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Here's something else comparing edge rush production by Ryan Riddle:

https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/448886893694828545

DeMarcus Lawrence is an interesting prospect. A number of people seem to think that he could be more than just a sub-rusher - he's fairly strong against the run, with fairly long arms, huge hands (11"), and more developed "combat tactics" than just being a speed rusher. I'm not 100% convinced, but I'm intrigued.
 
DeMarcus Lawrence is an interesting prospect. A number of people seem to think that he could be more than just a sub-rusher - he's fairly strong against the run, with fairly long arms, huge hands (11"), and more developed "combat tactics" than just being a speed rusher. I'm not 100% convinced, but I'm intrigued.

This sums up the whole pass rushing class for me.
 
The Metrics are in:

Peshek: DT Metrics 1.0 - Out Of The Box - Rotoworld.com

If you include knocking the ball down Donald influenced the QB (sack, hurry, knock down, batted pass) every 6.19 snaps. Hageman does so every 7.29 snaps (an impressive figure in it's own right). Perhaps Hageman's most impressive stat is that on a quarter of his run stops, he made the stop between 4-7 gaps away from where he lined up which shows tremendous range.

Donald is a great prospect and I'd be thrilled to get him but Hageman statistically isn't that much of a compromise when it comes to influencing the game. And with his great size and length , he has the potential to be a dominant player in his own right. It's a bit like saying "would you rather have JJ Watt or Muhammad Wilkerson?" They are both great players.

Thanks for posting this, Manx.

Overall, I didn't think this analysis by Peshek added much, but it was still worth reading. One thing that I thought was interesting was the range of positions that Donald lined up over compared to the other DTs - it looks like Donald lined up outside the guard more than any of the other 3 guys, including Hageman.

Dominique Easley would be interesting to compare.
 
Here's something else comparing edge rush production by Ryan Riddle:



https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/448886893694828545

Jeffcoat is as raw as a flank steak being packaged at the super market. But he is talented and if there was ever a defensive coaching staff that can help him hone his game, it's this one. His raw production at Texas is off the charts but he's still too much of a one trick pony at this point. I think he's one pass rusher that has the most potential at his position in this draft class, but he needs a lot of work to realize it.
 
Thanks for posting this, Manx.

Overall, I didn't think this analysis by Peshek added much, but it was still worth reading. One thing that I thought was interesting was the range of positions that Donald lined up over compared to the other DTs - it looks like Donald lined up outside the guard more than any of the other 3 guys, including Hageman.

Dominique Easley would be interesting to compare.

It did two things for me:

1. Cemented Hageman as the prospect I want the most in that first round. Don't worry, Donald is right up there too.

In fact,I'm just sitting here now thinking about the two being available at 29 and who I would take. Hageman at 29, Easley at 62. There. Decision made.

2. Made me like Jernigan a little more. Peshek hinted at all four being better than Sheldon Richardson. I'd love to see how their numbers compared to Richardson and Sylvester Williams.
 
It did two things for me:

1. Cemented Hageman as the prospect I want the most in that first round. Don't worry, Donald is right up there too.


In fact,I'm just sitting here now thinking about the two being available at 29 and who I would take. Hageman at 29, Easley at 62. There. Decision made.

I pretty much have Donald - Easley - Hageman as my top 3. Shazier and Jernigan or also on the list. I'd still go Donald - Easley if I could.

It 2. Made me like Jernigan a little more. Peshek hinted at all four being better than Sheldon Richardson. I'd love to see how their numbers compared to Richardson and Sylvester Williams.

I'd like to see Caraun Reid's numbers, for comparison with Jernigan.
 
The Metrics are in:

Peshek: DT Metrics 1.0 - Out Of The Box - Rotoworld.com

If you include knocking the ball down Donald influenced the QB (sack, hurry, knock down, batted pass) every 6.19 snaps. Hageman does so every 7.29 snaps (an impressive figure in it's own right). Perhaps Hageman's most impressive stat is that on a quarter of his run stops, he made the stop between 4-7 gaps away from where he lined up which shows tremendous range.

Donald is a great prospect and I'd be thrilled to get him but Hageman statistically isn't that much of a compromise when it comes to influencing the game. And with his great size and length , he has the potential to be a dominant player in his own right. It's a bit like saying "would you rather have JJ Watt or Muhammad Wilkerson?" They are both great players.
Thanks for posting this, Manx.

