Where does the Blount trade rank in the BB era?

I remember the season that Blount broke out in Tampa, he helped me getting the 3rd place in my fantasy team that year, and he was a beast, still remember his play against the packers when he literally hurdled the entire green bay defense lol

Much like Talib, Blount was able to really revive his career by coming here. Basically, both of those players pretty much saved their careers. They were going to be cut outright, and had developed poor reputations with dwindling production.

I wonder if this will have any effect on future free agents or players who have been cut? Coming to N.England can really rejuvenate a career if you keep your mouth shut, listen, pay attention, stay out of trouble, and do your job.

As much as we all hope Blount will be retained, he's a free agent too, and he very well may move on and be replaced. Belichick doesn't hesitate to replace those kinds of players, particular a vet RB, and especially if he's able to get one on the cheap or even later on in the draft. It will be interesting to see what happens.

supafly said:

As much as we all hope Blount will be retained, he's a free agent too, and he very well may move on and be replaced. Belichick doesn't hesitate to replace those kinds of players, particular a vet RB, and especially if he's able to get one on the cheap or even later on in the draft. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Click to expand...

Bummer. I thought he had signed a two-year deal. At 27 and running toward the wall most big backs hit at 30, I'd like to see him stick around. However, realistically this would be his last shot at a big contract if there are buyers.

Brady_to_Moss said:

clock killin corey dillon was a great name


Blount needs one....

Click to expand...

Going all CSI on this one.......


Blount Force Trauma

nabwong said:

Amazing that for a 4th and 7th, we got Talib and Blount. Does BB have a naked picture of Schiano?

Click to expand...

My thinking is the trade of Talib and Blount had more to do with Schiano cleaning up his locker room. Blount may not have a problem playing second or third fiddle to Ridley and Vereen on the Patriots because he has a chance at a super bowl but I don’t think he had the same desire to be second to Martin on a team that consistently is in the bottom 15 of the NFL in terms of record.

Schiano also used the seventh round pick acquired to move up and draft Mike James who prior to being lost for the season due to injury had 295 rushing yards, a 4.9 average and 10 receptions for 43 yards. Blount also was under contract for $1.75 million against Tampa’s cap, he agreed to restructure here but that likely was not going to happen in Tampa.

Talib was not playing well in Tampa, he was having off field problems and to be honest a fourth rounder for Talib who was only under contract till the end of 2013s season at the time he was trade was a really good value for Tampa.

I don’t rank the trade that high because it could shift dramatically in coming seasons. If Talib and Blount walk after the season we basically traded a fourth, a seventh and Jeff Demps for Talib who we could has signed as an UFA this past offseason so the trade netted us 8 games with Talib and only 5 that he was able to play the entire game, and Blount who has been good but let’s not get carried away he has under 600 rushing yards and many of them have come in garbage time. If Demps plays football and is impactful and James returns healthy and is productive the end result of this trade long term actually could go Tampa’s way.

Brady_to_Moss said:

clock killin corey dillon was a great name


Blount needs one....

Click to expand...

I like Blount and think he was a good pickup but to put him in the same sentence as Corey Dillon is ambitious in my opinion. Blount has done well as I said but many of his yards are gained in the fourth quarter of decided football games.

QUARTER = 1 - 34, 140, 4.1, 14, 1
QUARTER = 2 - 29, 115, 4.0, 14, 0
QUARTER = 3 - 18, 68, 3.8, 12, 0
QUARTER = 4 - 48, 260, 5.4, 47, 4

He has run for 323 yards on 81 carries for a 3.98 average, 1 touchdown and 2 lost fumbles in the first three quarters of the football game. He best games occurred against the Tampa, Atlanta, Pittsburg and Baltimore which coincidently were all games we led by 10+ points heading into the fourth quarter.

I am not diminishing what Blount has done, that clock killing RB at the end of a ball game is nice to have but I think that people need to take into consideration the causation vs. correlation of Blount’s stats when assessing what he has done and how much value he has added. For a depth player he has been fantastic but he has not done anything close to what Dillon did for this team.

Brady6 said:

I like Blount and think he was a good pickup but to put him in the same sentence as Corey Dillon is ambitious in my opinion. Blount has done well as I said but many of his yards are gained in the fourth quarter of decided football games.

