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Terrance Fede is a Chandler Jones clone. I like him almost as much as any pass rusher in the draft.

Also, another UDFA guy I like, Lawrence Virgil, DT, of Valdosta State had a good pro day with a 4.84 40 and benching 39 reps which would have beaten all defensive linemen at the combine.
 
Terrance Fede is a Chandler Jones clone. I like him almost as much as any pass rusher in the draft.

Also, another UDFA guy I like, Lawrence Virgil, DT, of Valdosta State had a good pro day with a 4.84 40 and benching 39 reps which would have beaten all defensive linemen at the combine.

I've seen all kinds of heights and weights listed for Fede. NFL DraftScout has him listed at 6' 2 6/8" 285#. The Marist web site lists him as 6'5" 270#. I've also seen him listed as 6'4" 278#. I know he was measured at his Pro Day, but I haven't seen official numbers. Do you know them?
 
I've seen all kinds of heights and weights listed for Fede. NFL DraftScout has him listed at 6' 2 6/8" 285#. The Marist web site lists him as 6'5" 270#. I've also seen him listed as 6'4" 278#. I know he was measured at his Pro Day, but I haven't seen official numbers. Do you know them?

I'm working on 6-4, 278 which is what I think he was measured at at the pro day.
 
I'm working on 6-4, 278 which is what I think he was measured at at the pro day.

That's a nice set of measurements. I haven't seen any of his numbers yet. He's certaining an intriguing sleeper.
 
That's a nice set of measurements. I haven't seen any of his numbers yet. He's certaining an intriguing sleeper.

Across the board a tad better than Chandler Jones. I put his numbers up on here somewhere. I'm at work at the moment though.
 
Across the board a tad better than Chandler Jones. I put his numbers up on here somewhere. I'm at work at the moment though.

Found it - you posted it in the Mock Drafts thread:

Terrence Fede, who was given a 7th-round grade by scouts entering the season, measured 6040/278lbs then ran in the mid-to-high 4.7s in the forty. I'm told during training Fede was running in the high 4.6s. His other marks included 25 reps on the bench, 9-11 in the broad, 4.4s short shuttle and a 7.02 three cone. Afterwards, I'm told Fede looked impressive in both linebacker and defensive end drills. Keep him on your radar.

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No VJ 3 reported, though he did the drill. I found some video footage of Fede doing the drills at his Pro Day:

Nyack's Terrence Fede looks to continue to make history at Marist - Varsity Insider

Intriguing looking guy.
 
I agree. You'll notice he doesn't show up in my blueprint or mocks anymore.

Which is perhaps further evidence why BB will take him with a draft that shocks everyone!! LOL :p

I remember I really loved Jamie Collins eye-popping combine performance. But I was like, naah he's a raw, athletic linebacker, not somebody BB will take a chance on. And boom! That's when BB brings him in. LOL

Anyone think Dee Ford could end up being the guy for us? Noticed his name popping up to the Pats in the latest draft mocks.
 
A couple of months ago Blogging the Boys looked at the defensive tackle and defensive end prospects in the 2014 draft using an old Pat Kirwan metric, the "production ratio", which basically measures splash plays (sacks + TFL per game). It's obviously a crude ratio, and is relatively useless for a gap control approach, but from the perspective of measuring disruption it's a starting point:

NFL Draft 2014: Finding Playmaking Defensive Tackles For The Dallas Cowboys - Blogging The Boys

Clowney And Who Else? Finding Playmaking 4-3 Defensive Ends In The 2014 NFL Draft - Blogging The Boys

It includes small school products such as Ethan Westbrooks and Terrance Fede.
 
Weird thought occurred to me after reading that article but... shouldn't we be more excited about, talking more about this Chris Jones kid?

We took him in the 6th round, pick 198. And look at his production ratio: 1.49 career, and 2.16 Last 2 seasons.

NFL Draft 2014: Finding Playmaking Defensive Tackles For The Dallas Cowboys - Blogging The Boys

To put that in perspective his last 2 seasons production ratio beats out: Suh, McCoy, Dareus, Fairley, Wilkerson, and NFL DROY Sheldon Richardson.

And on top of that, he comes out his first season and produces 6 sacks and 11 starts, as a rookie. Do we already have our 'pressure' inside DT ready for the new season? Is this why BB hasn't shown much urgency yet in the FA market to pick up DL?

The question for all of us should be, are we geeking up too much on the draft, and neglecting to re-examine the players we have on the current roster?

Can Chris Jones eventually become a starter level player for us?