Overall, I didn't think this analysis by Peshek added much, but it was still worth reading. One thing that I thought was interesting was the range of positions that Donald lined up over compared to the other DTs - it looks like Donald lined up outside the guard more than any of the other 3 guys, including Hageman.

Dominique Easley would be interesting to compare.

I'd like to see Easley and 2012 Tuitt in there. I haven't read it entirely yet, but one quick thing I noticed is that Jernigan does in fact play out of position as much as I thought he did.

Here's something else comparing edge rush production by Ryan Riddle:


https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/448886893694828545

I'm not surprised to see Jeffcoat there.
 
I will just say this. Last year BB reportedly tried to sign Desmond Bryant (6-6, 310) and ended up signing Tommy Kelly (6-6, 310). It's another reason I like Ra'Shede Hageman who is....drum roll please.....6'6", 310 lbs. ;)
 
I will just say this. Last year BB reportedly tried to sign Desmond Bryant (6-6, 310) and ended up signing Tommy Kelly (6-6, 310). It's another reason I like Ra'Shede Hageman who is....drum roll please.....6'6", 310 lbs. ;)

Bryant was my top FA target for the Pats last year, along with Michael Bennett. I badly wanted the Pats to go after him, but Cleveland threw a ridiculous contract offer at him.

I've been on the Hageman bandwagon for 2 years, and I understand completely all your arguments for him. I won't be unhappy if he ends up being the choice. But I do feel that guys like Donald and Easley offer greater disruptive capability, and I think that's what the defense most needs up front to create opportunities for our secondary and LBs.
 
Bryant was my top FA target for the Pats last year, along with Michael Bennett. I badly wanted the Pats to go after him, but Cleveland threw a ridiculous contract offer at him.

I've been on the Hageman bandwagon for 2 years, and I understand completely all your arguments for him. I won't be unhappy if he ends up being the choice. But I do feel that guys like Donald and Easley offer greater disruptive capability, and I think that's what the defense most needs up front to create opportunities for our secondary and LBs.

The thing is, I don't love Hageman in the way I do Ward, Fuller or Donald. It's just that I see the potential to be dominant with that size and explosion. As for "greater disruptibility", I'm not convinced. Those Greg Peshek numbers prove that Hageman is pretty disruptive already and I still think he's some way off tapping fully into his potential. But, Hageman and Donald are neck and neck, Hageman just wins because of his size.
 
The thing is, I don't love Hageman in the way I do Ward, Fuller or Donald. It's just that I see the potential to be dominant with that size and explosion. As for "greater disruptibility", I'm not convinced. Those Greg Peshek numbers prove that Hageman is pretty disruptive already and I still think he's some way off tapping fully into his potential. But, Hageman and Donald are neck and neck, Hageman just wins because of his size.

Well what the Peshek numbers show is that Donald is probably the best pass rushing DT in this draft class. However, when you add in Hageman's ability to deflect passes, they end up pretty close. And realistically Hageman is probably the only guy who makes it all the way to 29.

I look at him the way I did Wilkerson. A little raw, but a lot of potential. BB can mold a kid like that. Donald is probably going to make an impact sooner in the NFL, but Hageman given the proper development could end up in the same tier of talent.

Because of draft position and capital needed to acquire each player, I'd have to give the nod to Hageman, if our pick in the 1st goes to addressing DL. I also like Hageman's ability to project to LDE for us with his extra length and athleticism.
 
Well what the Peshek numbers show is that Donald is probably the best pass rushing DT in this draft class. However, when you add in Hageman's ability to deflect passes, they end up pretty close. And realistically Hageman is probably the only guy who makes it all the way to 29.

I look at him the way I did Wilkerson. A little raw, but a lot of potential. BB can mold a kid like that. Donald is probably going to make an impact sooner in the NFL, but Hageman given the proper development could end up in the same tier of talent.

Because of draft position and capital needed to acquire each player, I'd have to give the nod to Hageman, if our pick in the 1st goes to addressing DL. I also like Hageman's ability to project to LDE for us with his extra length and athleticism.


More and more he's becoming my first round guy. He's jumped ahed of the likes of Tuitt, ASJ and Shazier, who are all players I really like. But Hageman could be special. I agree, Wilkerson is how I see him too.
 
More and more he's becoming my first round guy. He's jumped ahed of the likes of Tuitt, ASJ and Shazier, who are all players I really like. But Hageman could be special. I agree, Wilkerson is how I see him too.

I fully agree that Hageman could be like Wilkerson. I've made that comparison before. But I still think Donald could have a JJ Watt kind of impact.
 
