Report: Talib has no structural damage in his knee

well talib your career may have started here...but it won't end here..unless you take 4 mill a year

I think I'm over him. I love the way he plays, but seeing him just standing on the sidelines for 2 AFCCG's, and both times with no real damage at the end of the day, is discouraging.

Philip Rivers (who I can't stand, FWIW) damn near won an AFC Championship on a torn ACL. In the same game LdT sat on the bench after a few plays because his knee hurt. Twice Talib has looked like LdT in the biggest games of his career.

SalemPats said:

Ok, tough guy. It's like you want the Patriots to lose all the time. You revel whenever Talib or Brady makes a bad play

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Unless you are being sarcastic this post is about as far off the mark as it gets. Kontra is consistently one of the best posters in this forum and his criticisms of this team are measured and usually accurate. There are plenty of db haters you could apply that post to but he isn't one of them.

We'll get a real measure of what Belichick thinks about this when the negotiations begin, I seriously doubt he is getting the big money deal here that we thought he had a shot at earlier this season.

I'm all in favor of guys being very careful about their heads, and also more careful than is currently usual about necks, spines and so on.

But extremities? The last convincing story I've heard about somebody playing on an injured foot, leg or knee that shouldn't have was Kevin McHale in 1987-8.


As Bill Parcells said, football season is when football players play football.

Fencer said:

I'm all in favor of guys being very careful about their heads, and also more careful than is currently usual about necks, spines and so on.

But extremities? The last convincing story I've heard about somebody playing on an injured foot, leg or knee that shouldn't have was Kevin McHale in 1987-8.


As Bill Parcells said, football season is when football players play football.

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Logan Mankins played the 2010 Super Bowl on a torn ACL.

Ivan said:

Logan Mankins played the 2010 Super Bowl on a torn ACL.

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Was he still able to cover his receiver man to man?

Are people really blaming Talib for sitting out the second half? If Talib couldn't run full speed, what good would he be out there? CBs are the most athletic guys out there on defense covering the most athletic guys on offense. They need to be full speed to be effective. BB and his staff might have made the decision that an 80% Talib is not good enough to be out there.

BB needs to sign this guy. Our secondary is crap without him.

Talib was limping off the field and in the tunnel to the locker room; it reminded me his injury from last year at first, so clearly there was something wrong with him.

Speed and quickness are his "weakest" traits, an injury to his knee would've hampered him even more in that regard; I think it was more a coach decision to go with the healthiest guys available. An injured Talib wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, imho.

Taking Mankins torn ACL and deducing from it that Talib could've played with his injury (we don't even now what exactly the injury was) is nonsense.

Tasco said:

Talib was limping off the field and in the tunnel to the locker room; it reminded me his injury from last year at first, so clearly there was something wrong with him.

Speed and quickness are his "weakest" traits, an injury to his knee would've hampered him even more in that regard; I think it was more a coach decision to go with the healthiest guys available. An injured Talib wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, imho.

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There are three kinds of leg/knee/foot/whatever injury, and we don't know which kind he had from among:

1. Pain only
2. #1, plus losing reliability in his sensations about his footing.
3. Actual diminution of function -- speed, strength, quickness, whatever.

Fencer said:

There are three kinds of leg/knee/foot/whatever injury, and we don't know which kind he had from among:

1. Pain only
2. #1, plus losing reliability in his sensations about his footing.
3. Actual diminution of function -- speed, strength, quickness, whatever.

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Good point, I agree on #2 & #3, but I'm not so sure #1 exists: I believe pain always comes with some kind of reduced performance/mobility/sensations on footing/etc.. I might concede, that pain can be ignored over a short period of time with all the adrenaline flowing in your body in those situations, but sooner or late theoretically your performance should start to decline.

Tasco said:

Good point, I agree on #2 & #3, but I'm not so sure #1 exists: I believe pain always comes with some kind of reduced performance/mobility/sensations on footing/etc.. I might concede, that pain can be ignored over a short period of time with all the adrenaline flowing in your body in those situations, but sooner or late theoretically your performance should start to decline.

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Sometimes what's wrong directly affects a nerve, and is of little substance otherwise. In those cases, pain may not signal much in the way of other problems.