DeSean Jackson Released by Eagles [update]: Signed by Washington

Deus Irae said:

The Patriots would be fools not to take a serious look at this kid. It doesn't mean that they should grab him, but immediately ruling him out without damned good reason (and "AHern!" isn't damned good reason) would be a failure of the front office/ownership.

And "Chip doesn't like him" does not qualify as a damned good reason, either.

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The Patriots are a brand and whether you want to accept it or not the Hernandez situation was a significant stain to that brand. Unfortunately that stain has to play into the decision making process for the current time anyway.

The hardcore fan may say hell yeah sign this guy who cares, I love that the Pats are all about winning. The more casual fan will rip the team from ear to ear saying it doesn't care about anything but winning and puts the publics safety at risk by employing thugs. Unfortunately there are more casual fans than hardcore fans.

Deus Irae said:

The Patriots would be fools not to take a serious look at this kid. It doesn't mean that they should grab him, but immediately ruling him out without damned good reason (and "AHern!" isn't damned good reason) would be a failure of the front office/ownership.

And "Chip doesn't like him" does not qualify as a damned good reason, either.

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The guy has an inflated view of himself he doesn't sound like a BB type player. Also he ain't very bright and not much of a WR he's a a one trick pony who are a dime a dozen these days.

robertweathers said:

There are lots of QBs who are young, have rocket arms that are awful QBs.

Please explain why DJ would not want to play with a future HoF QB.

Please don't say that TB throws a crappy deep ball.

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He didn't say that DJ wouldn't want to play with Brady. He said that Brady and DJ are not a good fit.

Desean Jackson released

Mack Herron said:

you should read the article.

DeSean Jackson's gang connections troubling to Eagles | NJ.com

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That picture with the alleged gang sign looks shaky at best. Can't even guess why someone would assume that's a C.

Also the Snoop Dogg references are eye roll inducing. Snoop is as much a crip as Tom Brady is these days.

Deus Irae said:

The Patriots would be fools not to take a serious look at this kid. It doesn't mean that they should grab him, but immediately ruling him out without damned good reason (and "AHern!" isn't damned good reason) would be a failure of the front office/ownership.

And "Chip doesn't like him" does not qualify as a damned good reason, either.

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So let me ask you this: let's say for the sake of argument, the Patriots wanted to make him an offer. What would you, personally, be comfortable with the Patriots offering him?

Statement from DeSean Jackson on his release:

First I would like to thank the Eagles organization, the Eagles fans and the city of Philadelphia for my time in Philly. I would also like to thank coach Andy Reid for bringing me in. Secondly, I would like to address the misleading and unfounded reports that my release has anything to do with any affiliation that has been speculated surrounding the company I keep off of the field. I would like to make it very clear that I am not and never have been part of any gang. I am not a gang member and to speculate and assume that I am involved in such activity off the field is reckless and irresponsible. I work very hard on and off the field and I am a good person with good values. I am proud of the accomplishments that I have made both on and off the field. I have worked tirelessly to give back to my community and have a positive impact on those in need. It is unfortunate that I now have to defend myself and my intentions. These reports are irresponsible and just not true . I look forward to working hard for my new team. God Bless.

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BradyFTW! said:

Strongly disagree. I don't know it for a fact, obviously, but I bet you'd be surprised by the number of players who have acquaintances--even close ones--who have been suspected and even charged in murder cases.



That's the real issue. My guess is that they got rid of him more because of his inconsistent behavior in the locker room and off the field than because a friend on the other side of the country was acquitted of a murder charge a couple of years ago. The fact that his name came up tangentially in two murders is a cause to worry, but that's not even close to enough to warrant cutting a guy in its own right.



Huh? The guy has 6100 yards and 32 touchdowns in 6 seasons. Are you seriousluy claiming that 1156 yards and 9 touchdowns (his stat line in 2009) isn't a "good year"? Because if that's the case, then none of Amendola, Edelman, and LaFell has *ever* had a good year, so I guess you must be really concerned about the WR position.

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I meant one really good years and two or three other good years. He had one 1,000 yard season and one 1100 yard season to go with his 1300 yard season last year. Last season was really good and you might be able to argue that 2009 is almost as good, but otherwise his production has been above average at best.

And I am sorry, but I can almost guarantee you if a lot of players were friends with accused murders it would come out. If a very small handful do, it might fall through the cracks. But most of the players dirty laundry get leaked these days.

And I am against signing Jackson for the shear quantity of red flags. If the only red flag was he was friends with a guy accused of murder, I wouldn't be against signing him. Granted, he also wouldn't be available for the Pats to sign him if that was the only red flag.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m
At least four teams reached out to DeSean Jackson’s agent, Joel Segal, in first 30 minutes after he was relesaed. Talks ongoing.

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Good amount of interest considering the gang report.

Desean Jackson released

Tune is gonna have a field day with this one lol smh

Rob0729 said:

Not going overboard at all. Jackson is not a route runner and I have serious doubts he could thrive in the Patriots' offense. Not all players can play in every system. Some players can be studs in one system and struggle in another.

I mean Tom Brady is arguably the greatest QB of all time and he would be a joke in the 49ers' system that they run with Kaepernick.