QUARTER = 1 - 34, 140, 4.1, 14, 1
QUARTER = 2 - 29, 115, 4.0, 14, 0
QUARTER = 3 - 18, 68, 3.8, 12, 0
QUARTER = 4 - 48, 260, 5.4, 47, 4

He has run for 323 yards on 81 carries for a 3.98 average, 1 touchdown and 2 lost fumbles in the first three quarters of the football game. He best games occurred against the Tampa, Atlanta, Pittsburg and Baltimore which coincidently were all games we led by 10+ points heading into the fourth quarter.

I am not diminishing what Blount has done, that clock killing RB at the end of a ball game is nice to have but I think that people need to take into consideration the causation vs. correlation of Blount’s stats when assessing what he has done and how much value he has added. For a depth player he has been fantastic but he has not done anything close to what Dillon did for this team.

Click to expand...

Your absolutely trying to diminish what he has done. The theory that the 4th quarter doesn't matter doesn't make sense, the score at the end of the 4th quarter decides the game. The Ravens closed the lead to a very attainable 13 points. Do you think the Ravens just quit after that and said let's just let them run the clock out on us? I don't. I think they knew the Pats would run, they knew they had to stop the run to win the game, and they couldn't stop it. The Result is Ridley and Blount gashed their way down the field and put the game away with a Blount TD. Trying to make that some meaningless feat of an already decided game is revisionism.

By my counts that's one unhappiness/happy to three unhapinesses...

Looks like we came out on top.

Before the trade
1. We were unhappy with Demps
1. They were unhappy with Blount
Trade makes sense for both teams

Now here we are week 16
1. We're happy with Blount
2. They are unhappy with Demps
3. They are unhappy Blount is working out for us. Trade feels more lopsided and BB did it again.

I loved the Blount trade. I actually wanted him here out of college on a late pick or brought in after since he went undrafted. I watched him closely and he was a beast that year he got a shot in TB. I was one of the few on this board who loved this move when it happened and also one of the few who was fine with him in there over Ridley when he went all butter fingers. That said he looked a tad overweight and sluggish early on this year. Not sure if he was hurt or what but he looks like hes running much lower and much quicker getting to the line than earlier this year.

I have a thing for power backs. I loved Dillon in Cincy and was so glad when we got him. Nothing beats a big guy and some of my favoirtes going back to child hood with Earl Campbell, Okoye, Iron head Heyward.

Im glad he's here glad he is playing well, I feel we will need him come playoffs.

Bobsyouruncle said:

Your absolutely trying to diminish what he has done. The theory that the 4th quarter doesn't matter doesn't make sense, the score at the end of the 4th quarter decides the game. The Ravens closed the lead to a very attainable 13 points. Do you think the Ravens just quit after that and said let's just let them run the clock out on us? I don't. I think they knew the Pats would run, they knew they had to stop the run to win the game, and they couldn't stop it. The Result is Ridley and Blount gashed their way down the field and put the game away with a Blount TD. Trying to make that some meaningless feat of an already decided game is revisionism.

Click to expand...

And when you think about it, Dillon got that that clock-killin' rep when he closed out games too…..in the fourth quarter. That's when you do the clock-killin, provided you have a lead!

Bobsyouruncle said:

Your absolutely trying to diminish what he has done. The theory that the 4th quarter doesn't matter doesn't make sense, the score at the end of the 4th quarter decides the game. The Ravens closed the lead to a very attainable 13 points. Do you think the Ravens just quit after that and said let's just let them run the clock out on us? I don't. I think they knew the Pats would run, they knew they had to stop the run to win the game, and they couldn't stop it. The Result is Ridley and Blount gashed their way down the field and put the game away with a Blount TD. Trying to make that some meaningless feat of an already decided game is revisionism.

Click to expand...

I am not diminishing it at all I clearly said that having a big back who can come in and pound it in the fourth quarter is a great asset to have on the team. I am not going to sit here and ignore the reality that many of Blount’s yards are gained against tired defenses in a game that has a decided outcome, Blount has not contributed to this team building a lead what he has done is help finish games.

