Boston Magazine: The Krafts Are the Worst Owners in the MLS

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Looks like me and Mr. Kraft think alike

We could both care less for soccer

TBR said:

Looks like me and Mr. Kraft think alike

We could both care less for soccer

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Of course, the difference between you and Mr. Kraft is that you're not taking people's money while simultaneously putting in a half-assed effort to field a winning soccer team.

Gator Mike said:

Of course, the difference between you and Mr. Kraft is that you're not taking people's money while simultaneously putting in a half-assed effort to field a winning soccer team.

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then maybe you should stop giving him money. problem solved

This topic is in the wrong forum...

chasa said:

then maybe you should stop giving him money. problem solved

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Attendance is down ~5,000 per game over the past 10 years, so lots of people have made that exact decision.

Gator Mike said:

Attendance is down ~5,000 per game over the past 10 years, so lots of people have made that exact decision.

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I go to a lot of Galaxy since I moved out west, and done right it's a hell of an experience. I think it's clear that the Krafts are terrible MLS owners, but I also think that they just don't care. It's a long-term hedge against the MLS developing into an upper tier American sports league. If that happens, they want to own a team. Beyond that, managing the team competently and putting a decent product on the field just aren't considerations that they care at all about.

Anyone who thinks that Mike Brown is an awful owner in the NFL should feel the same way about the Krafts in the MLS. It's the same basic principle.

Gator Mike said:

Attendance is down ~5,000 per game over the past 10 years, so lots of people have made that exact decision.

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Good for the 5k, but more need to do it if they want change. Bruins fans took about 15 years to figure it out.


Jets and Lions fans are still playing the role of sheep.

Deus Irae said:

Good for the 5k, but more need to do it if they want change. Bruins fans took about 15 years to figure it out.


Jets and Lions fans are still playing the role of sheep.

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Actualy no it won't. MLS is single entity all it will take is Kraft continually and drastically falling behind all 20 teams. Be forced to sell like Chivas just was forced to sell. Kraft no longer has the pull or power he once had in MLS. He loses MLS he loses the huge cash grabs he gets 2 or 3 times he does a year with Soccer Friendlies. He has a 68,000 one in June with Portugal/Mexico and those are gone with out MLS and US Soccer blessing.

Pessimistic Pete said:

The Krafts Are the Worst Owners in Major League Soccer

Felger & Mazz decided to open their show talking about this today, any thoughts?

I hope they move the Rev out of Foxboro, makes the Pats field look ugly and it'd be a lot better for the Rev to play closer to Boston.

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Just as long as they aren't the worst owners in the NFL, thats all i care about.

I know my memory is failing but wasn't it just 3 or 4 years ago that the Revs were coming off 3 or 4 trips to the MSL superbowl. Also have we all forgotten how difficult it was to get a stadium built in the Greater Boston area. Kraft failed, the Red Sox failed, and we barely got the Garden rebuilt.

This is MA where politics is our leading export. Its not just like Kraft could plop down $100MM and voila a 25.000 seat stadium is built, in some urban venue where land costs are through the roof, and every neighbor within a 5 mile radius would ***** about having a stadium within a 5 mile radius.

From what I understand, after a few down years, the team is getting better building through the draft. The new stadium issue is a real one, and if any of the whiners on this thread have a solution, I'd be happy to hear it.

There would be 3 very good immediate solutions. Harvard Stadium, BC stadium, and BU Field. All three are perfectly located with the right demographics, and decent size. But it will never happen because the neighbors would throw a fit, complaints about traffic, and a myriad of other political hurdles. Now think about building a NEW stadium. It would be THAT much harder.

BTW- All the issues I've mentioned above will still be there to the new guys, if the MLS were stupid enough to force Kraft to sell

Maybe Kraft should think about a move to Hartford

I wish they would just sell the team, though I know they won't. It's borderline disrespectful to the fans for them to own the team without even trying to win.

The Krafts are lucky to have stumbled on Diego ***undez, who looks like he's gonna be a bona fide superstar. He could net them some serious transfer money in the future.

patfanken said:

I know my memory is failing but wasn't it just 3 or 4 years ago that the Revs were coming off 3 or 4 trips to the MSL superbowl.

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Thanks to a nearly unrepeatable stretch of drafting that netted the Revs five All-Stars over a four year period, including some of the very best players in league history. But even during those seasons, the Revs were always among the very lowest payrolls in the league, and there were seasons where they didn't even sign the maximum number of players they were allowed to - the equivilant of the Patriots deciding that they were only going to dress 42 players for a game instead of 48.

The new stadium issue is a real one, and if any of the whiners on this thread have a solution, I'd be happy to hear it.

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Wonderland. The City of Revere wants a stadium there, the land isn't being used by the current owners, there's a T stop there, there's a brand new parking garage there, and they could hopefully piggyback on some of the infrastructure improvements a new casino at Suffolk Downs would bring.

There would be 3 very good immediate solutions. Harvard Stadium, BC stadium, and BU Field. All three are perfectly located with the right demographics, and decent size. But it will never happen because the neighbors would throw a fit, complaints about traffic, and a myriad of other political hurdles.

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The problem with Harvard Stadium is the actual physical field is too narrow. I agree that BC's neighbors would never allow the Revs to play there. Nickerson field is only about 12,000 seats, it's still FieldTurf, and it's too narrow as well.

Joker said:

This topic is in the wrong forum...

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There's a forum called Who Gives A ****?

I like soccer and I kinda wish that the sport could flourish in the US but it is about as successful as American football in other areas of the world. Can't blame the Krafts for being bad MLS owners while having the most successful NFL franchise over the past decade.

Well I will add my 2 cents which explains my opinion in full...

the Revolution coach Jay Heaps is closer to Rod Rust than he is to Bill Belichick.

does that explain it?

IcyPatriot said:

Well I will add my 2 cents which explains my opinion in full...

the Revolution coach Jay Heaps is closer to Rod Rust than he is to Bill Belichick.

does that explain it?

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And GM Mike Burns is closer to Matt Millen than GM Bill Belichick

Bob the father is a great owner. Passionate, a visionary, etc. The son Jonathan not so much. If Jonathan has been running the Revs and they're voted worst in the league, it doesn't bode well for when he takes over the Pats from his dad. Like a Jim Buss situation.....

This should have been a poll with only one option -- who cares.

IcyPatriot said:

Well I will add my 2 cents which explains my opinion in full...

the Revolution coach Jay Heaps is closer to Rod Rust than he is to Bill Belichick.

does that explain it?

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The thing is that out of the 3 men listed in that sentence, I've only heard of 2 of them. (I'll leave it to you to figure out which 2 )