Using Mayo's idea here is my all D draft. To make it interesting I won't use any of the players he did.


#29 - Hageman - DT - BEAST of a player
-TRADE- Mallet for #33 also trade #130 to move up to #30
#30 Shazier - OLB
#62 Bucannon - SS
#93 - Demarcus Lawrence - DE
#140 - Adrian Hubbard OLB/DE
#198 - Khairi Fortt - OLB/DE
#206 - Vinnie Sunseri - SS
#244 - Jay Bromley - DT
 
Using Mayo's idea here is my all D draft. To make it interesting I won't use any of the players he did.


#29 - Hageman - DT - BEAST of a player
-TRADE- Mallet for #33 also trade #130 to move up to #30
#30 Shazier - OLB
#62 Bucannon - SS
#93 - Demarcus Lawrence - DE
#140 - Adrian Hubbard OLB/DE
#198 - Khairi Fortt - OLB/DE
#206 - Vinnie Sunseri - S
#244 - Jay Bromley - DT

No offensive players? We need a c, backup qb if you trade Mallett, backup TE, backup G and maybe a wr.
 
No offensive players? We need a c, backup qb if you trade Mallett, backup TE, backup G and maybe a wr.

I am aware of that. This is just a fun little exercise to pass the time.
 
No offensive players? We need a c, backup qb if you trade Mallett, backup TE, backup G and maybe a wr.

Yes, "All D Drafts" tend to be alarmingly short of "O". ;)
 
The Pats have made substantial changes to the back end of their defense with the acquisitions of Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner, but have yet to address the front end. They've passed up a lot of options in free agency.

Thinking more about what a defensive front end would look like that would create the greatest potential, I keep thinking conceptually of a 5 man "base" DL with a NT flanked by 2 "3 techs" flanked by 2 "edge rushers". Seattle used this "Bear" formation quite a bit:

One of Pete Carroll’s favorite tweaks to this front is to reduce the five-technique (Bryant) down to a three-technique and play what’s known as a "Bear" front (named after the Mike Ditka/Buddy Ryan Bears).

MuthHawks-2.jpg


Muth read: The Seahawks and multiple defensive fronts - SBNation.com

Big-T in particular has been a strong proponent of the potential advantageous of overloading on the DL in combination with a dominant secondary. There are several advantages to this approach:

1. It is very strong against the run. With a big NT like Wilfork/Siliga in the middle and 2 DTs on each side flanked by a DE on each side, you have 5 men on the line and terrific run stopping ability.

2. You can generate tremendous pressure up front. You can crash either or both 3-tech with a big NT like Wilfork or Siliga to plug the middle, as well as create pressure from the edges.

3. You have terrific versatility to morph into various hybrid fronts, including 4 man, 3 man, and semi-ameboid formations.

However, this approach puts pressure on the LBs, who must be able to cover a lot of ground and be effective in coverage. The emergence of Jamie Collins is one of the keys in allowing this kind of approach to be effective, but another rangy coverage LB is needed.

Based on this, I would target the following:

Defensive Draft Picks:

- Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh. I would trade up to get Donald if at all possible, as he is the most disruptive defender in the draft. Alternative: If the Pats can't trade up for Donald, then Dominique Easley is the best option as a disruptive 3-tech.
- Dominique Easley, DE/DT, Florida. I would actually double up with Donald and Easley - they would create tremendous disruption and chaos, particularly with Wilfork sandwiched in the middle. Alternative: Stephon Tuitt. Tuitt isn't as explosive or disruptive as Easley, but he would still be effective.
- Christian Jones, LB, Florida St. A versatile LB with great explosiveness and coverage ability is badly needed. Alternative: Jordan Tripp.
- Antone Exum, DB, Virginia Tech. A big CB/S hybrid who can play press-man or in the box. Alternative: If Exum is gone I would probably go for a hybrid LB/S like Kevin Pierre-Louis.

UDFAs/PS Candidates:

These are developmental guys who I wouldn't see contributing in 2014, but with long term potential. They might be signed as UDFAs, or signed to the PS at roster cut down time.

- Terrance Fede, DE, Marist
- Ben Gardner, DE, Stanford
- Zach Moore, DE, Concordia
- Larry Webster, DE, Bloomsburg
- Zach Kerr, DT, Delaware
- Jonathan Dowling, DB, Western Kentucky

Defensive Roster:

Because of the flexibility of so many players to play different positions, I am avoiding traditional positional classifications but rather list some of the roles a player might be expected to play.

