Patriots Most Impressive, Surprising & Disappointing Players in 2013-14…

Impressive

• Tom Brady
• Julian Edelman
• Chandler Jones
• Devin McCourty
• Aqib Talib
• LeGarrette Blount
• Logan Mankins
• Rob Ninkovich
• Shane Vereen
• Alfonzo Dennard
• Logan Ryan
• Donta Hightower
• Stephen Gostkowski
• Ryan Allen

Surprises

• Julian Edelman
• Ryan Allen
• LeGarrette Blount
• Chris Jones
• Sealver Siliga
• Logan Ryan
• Marcus Cannon
• Duron Harmon
• Steven Gregory
• Kenbrell Thompkins
• Joe Vellano

Disappointing

• Aaron Hernandez
• Danny Amendola
• Tavon Wilson
• Adrian Wilson*
• Ras-I Dowling
• Jake Bequette
• Jermaine Cunningham
• Kyle Arrington
• Jake Ballard
• Ryan Wendell
• Brandon Spikes
• Justin Francis*
• Daniel Fells
• Stevan Ridley
• Armond Armstead*

*Injured in preseason

Notice – Some players appear on multiple lists

I would love to see some others opinions and hear some thoughts on my lists.

Some of my disagreements in bold.

Brady6 said:

Impressive

• Tom Brady
• Julian Edelman
• Chandler Jones
• Devin McCourty
• Aqib Talib
• LeGarrette Blount
• Logan Mankins Running game only
• Rob Ninkovich
• Shane Vereen
• Alfonzo Dennard
• Logan Ryan
• Donta Hightower Not really

Surprises

• Julian Edelman
• LeGarrette Blount
• Chris Jones
• Sealver Siliga
• Logan Ryan
• Marcus Cannon Not surprising
• Duron Harmon
• Steven Gregory
• Kenbrell Thompkins
• Joe Vellano
• Develin

Disappointing

• Aaron Hernandez
• Danny Amendola
• Tavon Wilson
• Adrian Wilson*
• Ras-I Dowling
• Jake Bequette
• Jermaine Cunningham
• Kyle Arrington Disagree. He is what he is.
• Jake Ballard
• Ryan Wendell
• Brandon Spikes
• Justin Francis*
• Daniel Fells
• Armond Armstead*
• Ridley

*Injured in preseason

Notice – Some players appear on multiple lists

I would love to see some others opinions and hear some thoughts on my lists.

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Brady6 said:

Impressive

• Tom Brady
• Julian Edelman
• Chandler Jones
• Devin McCourty
• Aqib Talib
• LeGarrette Blount
• Logan Mankins
• Rob Ninkovich
• Shane Vereen
• Alfonzo Dennard
• Logan Ryan
• Donta Hightower

Surprises

• Julian Edelman
• LeGarrette Blount
• Chris Jones
• Sealver Siliga
• Logan Ryan
• Marcus Cannon
• Duron Harmon
• Steven Gregory
• Kenbrell Thompkins
• Joe Vellano

Disappointing

• Aaron Hernandez
• Danny Amendola
• Tavon Wilson
• Adrian Wilson*
• Ras-I Dowling
• Jake Bequette
• Jermaine Cunningham
• Kyle Arrington
• Jake Ballard
• Ryan Wendell
• Brandon Spikes
• Justin Francis*
• Daniel Fells
• Armond Armstead*

*Injured in preseason

Notice – Some players appear on multiple lists

I would love to see some others opinions and hear some thoughts on my lists.

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Gostkowski and Ryan Allen should definitely be on the Impressive list.

Francis isn't very good. Ditto with Arrington. Hard to guys like that disappointing, they just are what they are.

Hernandez deserves a category of his own.

Every single acquisition the past two years by the offensive coordinator has been poor. No more ex-Rams and ex-Broncos players please.


Danny Amendola
Greg Salas
Tim Tebow
Brandon Lloyd
Michael Hoomanawanui
Kenbrell Thompson
Aaron Dobson
Josh Boyce
Zach Sudfeld

Fencer said:

Some of my disagreements in bold.

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Good call on Ridley; I added him to mine.

brady6 said:

surprises

• julian edelman - I would be fine seeing him get a 3 yr contract.
• legarrette blount - If the money is right keep him
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• chris jones - deplorable vs the run ... Cut him
• sealver siliga - fine if we're a 2-gap team lousy in 4-3.
• logan ryan - Future is bright for Logan
• marcus cannon - do we ever run to the right side?
• duron harmon --- ??? Not sure yet
• steven gregory - decent player but we need a bigger body there.
• Kenbrell Thompkins - ??? Not sure yet.
• joe vellano - good for depth that's about it.

