Gronk cleared to play !!!!

SoCal Pmen said:

Report just came out that he's questionable for Sunday. Probably to play mind games w/the Jets

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Unless you want to believe Felger's latest conspiracy that there's tension between Gronk and BB and BB might hold him out to show him who's boss. Of course squeaky Mazz not only finds this plausible but definitely think's they've been playing games in the media and gave him the black shirt in practice to tweak him.
I put it on this show for 5 minutes thinking Gronk's back, the Sox win, might be good to listen today and they come up with this ****, back to banning them.

SVN said:

Rob Gronkowski declares Patriots' return via YouTube - NFL.com

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He had an ad ready to go for when he was cleared to play?? Was Andrews waiting to clear him until post production was done??

I'm so glad he's back, but between partying in casts and having a video ready to drop for when he gets cleared to play, I wish to God he had an agent other than Rosenhaus telling him not to do things that make him seem ****ish.

RobAllan said:

He had an ad ready to go for when he was cleared to play?? Was Andrews waiting to clear him until post production was done??

I'm so glad he's back, but between partying in casts and having a video ready to drop for when he gets cleared to play, I wish to God he had an agent other than Rosenhaus telling him not to do things that make him seem ****ish.

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yeah, not sure what to make of it but as tom curran pointed of a week ago, for someone who is injured he has marketed himself well being everywhere else but the game. Releasing this video minutes after getting cleared looks kind of stupid.

Aw yeah - time to unleash the force pictured in my signature

SVN said:

yeah, not sure what to make of it but as tom curran pointed of a week ago, for someone who is injured he has marketed himself well being everywhere else but the game. Releasing this video minutes after getting cleared looks kind of stupid.

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It really does. If this was a player on another team I'd be writing a page long messageboard thesis about how it's selfish, putting himself above the team, etc. I'd be saying I'm so glad we don't have players like this on the Patriots, even if he is elite, etc. I'd probably even make some crack about how he'll probably be hurt within a game or two and then start a thread re-posting the video if it happens. (Because I'm a ruthless fan like that.)

But he IS on the Patriots and I love having him. So I'm a hypocrite? I guess so.

After seeing this, I expect him not to play. And it won't be because of the injury.

I agree. The RG3-style self-promotion is obnoxious. And I wish he would tell his agent to shut the *** up.

He should help the offense immensely in many ways that have already been mentioned. And just in time. I'm not sure it is fair to expect the D to carry the load at the moment.

He also released a "limited edition" T-shirt too, it all seems rather agent/money lead with the sponsored video and the shirts for sale all for a comeback.

cmasspatsfan said:

Unless you want to believe Felger's latest conspiracy that there's tension between Gronk and BB and BB might hold him out to show him who's boss. Of course squeaky Mazz not only finds this plausible but definitely think's they've been playing games in the media and gave him the black shirt in practice to tweak him.
I put it on this show for 5 minutes thinking Gronk's back, the Sox win, might be good to listen today and they come up with this ****, back to banning them.

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And that (the bolded part) is where you made a mistake.

RobAllan said:

He had an ad ready to go for when he was cleared to play?? Was Andrews waiting to clear him until post production was done??

I'm so glad he's back, but between partying in casts and having a video ready to drop for when he gets cleared to play, I wish to God he had an agent other than Rosenhaus telling him not to do things that make him seem ****ish.

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Agreed, it's pretty lame. Definitely prefer it when players are a little less about the self-promotion, but as long as he's steamrolling guys on Sunday I'm sure I'll find a way to look past it.

BradyFTW! said:

Agreed, it's pretty lame. Definitely prefer it when players are a little less about the self-promotion, but as long as he's steamrolling guys on Sunday I'm sure I'll find a way to look past it.

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Yeah, but if he doesnt perform as per expectations early on, all this can backfire. I dont know how someone who isnt cleared has time to create promo videos. Sure they were shot when he was rehabbing but a lot of it was just to promote. Hate to quote Albert breer but he said it right - for someone who acts and is portrayed as a grown up goofy kid, he is a capitalist.

