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Thinking about the game a little more, defensively the DE's or OLB's (depending on personnel) need to stay home and keep Luck in the pocket. You cannot let him roll out because he's deadly while on the run, where a guy like Tebow or Geno Smith is not. Reason for that is his ability to throw an accurate bullet across his body to receivers that will break open once he gets on the move. We should see a lot of two gapping in this game as well, which should mean Siliga gets a lot of snaps. T.Y. Hilton should get frequently beat up at the line of scrimmage with some help over the top. Give him the Torrey Smith treatment from last year's AFCCG. Man handle him within the first five yards, get in his face, and don't let him get a free release. If Indy is smart, and they watch tape of that game, they'll frequently put him in motion or in the slot to avoid the jam. Fleener should still be a big area of concern, IMO. The defense has trouble containing the TE's and he should find some openings in the zone defenses that we'll probably employ.

Offensively, the Colts ranked 26th in run defense this year. If the forecast pans out and it rains, I would expect a heavy diet of the run starting with Blount. They're somewhat undersized up front and Mathis, as good as he is, has a habit of over pursuit. The Pats may employ a gameplan with the running game similar to the one they used against Julius Peppers in the Super Bowl: run right at him. They're also a mediocre pass defense too, in spite of their rank. A lot of what they did against the pass this year was a product of what they did up front. Still, expect them to actively try to take away Edelman and Vereen. That means that Amendola, Thompkins, Collie, etc. will get a lot of one on one opportunities that they will have to win.

In all, this is a good draw for the Pats. Contain Andrew Luck and they should win. Let Andrew Luck improvise and make plays with his feet, and they'll be one and done.
 
Thinking about the game a little more, defensively the DE's or OLB's (depending on personnel) need to stay home and keep Luck in the pocket. You cannot let him roll out because he's deadly while on the run, where a guy like Tebow or Geno Smith is not. Reason for that is his ability to throw an accurate bullet across his body to receivers that will break open once he gets on the move. We should see a lot of two gapping in this game as well, which should mean Siliga gets a lot of snaps. T.Y. Hilton should get frequently beat up at the line of scrimmage with some help over the top. Give him the Torrey Smith treatment from last year's AFCCG. Man handle him within the first five yards, get in his face, and don't let him get a free release. If Indy is smart, and they watch tape of that game, they'll frequently put him in motion or in the slot to avoid the jam. Fleener should still be a big area of concern, IMO. The defense has trouble containing the TE's and he should find some openings in the zone defenses that we'll probably employ.

Offensively, the Colts ranked 26th in run defense this year. If the forecast pans out and it rains, I would expect a heavy diet of the run starting with Blount. They're somewhat undersized up front and Mathis, as good as he is, has a habit of over pursuit. The Pats may employ a gameplan with the running game similar to the one they used against Julius Peppers in the Super Bowl: run right at him. They're also a mediocre pass defense too, in spite of their rank. A lot of what they did against the pass this year was a product of what they did up front. Still, expect them to actively try to take away Edelman and Vereen. That means that Amendola, Thompkins, Collie, etc. will get a lot of one on one opportunities that they will have to win.

In all, this is a good draw for the Pats. Contain Andrew Luck and they should win. Let Andrew Luck improvise and make plays with his feet, and they'll be one and done.

They should play andrew like a easier to tackle big ben.
 
That rain has me worrying about fumbles by the Patriots. It has not been pretty during the rain when it comes to ball possession for NE. Hope they have those fumbles ironed out.
 
They should play andrew like a easier to tackle big ben.

No. You play him like a Tim Tebow that can go through his progressions more quickly and can complete a high percentage of passes from the pocket as well.
 
Luck is much quicker than Ben, in both foot-speed and releasing the football
 
This is how the Colts will run the ball against the Pats, only effective way they can run it imo

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Luck is much more mistake-prone than Roethlisberger, though his talent level is much higher.
 
This is how the Colts will run the ball against the Pats, only effective way they can run it imo...

Your post has me curious. The Patriots don't have a Dontari Poe on the roster right now. That being the case, why do you think the Colts will need to double 2 Patriots players in the interior?
 
Your post has me curious. The Patriots don't have a Dontari Poe on the roster right now. That being the case, why do you think the Colts will need to double 2 Patriots players in the interior?

Interior line is way too poor to run without stunts and doubles, Fleener can't block to save his life.

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Interior line is way too poor to run without stunts and doubles, Fleener can't block to save his life.

Interesting. So you think even a weaker run defender like Jones will command a double team. I hadn't taken things that far.

I hope you're right, because that would cause a numbers game that would mean Spikes missing the game is even less significant than I originally thought it would be in this round.

Thanks for the opinion. I'll watch for it a bit during the game.
 
Luck is much more mistake-prone than Roethlisberger, though his talent level is much higher.

I don't think that's right.

His interceptions against the Chiefs were really dumb, but he was forcing throws because the team was by an insane amount and they were getting good pressure in the 2nd Q / early 3rd.

He's actually very good at playing with the lead, most of his interceptions this season have come from desperation times (down multiple scores with time running out)


Best way to beat him would be containing the edges and getting a push from up the middle so he can't step up in the pocket. I think his pocket movement (not presence!) is the best in the NFL.

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Interesting. So you think even a weaker run defender like Jones will command a double team. I hadn't taken things that far.

I hope you're right, because that would cause a numbers game that would mean Spikes missing the game is even less significant than I originally thought it would be in this round.

Thanks for the opinion. I'll watch for it a bit during the game.

Well it's situational too, Colts use a lot of 11 personnel and these runs are against sub/nickel packages so it's going to be a lot harder to stop.

It's a mess when they run from under center.
 
WR Dobson (left foot) officially ruled OUT for Colts game. CB Alfonzo Dennard (knee/shoulder), rookie WR Kenbrell Thompkins (left hip) Questionable.

Darius Heyward-Bey is OUT for Indy.
 
Heyward-Bey was actually doing good on special teams lol
 
The world is predicting the demise of the pats ..... Which is exactly why the pats are going to blast 'em
 
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