1. Chandler Jones (RDE, Elephant)
3. Vince Wilfork (NT)
3. Aaron Donald/Dominique Easley (3-tech)
4. Dominique Easley/Stephon Tuitt (3-tech, 5-tech, LDE)
5. Rob Ninkovich (LDE, LB)
6. Dont'a Hightower (LDE, MLB, SAM)
7. Jerod Mayo (WILL, MLB)
8. Jamie Collins (SAM, WILL, LEO/sub rusher)
9. Michael Buchanan (RDE, Elephant, LEO/sub rusher)
10. Christian Jones/Jordan Tripp (WILL, MLB, SAM, LEO/sub rusher)
11. Tommy Kelly (3 tech, 5 tech)
12. Sealver Siliga (NT)
13. Armond Armstead (3-tech, 5-tech, LDE)
14. Chris Jones (3-tech)
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15. Devin McCourty (FS)
16. Darrelle Revis (CB)
17. Brandon Browner (CB/S)
18. Alfonzo Dennard (CB)
19. Logan Ryan (CB/S)
20. Antone Exum (S/CB)
21. Duron Harmon (FS)
22. Kyle Arrington (dime CB)
23. Tavon Wilson (SS, LB/S, STer)
24. Nate Ebner (SS, STer)

With the above 24 man defensive roster the Pats would have tremendous ability to combine different back end coverage schemes with different front end pressure schemes, depending on the opponent and the game-specific goals. For simplicity purposes, I divide things into a "5-2-4 base" which can morph into different formations, and a "sub package" which adds a secondary player and optimizes pass rushing over run stopping.

Base "5-2-4":

Ninkovich/Hightower - Easley(/Tuitt) - Wilfork - Donald(/Easley) - Cha. Jones
Hightower/Ninkovich - Armstead/Kelly - Siliga - Chr. Jones/Kelly - Buchanan

Collins - Mayo
Hightower-Chrst. Jones(/Tripp)

Revis - Dennard - McCourty - Browner

Notes:

1. In a 5-2 base you have a penetrating 3-tech on either side of a NT, flanked by an edge rusher. That scheme provides tremendous pressure up front, which will create opportunities for the back 6, but is also difficult to run against. Easley and Donald are too quick for any interior OL to handle, and having Vince Wilfork crashing the middle will make them even more effective, and open up opportunities for Jones and Ninkovich outside.

2. The roster is at least 2 deep at each position in the front 7, guarding against injury. The goal should also be to rotate players even when healthy, and keep people fresh.

3. While the scheme is nominally called a "5-2-4 base", in reality it is a hybrid scheme that can fluidly morph between different formations without changing personnel to provide versatility and create confusion. Either Hightower or Ninkovich can drop back to LB (either MLB or SAM) in the base, converting it to a 4-3 under with Easley/Armstead as the LDE. Ninkovich and Hightower will probably end up dividing snaps between the DE and LB positions. Chandler Jones (or even Aaron Donald) can also stand up in an "elephant" role, converting to a 3 man front. Even more amorphous fronts are possible, include semi-ameboid formations, with the NT being the only player who is not truly interchangeable.

4. Christian Jones/Jordan Tripp provide depth behind Jerod Mayo, versatility to play MLB or WILL, and speed and coverage ability. Both Jones/Tripp and Jamie Collins can blitz off the edges as well. The LBs can ideally function as part of either the front end or back end of the defense. Mayo, Collins, Hightower, Ninkovich and Jones/Tripp all have tremendous flexibility in this regard. Mayo, like Wilfork, is an "anchor" with less versatility than the other guys, but he will function as the "glue" and as the defensive signal caller.

5. Devin McCourty is the "glue" of the back end, functioning as a single high FS and captain for the secondary. He will allow Revis, Browner and Dennard to all play aggressive press-man coverage. Cover-1 and Cover-3 will be the predominant coverage schemes, with some Cover 7; zone coverage (Cover-2 and Cover-4) will be used at times to confuse things, but in a lesser role.

6. There is no single dedicated SS. Exum and Browner could be used interchangeably as big press-man CBs who can drop down into a SS role. Tavon Wilson (or Kevin Pierre-Louis) could also play a SS or LB/S hybrid role. Alfonzo Dennard can be substituted as a 3rd CB. Again, one of the goals is to create confusion and exploit mismatches.