BradyFTW! said:

Agreed, it's pretty lame. Definitely prefer it when players are a little less about the self-promotion, but as long as he's steamrolling guys on Sunday I'm sure I'll find a way to look past it.

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I hope I can find a way to look past it.

But I remember WW making some EXTREMELY funny foot puns at the expense of Rex Ryan and being benched for the start of a VERY important football game for them. I almost feel like if a couple of quirky quips before a Jets game is cause for punishment, then what on earth does a video and t-shirt release warrant?

I also admit that I really bought into the 2001-era team first/character thing. I feel like after years of watching the team struggle to find any sort of identity (and losing all along the way)... when the identity DID emerge and they started winning I was EXTREMELY proud of who the team was. It felt like legit character guys that were better than those around them were taking the field on Sundays and actually beating some of the hooligans, thugs, and egos on other teams. And it was awesome. And they got introduced together as a team when they ran through those gates. Gosh it was just so inspiring.

Then we experimented with Haynesworth, found out one of the team is a murderer, and now we've got this doofus pimping himself over an injury status.

I love the Pats and by extension these players, but at some point I'm going to wonder where my team is.

Maybe that's too deep of thinking for football. I'm probably just cranky because I haven't eaten.

RobAllan said:

I hope I can find a way to look past it.

But I remember WW making some EXTREMELY funny foot puns at the expense of Rex Ryan and being benched for the start of a VERY important football game for them. I almost feel like if a couple of quirky quips before a Jets game is cause for punishment, then what on earth does a video and t-shirt release warrant?

I also admit that I really bought into the 2001-era team first/character thing. I feel like after years of watching the team struggle to find any sort of identity (and losing all along the way)... when the identity DID emerge and they started winning I was EXTREMELY proud of who the team was. It felt like legit character guys that were better than those around them were taking the field on Sundays and actually beating some of the hooligans, thugs, and egos on other teams. And it was awesome. And they got introduced together as a team when they ran through those gates. Gosh it was just so inspiring.

Then we experimented with Haynesworth, found out one of the team is a murderer, and now we've got this doofus pimping himself over an injury status.

I love the Pats and by extension these players, but at some point I'm going to wonder where my team is.

Maybe that's too deep of thinking for football. I'm probably just cranky because I haven't eaten.

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boy, you guys sure know how to turn a positive into a negative.

RobAllan said:

I hope I can find a way to look past it.

But I remember WW making some EXTREMELY funny foot puns at the expense of Rex Ryan and being benched for the start of a VERY important football game for them. I almost feel like if a couple of quirky quips before a Jets game is cause for punishment, then what on earth does a video and t-shirt release warrant?

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The WW thing was different. He took a shot at an opposing coach and his family I guess so BB felt it was necessary. What gronk does outside of football, as long as it doesnt show the pats in a -ve light, dont think matters to BB to take any action. Totally irrelevant except it makes gronk look stupid -video and t shirt.

SVN said:

Yeah, but if he doesnt perform as per expectations early on, all this can backfire. I dont know how someone who isnt cleared has time to create promo videos. Sure they were shot when he was rehabbing but a lot of it was just to promote. Hate to quote Albert breer but he said it right - for someone who acts and is portrayed as a grown up goofy kid, he is a capitalist.

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I love these comments. Oh my oh my, how, just how does he find the time!

A shoot as simple as this, recorded during rehab, using some actual footage, and a 5 minute sitdown talking over the video clips. Yeah, I bet it took maybe 4 or 5 combined hours of Gronk's time over the past few months for his part.

Stop with these stupid comments aimed to attack a players motives. While these guys dedicate most of their days to football, they still get days off and they probably put in 8-12 hours a day of work depending on the agenda for that day. I'm not sure if this is common knowledge, but every day has 24 hours in it. That's a lot of hours, these players DO have free time, believe it or not.

