That was pass interference

RayClay said:

Pereira starts out saying it's a terrible call, but quickly reveals that's only because it goes to the one yard line. If it's a 15 yard penalty? Not such a bad call, I guess. Same thing I've been saying for at least 5 years. If that play, right in front of the cameras and refs doesn't get called, tere's controversy on the other side.

Basically, if you don't mug the guy, it should be a 15 yard penalty, then you're not handing, or stealing a touchdown from either side.





Pereira: No, that definitely was NOT pass interference | FOX Sports on MSN

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And yet he defended way worse calls when he worked for the league. This game comes to mind The Sports Guy: Sore winner - ESPN Page 2

This is the most insane thread in years. Browns destroy Gronk's career due to the new rules and Pats fans are arguing with each other about a PI call that is probably not made in 2001. But in today's league will be called EVERY time.

Speaking about the refs. If Danny A's rape is called in the 1st half are we even having this conversation?

Did anyone watch the Donks game afterwards? Did they not get every call? Do you think Donks fans are complaining about the refs?

This was a huge win. Still hope for the #2 seed. Gronk or no Gronk. That would be a big accomplishment.

upstater1 said:

Thanks for chiming in.

Now convinced more than ever it was PI at the 5-8.

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The call was PI in the endzone. It didn't happen. It was a terrible call.

As for the 5 yard line thing, that was 2 players jockeying. Rodney Harrison doesn't think it was a penalty either. Lastly, it's you making the claim, and you're pretty reliably wrong, so that should cement it for pretty much everyone.

I saw the replay and it clearly showed either a tug or Boyce sold a tug. In today's NFL, that is pass interference and that gets a flag.

Not sure about the ball being at the 1 though. The tug happened around the 8 yard line so the spot should have been there I think. Pats would have likely scored anyway so it's moot.

JMO

The fact of the matter is if the Pats lost this game, the talk would be about the worse call of the non-fumble fumble when it looked pretty clear the ball was loose before the whistle blew yet they did not let Belichick challenge it. That play should have been ruled a fumble and would have been at least a 3 point swing if not more.

I don't think it should be PI, particularly for such yardage, but the way PI is called these days I think it's a reasonable call.

I hate the NFL on PI, but today it helped us.

I also think the contact on Boyce's arm is easy to underestimate. I think tat if you're going for a catch, even minimal contact on an arm could have a significant impact (kind of like a shooter in basketball)

I don't care if Boyce stabbed the browns corner and got the call. We've been screwed all season. We deserve a pass interference call for once. Edelman got ran INTO last week calling a fair catch and didn't get a call. Seriously...

It was a ticky tack call and if it had gone against us we'd all be screaming.

But after the ref's screwed up the fumble at the beginning of the game, the flag being picked up in Carolina, the call on the field goal at the end of the Jets game, ... well who knows what's a foul or what's not a foul anymore.

Other fans can say we didn't deserve it, but we have learned the hard way this year is that "deserve's got nothing to do with it".

I've seen Manning get calls where the defender never touched his receiver.

SB39 said:

Pereira is right. And so is Troy Brown. And Ty Law. In fact, you really can't find anyone outside this forum who thinks that was a good call.

Seriously, people. It won't kill you to admit Pats got the benefit of a bad call there.

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If Pereira is so sure it was the right call, why does he spend over half the article talking about penalties for PI being too severe?

It's because that was a marginal call. He'd be fine with it if it was a 15 yard penalty. What does the penalty matter if it was the correct call? It doesn't.

It was a judgment call and neither the receiver being screwed out of a touchdown, or the defense having to defend from the 1 yard line is right.

I don't think short of a beheading, Rodney has ever seen what he considers PI.

I don't see the PI in the endzone. It is clear, however, that Boyce was held and his progress impeded around the 8 yard line. This on a play where Boyce had a clear opportunity to make a play on the ball. Presuming the ball was in the air, that's where the ball should have been placed.

