Peyton Manning quote

Get it shawtaay said:

NFL teams are good. The fact that the Pats have struggled late in the postseason is a testament to how hard what they achieved in the past was.

Broncos outplayed NE today. Brady did not have a good game. Execution was meh on both sides of the ball. Broncos offense was clicking on all cylinders. Coaches forgot about Ridley. Denver gave us their best game today, and now they get the privilege of playing for the Lombardi.

There's zero margin for error in NFL games. Instead of worrying about what we did wrong you've got to tip your cap sometimes. Its not like we're the Yankees who can buy Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis and Calvin Johnson.

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I completely agree.

But from my perspective, it seems that we see one team/ QB leading to the playoffs and first round (two weeks prep) and then a different team/ QB in a championship game.

we are 2-5 in championship game since the win against the Eagles...I mean what needs to happen to change that?? Just not play in championship games???

This isn't John Pagano/Andrew Luck, Russel Wilson/Pete Carroll, Colin Kaepernick/ Jim Harbaugh...etc. Where do we go??

Elijah T. said:

It gets tiring hearing all this spygate BS...."they haven't won a championship since spygate".

But what can you say, we win three in four years...how improbable is that?? then what...we're starting to become the 90-94 Buffallo Bills....I mean, real talk, the way we looked today was nothing like we looked against Buffalo, Baltimore, and Indianapolis. We looked like a young team in its first big game today. Everything was out of sync...we got out-coached and outplayed at every facet.

What do we do from here?? My bet, just be content with the past, because we're still going to tow the company line and hope for young players or cheap veterans to be exceptional players in clutch games....

I'm just frustrated...loss for words. I felt like it was now or never today.

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I feel the same way. It's now going to be a full decade since the last Super Bowl win, and all the season ending defeats have been in cruel fashion.

- Twice lose at Denver in a game the Patriots never get it going with.
- Twice lose to Peyton Manning in the AFC championship (including the above mentioned Denver).
- Watch a formerly beloved Patriot assist Peyton on both occasions (Adam Vinatieri and Wes Welker).
- Twice lose to Eli Manning in the Super Bowl.
- Twice lose at home to the Baltimore Ravens.
- Watch Mark freaking Sanchez outplay Tom Brady at home.
- Watch Rob Gronkowski (2011 and 2012) and Aqib Talib (2012 and 2013) each suffer injuries in the playoffs.
- Have Brett Favre fail to beat Chad Pennington which costs the Patriots the division and a playoff berth in 2008...just like he did in 2002.
- Lose Gronk at the end of this season, Harrison at the end of 2006, Welker at the end of 2009, etc.

Losing happens, injuries happen. But the way it's done, in the most cruel of manners, almost makes me feel like the universe is conspiring to mess with us. I know fans of more tortured franchises like the two in Ohio, as well as Buffalo, Detroit, etc. don't want to hear it from us, and who can blame them? But the Patriots have been defeated in such ridiculous ways in the past decade and it's become old hat. I love all the division titles but can we have just one more season where it all comes together before Brady and Belichick retire? I know it sounds selfish but I remember when we were horrible, before Kraft and Parcells turned the franchise around, and I know how hard these opportunities are to come by.

It's not Peyton, it's the media fawning we hate

BoTown said:

I feel the same way. It's now going to be a full decade since the last Super Bowl win, and all the season ending defeats have been in cruel fashion.

- Twice lose at Denver in a game the Patriots never get it going with.
- Twice lose to Peyton Manning in the AFC championship (including the above mentioned Denver).
- Watch a formerly beloved Patriot assist Peyton on both occasions (Adam Vinatieri and Wes Welker).
- Twice lose to Eli Manning in the Super Bowl.
- Twice lose at home to the Baltimore Ravens.
- Watch Mark freaking Sanchez outplay Tom Brady at home.
- Watch Rob Gronkowski (2011 and 2012) and Aqib Talib (2012 and 2013) each suffer injuries in the playoffs.
- Have Brett Favre fail to beat Chad Pennington which costs the Patriots the division and a playoff berth in 2008...just like he did in 2002.
- Lose Gronk at the end of this season, Harrison at the end of 2006, Welker at the end of 2009, etc.

Losing happens, injuries happen. But the way it's done, in the most cruel of manners, almost makes me feel like the universe is conspiring to mess with us. I know fans of more tortured franchises like the two in Ohio, as well as Buffalo, Detroit, etc. don't want to hear it from us, and who can blame them? But the Patriots have been defeated in such ridiculous ways in the past decade and it's become old hat. I love all the division titles but can we have just one more season where it all comes together before Brady and Belichick retire? I know it sounds selfish but I remember when we were horrible, before Kraft and Parcells turned the franchise around, and I know how hard these opportunities are to come by.

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This hit the nail on the head for me...good post.

I understand that other fan-bases have different struggles...we can be thankful that we have an owner that is completely committed to winning on the field, not just with the profit margins, which can't be said about the ownership of many other franchises in the NFL. And that we have a HC and QB that think exactly the same as as the owner when it comes to the bottom line.

But to have been so successful early then become runner up for ten years, including arguably the biggest letdown in sports (15-1), and lose to teams the way we've lost to them is becoming a depressing slow fall from grace...."haven't won since spygate" becomes more relevant as we lose championship game after championship game.

