow and I post responses in Tebow threads in this forum but it is my "obsession." Good call, right on the money.


We were discussing AJ MacCarron and Demosthenes decided to take a shot at Greg McElroy and I reminded him that the same Greg McElroy beat out Tim Tebow, that's just a fact, regardless of how much you and Demosthenes and the other Tebow supporters don't like to hear it.

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It's highly irrelevant as the question being discussed was whether or not AJ McCarron would/could be a starting QB in the NFL. I said that I think he is similar to McElroy, and posted the Senior season stats of both showing how similar they were. McElroy didn't have what it takes to be a starter in the NFL, hence, he was a backup.

In his 3 year career in the NFL, he managed to start 1 game and has subsequently retired.

Tebow has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion other than your lame assed desire to interject him into this thread to try and needle me.

You want to talk Tebow with me, take it to the farking Tebow thread and I'll happily continue to embarrass you there.

LMAO on that last statement!

But he still beat out Tebow. Oh wait, that isn't true. He didn't really 'beat him out', it's just that, well, the coaches COULDN'T PLAY Tebow! Cause if they did, he'd WIN and make them look FOOLISH for not having played hiim before.

Delusion knows no limits.:singing:

kennyb said:

But he still beat out Tebow. Oh wait, that isn't true. He didn't really 'beat him out', it's just that, well, the coaches COULDN'T PLAY Tebow! Cause if they did, he'd WIN and make them look FOOLISH for not having played hiim before.

Delusion knows no limits.:singing:

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Take it to the existing tebow thread sunshine.

Demosthenes said:

Take it to the existing tebow thread sunshine.

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Thankfully for the rest of us that thread was mercifully put down.