Haven't read the prior posts, but I said it wasn't PI during the real-time play. Looking t the replay, didn't seems liek a good call. I've seen far worse not being called.

Though, I think we as Patriots fans are due some calls landing our way, but other teams will use this 1 example as proof that we get all the calls and forgo all the ones we don't get. Like that fumble in the first quarter. what ref blows a play dead while the first guy to make contact is in the process of making the tackle and the receiver has had the ball for maybe .2 to .3 seconds.

Should have been a poll too

My apologies if this has been said already, but the officials have screwed up so many calls this season I think the argument can be made either way. What I do know is that Boyce got his finger tips on the ball and he was tugged or held (yes, even slightly) but it could have made a difference. Until the NFL or the officials can be more consistent with their calls, this type of call will always lead to a bitter discussion. I just hope it doesn't happen in the final minutes of the SB (unless it benefits the Pats, that is).

On a similar note regarding the officiating, when did they forget the rules for intentional grounding. Seen some bad calls with that over the past couple of weeks,

Bobs My Uncle said:

I don't see the PI in the endzone. It is clear, however, that Boyce was held and his progress impeded around the 8 yard line. This on a play where Boyce had a clear opportunity to make a play on the ball. Presuming the ball was in the air, that's where the ball should have been placed.

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He was touched in the end zone as well. Look at the replay.

Bobsyouruncle said:

I've seen Manning get calls where the defender never touched his receiver.

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I agree. And I hate those ticky tack calls too.

Patriots do not beat the Colts arena style teams in 03-04 if crap like that is called. They certainly don't beat the Rams in 01 if crap like that is called. You know, the Patriots teams that won Super Bowls?

If anyone wants to buy in to Polian's "enforce the rules" NFL, then fine, that was PI because technically the DB interfered with Boyce. However, please do not b1tch about the Broncos marching down the field with the aid of a bunch of yellow flags. It sucks, whether it benefits my team or not.

The Patriots have been the victim of several garbage calls this season that have cost them games. So like many of you, I make no apologies for benefitting from a weak PI call. I'll take it! But I will also still call it what it is.

It's ok to admit it. Tebow knows the Patriots have earned the right to benefit from a weak flag. How about we go with this?

By the letter of the law, it was PI. But A LOT worse usually doesn't get called there. Based on other calls that have gone against the Patriots, there is nothing to apologize for. If that PI call went against the Patriots, we would be pissssssed!

Or we could be like Broncos fans who whine every time Eric Decker flops on the ground and does that jerking-off motion that is supposed to mimic throwing a flag I think.

Can't have it both ways if you defend that PI call.

Or we could be like Broncos fans who whine every time Eric Decker flops on the ground and does that jerking-off motion that is supposed to mimic throwing a flag I think.

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LOL thanks for that man. I really needed that today.

And surprisingly, the guys on Jets Insider believe the Pats paid off the refs. Surprising for a group what are known for being some of the most level-headed and intelligent fans on the net.

The refs literally gave a game to the Patriots

yeah...if it wasn't for those holy, true green Jets the Pats would be 11-2...thank God Boger made the right call to move the ball 15 yards closer after THEIR missed field goal after NOT throwing the flag on a Pats possession in regulation that would have probably led to a Patriots victory. The Pats are such scumbags....thirteen years straight of little ****** Gaydy and that lousy coach Belichick.

I fart in the general direction of every Jet fan on the planet.

Tunescribe said:

He was touched in the end zone as well. Look at the replay.

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Perhaps ever so slightly. The tug @ the 8 was an obvious impediment which certainly looked to impact Boyce's ability to catch a ball that ultimately narrowly slipped past his fingertips.

I'm actually just as happy if we were the beneficiaries of a bad call as if Boyce caught it cleanly without contact from anyone. After having been screwed by the officials and the league all season, this episode of being manually stimulated to orgasm feels as good as full-blown coitus. Well, almost as good...