I know, I know, it's crazy, right? We should write our congressmen and women and make it a law that these players must devote 16 hours a day to football and 8 hours of sleep per night. But hey, that's not the law.

If Gronk wants to promote himself, whatever, he's still maturing, he's probably the most talented and most impactful player on our team when he's playing. As long as his way of fun is some drinking nights and doing some self promotion and not putting harmful/banned substances into his body, we should look the other way.

There are far worse personalities in the NFL, if the team has an issue with it, they'll deal with it. Fans are too dead set on "the patriot way" and feel it must be enforced like marshal law and anything that sways just a tiny bit from it should be destroyed, it's sad. We're fans, we're supposed to have fun, football is a game.

The coaches coach, the players play, and we enjoy.

SVN said:

Yeah, but if he doesnt perform as per expectations early on, all this can backfire. I dont know how someone who isnt cleared has time to create promo videos. Sure they were shot when he was rehabbing but a lot of it was just to promote. Hate to quote Albert breer but he said it right - for someone who acts and is portrayed as a grown up goofy kid, he is a capitalist.

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There's plenty of time in the day. Doesn't take very long to shoot a promo; he probably did it during the same downtime that most of his teammates were chilling at home, visiting with their friends, etc.

Frankly, if this is how he's spending his free time, then that's probably a good sign; better promo videos than keg stands. While I'm not a huge fan of the self promotion, I don't take issue with the 'where does he find the time?' portion of things at all.

Belichick does not like to show his hand until he has to. We all know this. You may think it meaningless and stupid, but obviously Belichick does not.

Gronkowski and his agent doing their cheesy announcements that he is playing is NOT what the Patriots want. Gronkowski should know that. Either he is too dense to realize it (certainly possible), or he does not care (also possible).

Doing the video and announcing his status was putting himself before the team, even though most of us think it's not a big deal.

Either way, I'm glad he is back. The offense should show much more diversity and ability to move the ball effectively.

strngplyr said:

I love these comments. Oh my oh my, how, just how does he find the time!

A shoot as simple as this, recorded during rehab, using some actual footage, and a 5 minute sitdown talking over the video clips. Yeah, I bet it took maybe 4 or 5 combined hours of Gronk's time over the past few months for his part.

Stop with these stupid comments aimed to attack a players motives. While these guys dedicate most of their days to football, they still get days off and they probably put in 8-12 hours a day of work depending on the agenda for that day. I'm not sure if this is common knowledge, but every day has 24 hours in it. That's a lot of hours, these players DO have free time, believe it or not.

I know, I know, it's crazy, right? We should write our congressmen and women and make it a law that these players must devote 16 hours a day to football and 8 hours of sleep per night. But hey, that's not the law.

If Gronk wants to promote himself, whatever, he's still maturing, he's probably the most talented and most impactful player on our team when he's playing. As long as his way of fun is some drinking nights and doing some self promotion and not putting harmful/banned substances into his body, we should look the other way.

There are far worse personalities in the NFL, if the team has an issue with it, they'll deal with it. Fans are too dead set on "the patriot way" and feel it must be enforced like marshal law and anything that sways just a tiny bit from it should be destroyed, it's sad. We're fans, we're supposed to have fun, football is a game.

The coaches coach, the players play, and we enjoy.

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Calm down. I expressed an opinion and you yours. No need to go all congress on it and insinuate that he shouldn't have fun. IAm sure you were okay him havign fun body slamming people with a cast around his hand as well. I just found it stupid that right after he gets cleared by his doctors within minutes this promo comes out promoting a drink and T shirt. I have no problem him making money and didnt say follow the patriot way or anything . Just looks selfish. Any other player on any other team , we all would be mocking.

patsfan-1982 said:

Yessssssss

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Deus Irae said:

So.....

Brady
Ridley

Solder
Mankins
Wendell
Cannon/Connolly
Vollmer

Gronk
OHOH

Edelman
________________________ ?

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OHOH man now I knew it