I think people go overboard for players just because they see them do some dance that mimics Ray Lewis, yeah that’s great and all but is the running game is not better because of Blount it is just a different player carrying the ball at the end of the game. Ridley had 280 rushing yards and Bolden had 119 rushing yards in the 4th quarter last season so they combined for 399 rushing yards. This season you have Blount with 260 rushing yards and 4 touchdowns and Ridley with 127 rushing yards so they’ve combined for 387 rushing yards. I don’t see a drastic difference except for the name on the back of the jersey being different. That is what I mean by cause vs. correlation you and others speak as if Blount is the cause of this and we have never ran the ball at the end of games in the past but that is completely untrue, Blount is basically filling a purpose which is to run out the clock, if he was not here Ridley or Bolden would handle that responsibility.

Ivan said:

Threads like this demonstrate why it is so easy for the haters around here.Blount was trashed repeatedly by the "this is a crap roster, Belichick doesn't know what he is doing" crowd, yet when once again proven completely wrong they just go into silent mode and wait for their next opportunity to take a dump.

Click to expand...

glad i was one of the very few who loved the trade and predicted great things from Blount. YES, i am very impressed by, well, ME!

ouch. I think i just hurt my arm patting myself on the back

Brady6 said:

I am not diminishing it at all I clearly said that having a big back who can come in and pound it in the fourth quarter is a great asset to have on the team. I am not going to sit here and ignore the reality that many of Blount’s yards are gained against tired defenses in a game that has a decided outcome, Blount has not contributed to this team building a lead what he has done is help finish games.

I think people go overboard for players just because they see them do some dance that mimics Ray Lewis, yeah that’s great and all but is the running game is not better because of Blount it is just a different player carrying the ball at the end of the game. Ridley had 280 rushing yards and Bolden had 119 rushing yards in the 4th quarter last season so they combined for 399 rushing yards. This season you have Blount with 260 rushing yards and 4 touchdowns and Ridley with 127 rushing yards so they’ve combined for 387 rushing yards. I don’t see a drastic difference except for the name on the back of the jersey being different. That is what I mean by cause vs. correlation you and others speak as if Blount is the cause of this and we have never ran the ball at the end of games in the past but that is completely untrue, Blount is basically filling a purpose which is to run out the clock, if he was not here Ridley or Bolden would handle that responsibility.

Click to expand...

When we are in the 4th quarter of the playoffs, I am going to like Blount inserted to run the ball. In a vote for the fourth quarter RB of a tight game with the Patriots up by one score, my vote goes for Blount. Who are you voting for?

I kinda always liked this trade

Traded 2001 second round pick (#50-Dominic Raiola), 2001 sixth round pick (#173-Jason Glenn) to Lions for 2001 second round pick (#48-Matt Light) on 2001-04-21

Boston Boxer said:

glad i was one of the very few who loved the trade and predicted great things from Blount. YES, i am very impressed by, well, ME!

ouch. I think i just hurt my arm patting myself on the back

Click to expand...

Why would anyone jump up and down about a bubble player they got for Jeff Demps and a 7th?


Sorry about your arm?

merry christmas




All things considered it did work out pretty well for them.

scout said:

When we are in the 4th quarter of the playoffs, I am going to like Blount inserted to run the ball. In a vote for the fourth quarter RB of a tight game with the Patriots up by one score, my vote goes for Blount. Who are you voting for?

Click to expand...

I am not voting for Blount I can tell you that much.

• Ridley has 608 touches, 11 fumbles and 8 lost fumbles in his career.
• Blount has 593 touches, 11 fumbles and 8 lost fumbles in his career.

I would probably want the ball in the hands of Bolden who has never fumbled in his career or Vereen who has fumbled 1 time in his career. I you’re sitting there thinking that Blount is any more secure with the football than Ridley your wrong.

scout said:

When we are in the 4th quarter of the playoffs, I am going to like Blount inserted to run the ball. In a vote for the fourth quarter RB of a tight game with the Patriots up by one score, my vote goes for Blount. Who are you voting for?

Click to expand...

Depends upon who they are playing and what the situation is. If they need points and receiving yards it will be Ridley and Vereen, if it is to kill time then it will be Blount.