Belichick and Brady are a constant...they'll win in the regular season, but I don't think teams fear playing them as they once did. And familiarity breeds contempt amongst other fanbases...nobody but Pats fans want to see the Pats win, and at this point every body expects at some point...no matter how well we've played to get there that we'll lose in the playoffs.

So the reality for me is, I just want Brady and Belichick to win one more. Just finish. Maybe it's selfish. But these losses are terrible. I really wish that for one season, even if it hamstrung us for a couple seasons after-- just once, we would add two or three highly talented players via trade and free agency (specifically at WR, DE/DT,) and press the NFL with 'talent' like we had in 2007 to finish it. But that's just me.

PATSNUTme said:

I should personally like Peyton. He is a class guy.

Having said that, I can't wait for the Seahawks to destroy the Bronco's in the SB. Does that make me a bad person?

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Good or bad, I'll be doing the same.

After all, I want Manning's record breaking season to end in Super Bowl heartache as well.

BoTown said:

I feel the same way. It's now going to be a full decade since the last Super Bowl win, and all the season ending defeats have been in cruel fashion.

- Twice lose at Denver in a game the Patriots never get it going with.
- Twice lose to Peyton Manning in the AFC championship (including the above mentioned Denver).
- Watch a formerly beloved Patriot assist Peyton on both occasions (Adam Vinatieri and Wes Welker).
- Twice lose to Eli Manning in the Super Bowl.
- Twice lose at home to the Baltimore Ravens.
- Watch Mark freaking Sanchez outplay Tom Brady at home.
- Watch Rob Gronkowski (2011 and 2012) and Aqib Talib (2012 and 2013) each suffer injuries in the playoffs.
- Have Brett Favre fail to beat Chad Pennington which costs the Patriots the division and a playoff berth in 2008...just like he did in 2002.
- Lose Gronk at the end of this season, Harrison at the end of 2006, Welker at the end of 2009, etc.

Losing happens, injuries happen. But the way it's done, in the most cruel of manners, almost makes me feel like the universe is conspiring to mess with us. I know fans of more tortured franchises like the two in Ohio, as well as Buffalo, Detroit, etc. don't want to hear it from us, and who can blame them? But the Patriots have been defeated in such ridiculous ways in the past decade and it's become old hat. I love all the division titles but can we have just one more season where it all comes together before Brady and Belichick retire? I know it sounds selfish but I remember when we were horrible, before Kraft and Parcells turned the franchise around, and I know how hard these opportunities are to come by.

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This really does sum up quite nicely how I feel and a big reason for my 'conflicted' post......

on one hand it's been a decade since winning and we've been oh sooo close to tasting victory only to have multiple devastating losses.....

then on the other hand when I want to watch which highlight DVD to put into the DVD player, I have to pick which one to choose BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE OF THEM!!! I should feel fortunate to have that, but still I'm left wanting more.

In fact, then I think about how those championship DVDs are just that, DVDS!!!!! I need a BLU RAY championship video.

PATSNUTme said:

I should personally like Peyton. He is a class guy.

Having said that, I can't wait for the Seahawks to destroy the Bronco's in the SB. Does that make me a bad person?

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Lmao, exactly how I feel about it.

Elijah T. said:

I completely agree.

But from my perspective, it seems that we see one team/ QB leading to the playoffs and first round (two weeks prep) and then a different team/ QB in a championship game.

we are 2-5 in championship game since the win against the Eagles...I mean what needs to happen to change that?? Just not play in championship games???

This isn't John Pagano/Andrew Luck, Russel Wilson/Pete Carroll, Colin Kaepernick/ Jim Harbaugh...etc. Where do we go??

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What needs to change is we need a New OC that can gameplan for high pressure games. Our 2 SB losses and the last 2 AFCCG losses are all on the O as they crapped the bed.

moejr said:

What needs to change is we need a New OC that can gameplan for high pressure games. Our 2 SB losses and the last 2 AFCCG losses are all on the O as they crapped the bed.

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I don't think the plans are bad so much as having the personnel to execute them. We ran deep outside routes to Austin Collie and Matthew freaking Slater. The only big physical receiver to keep defenses honest is actually our #1 tight end and we lost him in the Cleveland game.

The problem I saw before this season was instead of using the 2-TE formation as an advantage, BB decided instead to make the offense revolve around it. It would have been so much deadlier with two viable outside WR's, plus the TE's. But all bets were hedged on the 2-TE formation surrounded by slot receivers and that all went to hell the moment Hernandez decided to be an idiot.

PatsFan24 said:

Every team has bad fans. Some Seahawks fans where throwing things at the injured 49ers player who was being taken off on the cart. It doesn't get much more classless than that. I hope Manning and the Broncos bomb the Seac*nts

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I heard about that.

I am conflicted. After Welkers dirty hit on Talib, I can't really root for him to get a ring. Seahawks fans and Richard Sherman? Nope.

Only option left: meteor.

PatsFan24 said:

Every team has bad fans. Some Seahawks fans where throwing things at the injured 49ers player who was being taken off on the cart. It doesn't get much more classless than that. I hope Manning and the Broncos bomb the Seac*nts

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I agree with everything in your post except the last sentence. I am conflicted in regards to this upcoming Super Bowl. There are reasons why I don't want the Seahawks winning and there are reasons that I don't want the broncos winning. I wish there was a way that this upcoming Super Bowl could end in a tie game.