Manning to Retire?

Uncle Meat said:

I have a GIF too.

January 19th, 2014

How's that?

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There comes a point where your trolling gets over-the-top stupid. You've gone past that point.

Sticky Caulk said:

Incarcerated Bob has absolutely no credibility.

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Except maybe this one time .............

Uncle Meat said:

It means that Tom Brady was an idiot compared to Peyton Manning in the Championship game. I thought that was obvious.

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"An idiot compared to Manning in the championship game." You do realize, I hope, that these quarterbacks operated behind different offensive lines against different defenses. Right? I'm beginning to believe that whatever objective discernment you might've once had is gone, a casualty of dedicating yourself to a godawful football team all those years

Joker said:

it's some kind of bizarre Bills fan "gotcha!!"...but without any Bills in it...perhaps if we pan wide left there'll be something, eh?....nope...wide right maybe???

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[Mod edit] I am pathetic and sad. As a Buffalo Bills fan, life is so dark. Hell, my team will probably be moving to LA soon.

sounds like a NY Post front page headline...

PENIS PUNK GOES BANANAS

I'll bet that would spike circulation...

[Mod edit] I am pathetic and sad. As a Buffalo Bills fan, life is so dark. Hell, my team will probably be moving to LA soon.

[Mod edit] I am pathetic and sad. As a Buffalo Bills fan, life is so dark. Hell, my team will probably be moving to LA soon.

You Patriot Puds suck!!!

another world class putdown invented by Buffalo Burger Brains in association with Wide Right Productions IV

[Mod edit] I am pathetic and sad. As a Buffalo Bills fan, life is so dark. Hell, my team will probably be moving to LA soon.

Uncle Meat said:

I sure do understand your excuses when they suit you.

You do understand that the Patriots went 11-5 when Brady was lost for the season, and the Colts went 2-14 when Manning went down for the season, right?
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I'm not going to dispute the notion that Manning played much better than Brady in that AFFCG. However, I don't see what this point has to do with anything. Furthermore, the point itself also simplifies the respective situations that those teams were going through. The 08 Pats had a stacked roster, and a pretty easy schedule (was ranked near or at the bottom in SOS that year IIRC). In contrast, The 11' Colts fielded a really poor roster (probably deliberately in order to get Luck) and had a much tougher schedule than the 08' Pats. If you want to do a Brady vs. Manning comparison, go right ahead, but it'd probably be better to compare their performances during seasons in which they had poor supporting casts or a cast that was hampered by injuries (06', 13' Pats. 10' Colts).

AndyJohnson said:

Not sure what you list is but they played the Patriots last year.

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Yes, Denver played Indy and NE last year and will again this year.

The main point is that Denver will play Cincy instead of Baltimore and tangle with the AFCE and NFCS instead of the AFCS and NFCE. Things won't be as easy for P6 this year.

Uncle Meat said:

I can't fart around here without you around to smell it.

Whenever I say anything at all here, there you are...like a complete idiot, trying to put me down like that's supposed to mean something. Keeping dibs on me. Yeah, that's cyber-stalking. Back off.

What is your problem? You obviously have me targeted. That's pretty much indisputable at this point.

Is your life THAT empty?

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Is this Morissey?


If not then it has to be the lead singer of The Cure.


So very sad, it almost makes me sad.

Ivan said:

Is this Morissey?


If not then it has to be the lead singer of The Cure.


So very sad, it almost makes me sad.

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As a hardcore Mozzian, I'd know if it were him. Our resident Bills fan doesn't make enough Wilde references to be the Pope of Mope .

1960Pats said:

Yes, Denver played Indy and NE last year and will again this year.

The main point is that Denver will play Cincy instead of Baltimore and tangle with the AFCE and NFCS instead of the AFCS and NFCE. Things won't be as easy for P6 this year.

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Ahh yes, very true, Denver's schedule next season is a b.tch, and they are going to have a tough time getting home field, if they do they really earned it. On the other hand it is the regular season and the Bronco's have the GRSQBOAT, and I mean that sincerely, Peyton is a f.cking great regular season QB. Denver will be back and they are going to be a factor in the play-off's next season. If Fox and Peyton can get them over the heap it will be a great achievement but it is not going to be easy and I think there is going to be real baggage from the beating the Seahawks laid on them. If Peyton's "Legacy" was under a cloud from the hometown papers last season it is going to be staring up at a landslide next offseason. The pressure is on Peyton and no amount of regular season success will relieve it, in fact the better his regular season is the greater his postseason pressure will be, because the disparity between the two gets greater and greater by the year.

Uncle Meat said:

The only thinly veiled shots that are taken are the ones against ME.

Call me a masochist.

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Well, if you're not intending to take thinly veiled shots, then you're trolling. How else do you explain these two posts below, one from this thread and one from another thread ten days ago? Are you talking out of both sides of your mouth because you're only here to badmouth the team when it suits you, or are you doing so because you're a troll (and a piss poor one at that)?

February 19, 2014:

Uncle Meat said:

I sure do understand your excuses when they suit you.

You do understand that the Patriots went 11-5 when Brady was lost for the season, and the Colts went 2-14 when Manning went down for the season, right?