Chris Jones Tape:
Chris Jones vs Miami of Ohio (2012) - YouTube

Also can Armond Armstead make a contribution at DE?

Prospect 2012 video:
Armond Armstead 2012 NFL Draft Prospect Video 6-5, 295, DE USC - YouTube
 
Weird thought occurred to me after reading that article but... shouldn't we be more excited about, talking more about this Chris Jones kid?

We took him in the 6th round, pick 198. And look at his production ratio: 1.49 career, and 2.16 Last 2 seasons.

NFL Draft 2014: Finding Playmaking Defensive Tackles For The Dallas Cowboys - Blogging The Boys

To put that in perspective his last 2 seasons production ratio beats out: Suh, McCoy, Dareus, Fairley, Wilkerson, and NFL DROY Sheldon Richardson.

And on top of that, he comes out his first season and produces 6 sacks and 11 starts, as a rookie. Do we already have our 'pressure' inside DT ready for the new season? Is this why BB hasn't shown much urgency yet in the FA market to pick up DL?

The question for all of us should be, are we geeking up too much on the draft, and neglecting to re-examine the players we have on the current roster?

Can Chris Jones eventually become a starter level player for us?

Chris Jones Tape:
Chris Jones vs Miami of Ohio (2012) - YouTube

Also can Armond Armstead make a contribution at DE?

Prospect 2012 video:
Armond Armstead 2012 NFL Draft Prospect Video 6-5, 295, DE USC - YouTube

I like Chris Jones and think he can be a valuable contributor, but I personally see him as more of a rotational 3-tech than as a full time starter. Depth is critical, and I'm much happier with 2 disruptive penetrators than I am with one.

I've always thought that Armond Armstead can make a significant contribution at DE as well as at DT. At this point we'll have to see how he develops and how the team uses him, but I'm still reasonable sanguine about his potential. And I'm also hopeful that Michael Buchanan will develop as at least a sub rusher, and potentially something more.

What I'm personally not willing to do, however, is bet the bank on 3 guys stepping up big time, and staying healthy. History says that that's too much to expect. So I prefer to plan accordingly, and augment those positions without critically depending on any of those guys. If they develop, we'll be all that much better off.
 
Chris Jones = Jarvis Green type player
 
Chris Jones = Jarvis Green type player

Interesting...I'm not seeing it. Green was taller, lighter and faster. Hard to imagine Jones lining up at DE.
 
Well, we didn't actually draft Chris Jones, we claimed him the second time he was waived.

I think someone else mentioned this but I could picture him as a Mike Wright kinda guy. But if he could develop into a competwnt starter that'd be swell.
 
I think Jones is most like Myron Pryor although Pryor had more explosion and power and Jones is quicker. I'm not sure there's a true apples for apples with the recent Patriot's teams.
 
Regardless of the Chris Jones comparisons, I think it is key for the Pats to have a deep rotation at both DE and DT. They've overplayed guys for too long, from Wilfork to Ninkovich and Jones to Chris Jones. Some of it was by necessity given injuries, but some of it was just poor snap count management.

I want 4-5 deep minimum at each position of players who actually get on the field and play meaningful snaps. Sealver Siliga, Chris Jones and hopefully Armond Armstead will be part of that, regardless of who we draft. I'm also hoping Michael Buchanan will develop enough to be part of that. That would give us 8 man DL depth in addition to 4 "starters". I'd much rather have 8-10 guys who get significant reps than 4 guys who play 90% of the snaps and are completely worn out by the time the postseason rolls around.
 
Weird thought occurred to me after reading that article but... sho. dn't we be more excited about, talking more about this Chris Jones kid?

We took him in the 6th round, pick 198. And look at his production ratio: 1.49 career, and 2.16 Last 2 seasons.

NFL Draft 2014: Finding Playmaking Defensive Tackles For The Dallas Cowboys - Blogging The Boys

To put that in perspective his last 2 seasons production ratio beats out: Suh, McCoy, Dareus, Fairley, Wilkerson, and NFL DROY Sheldon Richardson.

And on top of that, he comes out his first season and produces 6 sacks and 11 starts, as a rookie. Do we already have our 'pressure' inside DT ready for the new season? Is this why BB hasn't shown much urgency yet in the FA market to pick up DL?

The question for all of us should be, are we geeking up too much on the draft, and neglecting to re-examine the players we have on the current roster?

Can Chris Jones eventually become a starter level player for us?

Chris Jones Tape:
Chris Jones vs Miami of Ohio (2012) - YouTube

Also can Armond Armstead make a contribution at DE?