I actually see Blount as more of an early game RB who softens up the defense by actually putting the hurt on them, and then you bring him back at the end when they are trying to get the ball back, He's not a 1.500 yard back, he's a punisher, and has a real use as such. He also allows them to play a change of pace game because Ridley is much quicker but still runs strong inside. Great pick up for next to nothing, I don't know how anyone can b.tch about him.

Bella*chick said:

And when you think about it, Dillon got that that clock-killin' rep when he closed out games too…..in the fourth quarter. That's when you do the clock-killin, provided you have a lead!

Click to expand...

I don’t know how Dillon got that nickname but it certainly was not as a result of him gaining the majority of his yards in the 4th quarter like Blount does. Dillon was most effective in the 1st quarter and gained the least yardage of any quarter in the 4th quarter during his 3 seasons in New England.

2004 - QT, ATT, YDS, AVG, LNG, TD
QUARTER = 1 98 432 4.4 30 5
QUARTER = 2 81 363 4.5 38 3
QUARTER = 3 78 469 6.0 44 1
QUARTER = 4 88 371 4.2 20 3

2005 - QT, ATT, YDS, AVG, LNG, TD
QUARTER = 1 61 208 3.4 29 2
QUARTER = 2 47 157 3.3 14 3
QUARTER = 3 62 220 3.5 14 3
QUARTER = 4 39 148 3.8 14 4

2006 - QT, ATT, YDS, AVG, LNG, TD
QUARTER = 1 60 321 5.4 50 4
QUARTER = 2 37 146 3.9 17 6
QUARTER = 3 55 187 3.4 12 0
QUARTER = 4 47 158 3.4 17 3

Dillon was an every down back that is a could be HOF and Blount is a guy that we will probably let walk this offseason without as much as a qualifying offer. He is here and he is the biggest back so they’re using him as a grinder at the end of games, that’s about the extent of it, Blount is not doing anything special in fact our rushing attack is worse this season then it was in 2012.

Ivan said:

Depends upon who they are playing and what the situation is. If they need points and receiving yards it will be Ridley and Vereen, if it is to kill time then it will be Blount.

I actually see Blount as more of an early game RB who softens up the defense by actually putting the hurt on them, and then you bring him back at the end when they are trying to get the ball back, He's not a 1.500 yard back, he's a punisher, and has a real use as such. He also allows them to play a change of pace game because Ridley is much quicker but still runs strong inside. Great pick up for next to nothing, I don't know how anyone can b.tch about him.

Click to expand...

He isn’t any type of back he is just a roster player that is here so they’re getting the most out of him and putting him in the best positions to succeed. Don’t confuse Belichick understanding the best situations for a player for that player all of a sudden becoming this stud player.

Brandon Bolden has been more productive than Blount in his opportunities and I don’t see him with any threads opened comparing him to Corey Dillon.

The Ray Lewis dance really gave fans a dose of kool aid for Blount and people are about to label him a pro bowler. I cannot agree I see a player who made a cut back that went for 8 yards into a hole that if Ridley or Vereen hit likely would have went for 40 yards. I see a 250 lb. back lose run for no gain or a loss a higher rate of the time than the 205 lb. Vereen. I like the trade this season anyway because it gave us some quality depth as a number 3 RB but given the RB that left was Danny Woodhead and the one that came in was Blount I am far from overjoyed with the situation.

I would happily take last season:
Ridley
Woodhead
Vereen
Bolden

Over this season:
Ridley
Vereen
Blount
Bolden

Ivan said:

Depends upon who they are playing and what the situation is. If they need points and receiving yards it will be Ridley and Vereen, if it is to kill time then it will be Blount.

I actually see Blount as more of an early game RB who softens up the defense by actually putting the hurt on them, and then you bring him back at the end when they are trying to get the ball back, He's not a 1.500 yard back, he's a punisher, and has a real use as such. He also allows them to play a change of pace game because Ridley is much quicker but still runs strong inside. Great pick up for next to nothing, I don't know how anyone can b.tch about him.

Click to expand...

Gave the situation: it is the 4th quarter with the patriots up by one score.
Thus, the patriots are trying to run the clock and I want a fresh RB who pounds the ball and BTW, weighs 250 lbs.
In response to Brady6, don't care about fumbles in earlier games or career fumbles (what have you done for me lately). Run Ridley, Vereen, and Bolden and end the game with Blount.