Brady played terribly on his own in that Championship game. He threw the ball terribly on several potential huge plays with wide-open receivers. But I understand...on a play where Edelman was wide open for a TD, Phil Simms says "sometimes you throw it so well that the football travels a few more yards than you thought it would go." Yep, he said that. Here I thought it was a bad pass, but as it turns out, Brady just threw it TOO well. That's Phil Simms the QB, and you are whoever the **** you are the Patriots fan. Trust me, Brady played poorly in that game and you can't lay that off.


I'm beginning to think that all of you 'round here are puds, and to fit in, I'll be one too...not that you didn't think I was one before. Here I was trying to be tempered and fair, believe it or not.

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February 9, 2014:

Uncle Meat said:

Cute picture.

It's the other guy digging the hole, unintentionally making it deeper by bringing up 2008 as evidence of how the Patriots are good enough without Brady, or so that's the crazy message I got from his posting the standings without comment. The Patriots did not make the playoffs that year, so that's like pouring gasoline on yourself when you are on fire...to bring that up after what I said. The Patriots were a WAY better TEAM that year than they are now too, and then the hole gets deeper.

But the picture doesn't really tell my what you think. Do you agree with me?

How important you think Tom Brady is to the New England Patriots and how you think the current team would do without him. That's the subject, son.

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Also, LOL at you talking about fighting Joker over the internet.

ashley1992 said:

I so wish this would happen, can you imagine Denver without Manning, we would be the prohibitive favorite next year in the AFC. Our biggest competition would probably be either the Colts or Chargers.

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We say 'sup.

There has been all kinds of talk lately about how Manning doesn't care about his legacy, and how he'd come back if he still enjoyed preparing, etc. but I don't buy it. I think he does care about his legacy and I don't think the Broncos are in any shape to once again compete for a title next year. That defense is still absolutely atrocious, and there's a good chance they lose Eric Decker to FA.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he hung 'em up. In fact, I think that's what he should do.

It's hard to pass up 20 mil a year. Manning is still capable of racking up stats and winning regular season games. The last game was embarrassing. Regardless of him saying it isn't, he had to feel embarrassed and you know he wants another crack at it to try and redeem that performance.

SteelersCanada said:

We say 'sup.

There has been all kinds of talk lately about how Manning doesn't care about his legacy, and how he'd come back if he still enjoyed preparing, etc. but I don't buy it. I think he does care about his legacy and I don't think the Broncos are in any shape to once again compete for a title next year. That defense is still absolutely atrocious, and there's a good chance they lose Eric Decker to FA.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he hung 'em up. In fact, I think that's what he should do.

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If Manning does return, I could see the Broncos pulling out all the stops to keep their offensive core intact this season (if that is possible). However, paying Decker could very well complicate the negotiations over Thomas's next contract. Furthermore, they'd have less money to spend on their D (they have the draft yes, but is rookie talent enough to fix it?).

Way I see it, the Broncos roster could make one more SB run. However, making the SB again seems like a much taller order when you look at their SOS, along with the potential competition in the playoffs. A lot went right for Denver last year (namely a really convenient schedule and a a conference where all the other powerhouses were either inconsistent, had glaring holes, or were dogged by injuries as bad as, or worse than Denver's.)

Efstratios said:

If Manning does return, I could see the Broncos pulling out all the stops to keep their offensive core intact this season (if that is possible). However, paying Decker could very well complicate the negotiations over Thomas's next contract. Furthermore, they'd have less money to spend on their D (they have the draft yes, but is rookie talent enough to fix it?).

Way I see it, the Broncos roster could make one more SB run. However, making the SB again seems like a much taller order when you look at their SOS, along with the potential competition in the playoffs. A lot went right for Denver last year (namely a really convenient schedule and a a conference where all the other powerhouses were either inconsistent, had glaring holes, or were dogged by injuries as bad as, or worse than Denver's.)

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I don't think Peyton even sniffs another SB in his career. Everything went right for the broncos this past season: easy schedule, no injuries to skill position players, and the WEATHER. If one of the playoff games had even a breeze/rain, it would have severely impacted the Broncos offense.

I don't think the pull out all the stops, their roster is talented enough to win with a decent QB after Manning leaves. Plus, they have a lot of key FA over the next 3 seasons. They won't keep Decker because D Thomas will get Mike Wallace money next season. I saw on the Broncos board a fan comparing the decline of Arizona's offense when Boldin and Fitz were split up and Denver's offense next season and I am inclined to agree.

AFC West is on the rise. KC was a fraud last season but definitely improving, SD can seriously challenge Denver, and Oak has a ton of money to spend this year.

I think Peyton knows he won't get back to another SB and realize that he just had another amazing regular season and hang it up. Although nothing would please me more than to see Peyton follow up the SB with the worst regular season of his career!:rocker:

Uncle Meat said:

You do understand that the Patriots went 11-5 when Brady was lost for the season, and the Colts went 2-14 when Manning went down for the season, right?

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Glib to the point of being meaningless.

The Patriots, without Tom Brady, went from being the (at the time) greatest offense of all time and 16-0 to 11-5. With a weaker schedule than the year before.

Meanwhile the Colts went from 10-6 to 2-14. I don't know their comparative strength of schedule.

But what I see are two teams who both took tremendous hits without their QB. I'd welcome any further analysis on this that is more than just citing records and pointing a finger at the bigger number because SoS, roster turnover - these things matter.