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Well, duh.... you're not going to run terribly many read-options, naked bootlegs or designed QB scrambles with a QB like Brady.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that Jackson is an incredible talent who would thrive tremendously on the Patriots - if only he had his head screwed on straight.

patsinthesnow said:

KT was arrested 7+ times and had gang affiliations. People can grow up.

I'm torn on Desean.

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From what we know, Thompkins no longer affiliates with those gangsters and drug dealers. From what's being reported (if it's correct), Jackson still does. Maybe I'm still shellshocked from it, but I don't want a potential Hernandez 2 if these reports end up being true, no matter how talented Jackson is.

FourierSeries said:

Exactly. People here are being far too emotional and showing a complete lack of rational thinking on the matter.

They should certainly look at him and perform the due diligence. If they decide that he is not worth the risk and that he is likely to be another Hernandez, then so be it. But if after rigorously looking into his situation they decide he can help the team and will likely not cause any problems, they should definitely sign him. He is far too talented to ignore.

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I think I am being completely rational. The guy has a ton of red flags. And when a team cuts a 27 year old WR coming off a 1,300 yard, 9 TD season when they don't need to; that is an even bigger red flag.

I can argue that the people for signing him are the ones being irrational. They are ignoring the clear and significant red flags and see a flashy new sports car and want to buy it.

FourierSeries said:

Exactly. People here are being far too emotional and showing a complete lack of rational thinking on the matter.

They should certainly look at him and perform the due diligence. If they decide that he is not worth the risk and that he is likely to be another Hernandez, then so be it. But if after rigorously looking into his situation they decide he can help the team and will likely not cause any problems, they should definitely sign him. He is far too talented to ignore.

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I have no doubt that they already have looked at him and done their due diligence.

Rob0729 said:

I meant one really good years and two or three other good years. He had one 1,000 yard season and one 1100 yard season to go with his 1300 yard season last year. Last season was really good and you might be able to argue that 2009 is almost as good, but otherwise his production has been above average at best.

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So in six seasons, he's only been an above average player, provided that you ignore the three seasons where he was significantly better than that.

Did you ever hear the anecdote about Russian government officials in the cold war testing their cars head to head against American cars? Since the American car won in every test, they went with "Russian cars take second place in every category. American cars fail to finish better than second to last." You're bordering on that level of ridiculousness when you make claims like this. Frankly, if someone still looks above average even when you ignore the best 50% of their body of work, then that's really a statement to how consistently good they are.

To claim otherwise isn't that far off from saying that, if you ignore 2010-2012, Gronk is above average at best. or if you ignore the 50% of games where Chandler Jones got sacks, he's not a very good DE.

And I am sorry, but I can almost guarantee you if a lot of players were friends with accused murders it would come out. If a very small handful do, it might fall through the cracks. But most of the players dirty laundry get leaked these days.

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On what basis can you almost guarantee that? I think you're being pretty naive, here. Go to a poor, crime-ridden community (which the part of Long Beach that DeSean came from is; I can attest to that as someone who lives in downtown LB) and you'll be hard-pressed to find someone who *doesn't* know a guy who was charged with murder. I grew up in rural Maine, and even I do.

Rob0729 said:

I think I am being completely rational. The guy has a ton of red flags. And when a team cuts a 27 year old WR coming off a 1,300 yard, 9 TD season when they don't need to; that is an even bigger red flag.

I can argue that the people for signing him are the ones being irrational. They are ignoring the clear and significant red flags and see a flashy new sports car and want to buy it.

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I am not arguing for signing him. I am arguing for the team to actually look into this and decide for themselves if he would be a good fit in NE. Which I am sure they have done or will do.

apparently Desean is vehemently denying any gang involvement and according to schefter 4 teams have already been in contact with his agent.

ctpatsfan77 said:

So let me ask you this: let's say for the sake of argument, the Patriots wanted to make him an offer. What would you, personally, be comfortable with the Patriots offering him?

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No offense, but how the hell should I know right now? Regardless of Jackson's issues, I don't have the Patriots offseason plan in front of me. I'd be coming in at the tail end of FA, but without knowledge of any other possible restructurings, releases, etc... Hell, I'm not even sure of exactly how much was freed up by Wilfork's deal yet.


82 catches for over 1300 yards, a 16.2 ypr average, and 9 TDs is worth taking a look at, though.

He's a speed burner, Brady and Manning can't provide the big throws he takes advantage off.

Take a look at Indianapolis.

Someone could bring him and trade for Mallet, just a tip :snob:

SB39 said:

I have no doubt that they already have looked at him and done their due diligence.

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Sure, they looked at Eagles WR DeSean Jackson, now its time to look at Unrestricted Free Agent DeSean Jackson. It changes a hell of a lot.

KontradictioN said:

From what we know, Thompkins no longer affiliates with those gangsters and drug dealers. From what's being reported (if it's correct), Jackson still does. Maybe I'm still shellshocked from it, but I don't want a potential Hernandez 2.0 if these reports end up being true, no matter how talented Jackson is.

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I doubt KT has absolutely no friends that aren't model citizens because he decided to not do that anymore.

Seems naive to believe these guys cut everyone off. I don't even care if those dudes are your friends just stay out of the public and stay away from their dealings.

I doubt the pouncey's stopped being friends with AH the minute those "free AH" hats came off.