7. I believe that Aaron Donald and Dominique Easley would provide the maximal disruptive combination up front. Those 2 guys would be the lynchpins of my draft strategy. However, if either of those is not attainable, Stephon Tuitt would be my alternative. He could substitute for Easley at the 3/5 tech / LDE position, and if Aaron Donald was gone then Easley could slot to the 3-tech position. As long as I can get 2 of those 3 guys I think things will work fine.

8. Although this is a "base" formation, Jamie Collins gives terrific coverage ability. The combination of Collins and Christian Jones would actually give the Pats tremendous range and coverage from the LB group, and would decrease the need for a traditional "safety". Both Collins and Jones would be effective blitzing off the edge as well.

Sub Defense:

Ninkovich/Hightower - DT - Donald(/Easley) - Cha. Jones
(Hightower/Ninkovich - DT - Chr. Jones - Buchanan

Collins - Mayo
(Hightower - Chrst. Jones(/Tripp))

Revis - Browner - McCourty -Exum/Ryan - Dennard

Notes:

1. The basic switch is that one of the 3 DTs in the 5-2 base comes off the field for an extra DB. Because of the flexibility of the personnel, the sub defense could include anything from a 5-1-5 to a 1-4-6.

2. Most commonly this will be the NT, with 2 3-techs inside. However, it may be desirable to run a sub-package with the NT at times to keep teames from running too much.

3. Chandler Jones can kick inside in a 5-1-5 "NASCAR" package. This could be very difficult to defend with Collins/Buchanan coming off one edge and Ninkovich/Hightower off the other, and Mayo/Jones as the lone LB.

4. If the 5th DB is a "big nickel" back line Exum/Wilson then he would be functioning as a 2nd LB as well.

5. Alternatively, the 5th DB could be more of a coverage player like Logan Ryan or Kyle Arrington, giving maximum coverage ability.

Again, these are schematic simplifications, and just starting points. A creative defensive mind could create endless variations given the versatility and skill set of the defensive players.
 
That was well done, Mayo, but to be realistic it needs to not include Donald. Easley is clearly reasonable - and he'd fit in nicely next to Vince/Siliga in a 4-3 also - but we'll probably have to settle for Chris Jones or Tommy Kelly in the spot you have Donald. In Daniel Jeremiah's latest Top 50 we would have our choice of Easley or Ealy; in a different way, Ealy would be very tempting also.

College Football 24/7 Rankings | NFL.com
 
That was well done, Mayo, but to be realistic it needs to not include Donald. Easley is clearly reasonable - and he'd fit in nicely next to Vince/Siliga in a 4-3 also - but we'll probably have to settle for Chris Jones or Tommy Kelly in the spot you have Donald. In Daniel Jeremiah's latest Top 50 we would have our choice of Easley or Ealy; in a different way, Ealy would be very tempting also.

College Football 24/7 Rankings | NFL.com

To paraphrase Yoga, "for 800 years have I been studying the draft. My own counsel will I keep on what is realistic." I see no reason to exclude Donald at this point.

However, I DO think that it's not realistic to expect that Donald will absolutely be available, even with a potential trade up. But that's not essential to the analysis. Consider who the Pats currently have on their roster in terms of a hybrid base 5-2 defense that can morph into different forms, combined with an aggressive Cover 1/Cover 3 back end:

Ninkovich/Hightower - Kelly/Armstead - Wilfork/Siliga - Chr. Jones/Vellano - Cha. Jones/Buchanan

Collins/Hightower - Mayo

Revis - Dennard - McCourty - Browner

A NT like Wilfork or Siliga lined up over the center who can potentially command a double team frees up inside penetration from either the 3-tech (Jones/Vellano) or the opposite side 5 tech/3 tech (Kelly/Armstead), with Jones and Ninkovich/Hightower coming off the edge. If Ninkovich/Hightower plays as a stand up LB and you shift the line over then this becomes essentially a 4-3 under scheme with Kelly/Armstead as the LDE. If you remove the NT in sub package situations then you basically have 2 3-tech interior pass rushers.

Looking at the Chris Jones/Vellano 3-tech position and the Kelly/Armstead LDE/5 tech/3 tech position as the main areas to upgrade via the draft, I could see the following players having value:

- Guys who could upgrade the Chris Jones/Vellano 3 tech role: Aaron Donald (massive upgrade), Dominique Easley, Carraun Reid.
- Guys who could upgrade the Kelly/Armstead role: Dominique Easley, Ra'Shede Hageman, Stephon Tuitt, maybe Brent Urban, maybe Kelcy Quarles.

The Pats could probably pull this off with their existing personnel. But if they are able to upgrade any of the key positions within the draft, they could be even more effective.
 


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