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DropKickFlutie said:

Every single acquisition the past two years by the offensive coordinator has been poor. No more ex-Rams and ex-Broncos players please.


Danny Amendola
Greg Salas
Tim Tebow
Brandon Lloyd
Michael Hoomanawanui
Kenbrell Thompson
Aaron Dobson
Josh Boyce
Zach Sudfeld

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I like Dobson and Boyce, I think they’ll make the leap in year 2. Hooman considering we signed off a practice squad and he has been a solid player for us I would actually say he is the most successful on the list and am very happy to have him here. The rest I agree on and would add the following players:

Spencer Larsen
Daniel Fells
Jabar Gaffney
Donte Stallworth

IcyPatriot said:

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:lol: you’re one of my favorites in here Iceman

DropKickFlutie said:

Every single acquisition the past two years by the offensive coordinator has been poor. No more ex-Rams and ex-Broncos players please.


Danny Amendola
Greg Salas
Tim Tebow
Brandon Lloyd
Michael Hoomanawanui
Kenbrell Thompson
Aaron Dobson
Josh Boyce
Zach Sudfeld

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Since when did McDaniels make draft picks? And just because his brother vouched for Maroney doesn't mean he makes draft picks.

And if he did influence the rookie WRs, he should be in charge of picking WRs in the draft all the time. Dobson had the best rookie season of the Brady era. Thompkins was a very good pick up for an undrafted free agent. Sudfeld was a decent flier as an undrafted free agent.

sb1 said:

Gostkowski and Ryan Allen should definitely be on the Impressive list.

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Good calls.

IcyPatriot said:

sealver siliga - fine if we're a 2-gap team lousy in 4-3.

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Surely you know that we often run a 2-gap 4-3.

Players I was truly impressed by:


1) Chandler Jones (had a nice 2nd year leap in becoming a better pass rusher and I look foreword to his 3rd year into seeing what he will truly be like as a pro.
2) Julian Edleman (is he a #1 receiver? No, has he earned himself a legitimate contract and a starting spot next year? Yep)
3) Logan Ryan (he struggled a little bit today but as a whole he seemed to keep plays in front of him and he's the best DB we have at playing the football which is encouraging in his first year but also says a lot about what we have in our 2ndary
4) Jamie Collins (for the past month you can really see him actually grasping the game and becoming accustomed to the speed. We have an animal on our hands going into next year, Hightower looked like he was becoming more comfortable as well.)

People I was disappointed by

1) Devin McCourty and Steve Gregory- At some point you have to start being on time to make plays and both of these guys are good for being a step or 2 late on a lot of these big 3rd and long conversions. They are letting QB's play them instead of vice versa and they are pretty much non factors in run support.

2) Our training staff- at some point somebody has to be held accountable for some of these injuries. At first I was leaning towards the players but some of these are just laughable. How does the smallest player on the field injure talib?

How are Amendola and Arrington's contracts structured i.e are they easy to get out of?

Impressive:

Edelman
Hoomanawanui
Collins
Hightower
Allen
Dobson
Cannon
Wendell
Vereen

Disappointing:
Brady
Talib
Solder
Mankins
Amendola
Arrington
McCourty
Gregory
Ryan
Jones
Ninkovich

Edit: that's just for today.

IcyPatriot said:

chris jones - deplorable vs the run ... Cut him

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Ummm . . . I think I'm going to trust BB et al. on this one.

For the season:

Impressive:
Edelman
Collins
Blount
Mankins
Ryan

Disappointing:
Amendola
Ridley
Dobson
Arrington
Chandler Jones
Vereen
... Hernandez

Promising:
Collins
Hightower, now that he's not being miscast in Mayo's role
Vereen
Ryan
Dobson

Chandler Jones is worrying me a bit, hope he hasn't plateaued. I really thought he would become an all pro, but I didn't see a lot of growth this year

Promising:
-Collins
-Ryan
-Chandler Jones
-Dobson
-Boyce (Say what you want but he is David Givens 2.0. I really like him)
-Sealver Siliga

-Jake Bequette. *Just kidding*

ctpatsfan77 said:

Ummm . . . I think I'm going to trust BB et al. on this one.

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He was bad against the run, but there's a spot on the roster for interior pass rush specialists. He and Armstead (and Vellano) will be competing for a roster spot IMO

BradyFTW! said:

He was bad against the run, but there's a spot on the roster for interior pass rush specialists. He and Armstead (and Vellano) will be competing for a roster spot IMO

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And versus extra head count at DE that slides inside on certain downs.

But with the sub defense playing more than the base in most games, that's an important role.

sb1 said:

Gostkowski and Ryan Allen should definitely be on the Impressive list.

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Good call I added them both to the impressive list and also added Ryan to the surprising list.