Don't Sell Tickets to Pats Fans! The Colts Did This When Manning was in Indy...

PatsDeb said:

Sorry, RYO, we don't roll this way in NE. If you want to go to the game you scout out tickets like everybody else. We aren't afraid of a few fans from the opposing team coming to our stadium.

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I see plenty of opposing fans whenever I attend games. Good luck to them, but I sure hope their team loses.

PatsDeb said:

This is a whole other issue, and I agree wholeheartedly - Kraft should release more tickets to loyal every day fans. I like Kraft as an owner, but I have always said he does nothing without an eye towards making more money.

Edit - and he does not sell the tickets to scalpers. He gives them to club seat owners. If you mean that a lot of those folks sell them to scalpers, then I guess you are right.

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I'm only on the Pats waiting list, but I get access to a variety of tickets to all games, and at decent prices. If there is some markup it isn't that much.

PatsDeb said:

This is a whole other issue, and I agree wholeheartedly - Kraft should release more tickets to loyal every day fans. I like Kraft as an owner, but I have always said he does nothing without an eye towards making more money.

Edit - and he does not sell the tickets to scalpers. He gives them to club seat owners. If you mean that a lot of those folks sell them to scalpers, then I guess you are right.

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No, I do mean essentially scalpers. At least for one SB, if not more, a bunch of tickets were handed over by the team to some travel agency (no doubt the Official Travel Agency of the NE Patriots(tm)) who then did the usual scalpers' trick of throwing in free/face value tickets into a ludicrously marked-up travel package.

PatsDeb said:

Do you mean SB tickets this year? If so, where can I get tix like that!? (seriously...).

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No, not this SB but I bet if it gets cold or it snows that fair weather football fans will bail out and sell tickets. The closer towards the big game the lower the price will drop.

If you mean in Indy, that game was weird. Tickets were overpriced online, but we still bought as we did not want to get all the way to Indy and be shut out. On the day of the game, however, there were ticket brokers all along the main drag selling tix for face or less as the game got closer.

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I bought my ticket 30 minutes before KO for $1000. Face was $700

Excellent seat in the loge 40 yard line. 2nd level basically.

If the Pats had made it to NO last year we were going to go without tix in advance and hope for the best based on the Indy experience (because we figured if in the unlikely event we were shut out, we could still go to a bar in downtown NO and have a good time there watching the game).

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Agreed.

I wish this years SB was in NO.

No way I would try this in NY, as I think all the tix will be scarfed up in advance, and the stadium isn't located in Manhattan, but who knows? NE vs. NY didn't bring the crowds they'd hoped for, but it was Indianapolis, not exactly a great city at the center of many people's universe.

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There were plenty of fans but we waited and drove prices down.

NYC is going to suck because everything is so spread out and fragmented.

Re: Donkeys, Seahags limit playoff ticket access: NFL needs to stop this

Froob said:

Last time a team did this to us...

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"Act like you've sold a ticket before!"

1960Pats said:

I'm only on the Pats waiting list, but I get access to a variety of tickets to all games, and at decent prices. If there is some markup it isn't that much.

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We were just talking about Super Bowl tickets, which being either a season ticket holder or on the wait list does not give you access, at any price, unfortunately...

PatsDeb said:

I got news for Broncos fans - when Blount is running all over you, it won't matter how many people you have to yell your lame dweeby chant.

Go Patriots!!

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I don't think it matters. I'm looking to the law-dogs here (I know there's more than one lawyer here, I can smell 'em lol)....
Is this practice mucking with interstate commerce? I like to look at it this way:
Joe in region A has all kinds of water rights, and turns off the stream to region B. Citizens of region B are now forced to buy water at $5.99 per bottle.
Is it fair, or does the federal gummit step in?
Fair or no, what's the difference between these types of discrimination? One could say, "well the price here is $5.99 a bottle... that's the way it is" -- just like gasoline prices vary.... While water is a necessity, football tickets are not.... But "commerce" is "commerce" and the laws of supply and demand are the backbone of free enterprise -- if we demand fairness in one, we must demand the same in all. Or where am I wrong?
There's a most definite unfair advantage being wrung here and it just stinks.

GaryfromTO said:

LOL

The Ottawa Senators tried this in the NHL. They tried to stop Toronto fans from buying tickets when the Leafs played there. Then when that failed they tried to ban fans from wearing Leaf jerseys to the games.
That turned into another epic fail.

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The Sens vs. Leafs games in Ottawa sound like home games for the Leafs!

It's not that big of a deal anyway. It shouldn't be THAT hard if you live outside of Denver as a Pats fan and want to buy tickets to the game. StubHub and eBay are 2 of the first places that come to mind where they won't care.

Lurks_All_Day said:

Is this practice mucking with interstate commerce? I like to look at it this way:
Joe in region A has all kinds of water rights, and turns off the stream to region B. Citizens of region B are now forced to buy water at $5.99 per bottle.
Is it fair, or does the federal gummit step in?
Fair or no, what's the difference between these types of discrimination? One could say, "well the price here is $5.99 a bottle... that's the way it is" -- just like gasoline prices vary.... While water is a necessity, football tickets are not.... But "commerce" is "commerce" and the laws of supply and demand are the backbone of free enterprise -- if we demand fairness in one, we must demand the same in all. Or where am I wrong?
There's a most definite unfair advantage being wrung here and it just stinks.

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I am not a lawyer, but I don't see any kind of law being broken at all. Not even remotely close to it, actually.

Any company has the right to refuse or sell their product to whomever they choose.

If a law were actually being broken (or even pushed to the limit), we wouldn't see professional sports teams do it every single year.

The Denver Broncos have every right to sell their share of tickets to whatever group they wish to. It's one of the benefits of being the host. It's their risk as to whether or not they'll sell out the stadium, which they are obviously prepared to do--and frankly, probably wouldn't even care if they didn't sell out (not that they won't).

EDIT: It would appear that the NFL agrees:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/14/league-has-no-policy-about-address-discrimination/

Re: Donkeys, Seahags limit playoff ticket access: NFL needs to stop this

Danny said:

"Act like you've sold a ticket before!"

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"Elle Tee"

I was at that game. Bolts stadium employees were in my face as time ticked down because they thought a Chargers win was money in the bank. They scurried away like roaches after Keiding shanked the FG.

To this day I have never seen a stadium parking lot clear out so fast.

The NFL is painting themselves into a corner and throwing away the key here.

Part of the allure of having an NFL team is its benefit to the local economy- flights, hotel, rental car, dining. I dont know what the price of a good AFCC ticket is today but if I have to fork out $500 - $800 for a decent seat plus airfare, lodging and car, I am not going to Denver.

Post season ticket policy should be no different than the regular season policy.

I don't agree with freezing out forty two of fifty states entirely.

In the UK, even though we are different in the sense that we segregate our fans, we give an official allocation to the opposing team.

I don't see why NFL teams can't do this for each other.

I agree, the more Broncos fans there are the better if we pull out the win. I would love nothing more than to celebrate in their stadium surrounded by empty stands!

Doesn't make the policy right however.

The people I feel MORE sorry for are the fans of the Broncos outside the required zip codes. The Pats ticket policy would allow me to buy a playoff ticket from here in the UK, which a lot of people over here have done, however a Broncos fan in the UK could not.

There will be tickets flying around but not at any reasonable price.