Prospect 2012 video:
Armond Armstead 2012 NFL Draft Prospect Video 6-5, 295, DE USC - YouTube


I have high hopes for both Jones and Armstead. They might not be HOF but they can contribute
 
CBS Sports scouting reports on Jordan Tripp and Christian Jones, my 2 favorite LB prospects in the draft:

Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana
6'3" 234#

STRENGTHS / WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS:
Possesses broad shoulders, a slim waste and a powerful lower half, looking the part of an NFL linebacker. Highly instinctive defender. Seemingly is always around the ball. Recovered 10 fumbles over his career.

Quickly steps up in run support, slipping past would-be blockers to meet backs in the hole. Tough. Willing to sacrifice his body to take on the double-team and will attempt to build a pile to jam things up for his teammates to make the easy play.

Good lateral agility to avoid and has enough strength and arm-length to shed. Patient tackler. Breaks down well, waiting for the ballcarrier to commit before latching on for the drag-down tackle.

Good vision and recognition in coverage. Balanced and fluid when dropping back, presenting a surprisingly tough matchup for running backs and tight ends. Helped himself with a solid week of practice at the Senior Bowl.

WEAKNESSES: Despite his reputation, plays with a little more finesse than physicality. Grabs and swings ballcarriers to the ground, on occasion, rather than accelerating through them.

Loses containment responsibilities by getting too caught up with blockers. Missed all but three games of the 2011 season with a shoulder injury which required season-ending surgery.

COMPARES TO: K.J. Wright, OLB, Seattle Seahawks - Like Wright, Tripp possesses the instincts to play in the middle but his fluidity and length could also see clubs view him as more effective on the perimeter. A selection outside the top 100 is likely, but Tripp could develop into a surprising starter.

--Rob Rang (2/4/14)

PLAYER OVERVIEW

Tripp was a relative man amongst boys at the FCS level, earning a spot among the finalists for the Buck Buchanan Award as the best small school defender in the country. The third-generation Grizzly also proved that he could handle the jump in competition by enjoying a solid week at the Senior Bowl.
In some respects, Tripp is the stereotypical small school linebacker, as he is highly instinctive, tenacious and a team captain.

Don't sell Tripp short, however. Besides sporting a legitimate NFL frame, he's also a fluid athlete with good closing speed. He possesses the length and burst to intrigue as a pass rusher but only posted 11 sacks over 40 career games (25 starts) because he was more dangerous handling the run from the middle and dropping back into coverage.

As such, proponents of the traditional 4-3 alignment may find Tripp a good fit.

Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Christian Jones, ILB, Florida St.
6'3" 240#

STRENGTHS / WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS:
Tremendous athlete with has fluid footwork who flawlessly flips his hips to blanket tight ends or receivers down the field in coverage. Tall and long, which he uses well in coverage. Plays with excellent range and speed to chase down the action, taking proper angles in pursuit. Flashes the take-on strength to blow past blockers when he uses proper technique.

WEAKNESSES: Needs to improve his awareness to turn his head and find the ball. Length is advantageous, but at times will cause him to play too upright, and he needs to improve his overall leverage, especially on tackle attempts. Will get hung up on blocks at times.

--Dane Brugler (11/27/13)

PLAYER OVERVIEW

Jones was a five-star prospect by Rivals.com coming out of Lake Howell High School in Winter Park, Fla. While he considered offers from Alabama, Florida, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Tennessee, Jones was a natural fit to land at FSU, where his father, Willie Jones, Sr., starred as a defensive end.
As a true freshman, Jones saw action in all 14 games on special teams and as an occasional reserve linebacker, finishing the season with 18 tackles, three sacks and three tackles for loss.

Jones entered the starting rotation at strong-side linebacker in 2011, finishing second on the team with 56 tackles, six for losses, along with three sacks and a team-high two forced fumbles.

He again started every game in 2012 while moving to the weak side, finishing with a team-high 95 tackles. Jones racked up more tackles in 14 games as a junior than he had in his first 27 games entering the season.

Jones was on the move again as a senior, this time to the middle under new defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt. He went on to finish sixth on the team with 49 tackles while starting 11 of 12 games heading into the BCS title game. Jones also had 7.5 tackles for loss and a pair of sacks to go along with six quarterback hits.

Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

I'd take both of these guys if I could. Mayo-Hightower-Collins-Jones-Tripp could be the best LB group in the NFL before long.

Right now my favorite defensive prospects possibly available in the 93-125 range are LBs Jones and Tripp, DB Antone Exum, CB Phillip Gaines, and DTs Caraun Reid and Justin Ellis.
 


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