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Saints fans still complaining about the refs


I like the thread where they post that pic of Edelman missing Brady for the high-five and launch into a discussion of Brady being disliked by his teammates and how they can't relate to him and his celebrity persona. Meanwhile Brees holds the Saints hostage until he gets his $20M/yr contract while Brady takes much less. Yeah, Brees is a real man of the people.
 
Anyone come across this gif, via Saints whiners?

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If so, feel free to respond with this:
(bad officiating really does go both ways)

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BTW - That "hold" was just one play before Brees's 3rd and 20 TD pass, too.

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common, like thats even close to a hold, compared to Gillette very possible sack.Arm choking and Solder even took time to put the other arm on the bottom spine to bend him back, please Solder was so beat on that play and desperate. He just got away with it.
 
...I imagine if the game had gone the other way, most of the people calling out Saints fans as being "whiners" or "losers" or whatever would probably be voicing their displeasure with the officiating as well.

My guess is, probably every team gets a win or two each year where the officiating plays a major factor, and a loss or two as well. No conspiracy, just the way it is.

Officating has gone way downhill in recent years, I don't really blame the refs for the most part, a lot of it is simply because the rule book has become so complicated and overwrought with tiny details that the spirit of the rules gets lost in the technicalities.

I mean, there was a game in 2011 in Tennessee I think we had where Graham had a touchdown called back because his foot moved one tiny little blade of grass that was out of bounds. Literally ONE blade of grass. And they're zoomed in on it as far as they can get, debating whether that one blade of grass moved for like 10 minutes during the review. I mean, really? This is what football has become? It's all messed up.

I think the issue is this: Patriots fans are tired of hearing this crap from team after team, especially after horrible calls (PI called for the already legalized "face guarding" in 2006, multiple blatant holds on the Tyree play) likely cost the Patriots a pair of Lombardi trophies.

It's become a constant mantra for the losing teams and their fans. The Patriots never beat teams, because those teams beat themselves, or the officials give the game to the Patriots. It's all we ever seem to hear. Then, in this past game, The Saints took the lead on a play where the WR clearly commited offensive pass interference (push with arms fully extended), and Saints fans have ignored that while deciding to piss and moan about that holding non-call.
 
I think the issue is this: Patriots fans are tired of hearing this crap from team after team, especially after horrible calls (PI called for the already legalized "face guarding" in 2006, multiple blatant holds on the Tyree play) likely cost the Patriots a pair of Lombardi trophies.

It's become a constant mantra for the losing teams and their fans. The Patriots never beat teams, because those teams beat themselves, or the officials give the game to the Patriots. It's all we ever seem to hear. Then, in this past game, The Saints took the lead on a play where the WR clearly commited offensive pass interference (push with arms fully extended), and Saints fans have ignored that while deciding to piss and moan about that holding non-call.

It's not like we don't constantly hear the same stuff from Vikings/Falcons/Panthers/Buccaneers/Cowboys/Eagles/Giants fans. That's what happens when you win lots of games.

We didn't lose that game because of officiating. We lost that game because Tom Brady was awesome. But the officiating was bad, so of course people are going to focus on it. There's no need to call out other team's fans across message boards talking about people being "whiners" or "piss and moan" or whatever other derogatory terms you want to use, because you know good and well if the Pats had lost the officiating would be a major topic of discussion over here too.

I'm gonna go ahead and bow out now, because enough has been said on both sides, I didn't come here to start trouble, but I don't really love the way this is heading. So I will simply bid you all good luck the rest of the season.
 
I think the issue is this: Patriots fans are tired of hearing this crap from team after team, especially after horrible calls (PI called for the already legalized "face guarding" in 2006, multiple blatant holds on the Tyree play) likely cost the Patriots a pair of Lombardi trophies.

It's become a constant mantra for the losing teams and their fans. The Patriots never beat teams, because those teams beat themselves, or the officials give the game to the Patriots. It's all we ever seem to hear. Then, in this past game, The Saints took the lead on a play where the WR clearly commited offensive pass interference (push with arms fully extended), and Saints fans have ignored that while deciding to piss and moan about that holding non-call.

No ones ruining anyones little personal parade Deus, its an adult discussion with us. Dont piss on my shoe and tell me its raining. Cry all you want for a yaforic unicorn hippy world win, but the refs decided that wasnt going to happen, and here we are with reality. Just like life things get messy sometimes, and helps noone when people try to nickaloan the world.
 
No ones ruining anyones little personal parade Deus, its an adult discussion with us. Dont piss on my shoe and tell me its raining. Cry all you want for a yaforic unicorn hippy world win, but the refs decided that wasnt going to happen, and here we are with reality. Just like life things get messy sometimes, and helps noone when people try to nickaloan the world.

This post of yours is the kind of garbage I'm talking about. You couldn't even concede obvious holds when they were shown to you, but you're going to keep pretending that it was the refs insidious plan that denied the Saints a win.

It's pathetic and, frankly, I expect that a whole lot of people here are seeing you in a different, and much less positive, light.
 
This post of yours is the kind of garbage I'm talking about. You couldn't even concede obvious holds when they were shown to you, but you're going to keep pretending that it was the refs insidious plan that denied the Saints a win.

It's pathetic and, frankly, I expect that a whole lot of people here are seeing you in a different, and much less positive, light.

we did hold Deus
 
We won and you can't blame our winning on a few questionable calls. The Saints lost, and it wasn't because of penalties, but rather because they didn't play a full 60.
 
Pherein joined the board back during the last Pats-Saints tilt that ended horribly for the Pats in 2009. He's been a great non-fan contributor for years, but eventually our teams had to face again.

Pherein, will you post with as much respect for the Pats as before? This game may have driven you out, haha.
 
common, like thats even close to a hold, compared to Gillette very possible sack.Arm choking and Solder even took time to put the other arm on the bottom spine to bend him back, please Solder was so beat on that play and desperate. He just got away with it.

Whats the difference? both are holds. both are critical.
 
They are asshat fans in my book. They seen to love the fact Mayo is hurt and gone for the season...
 
common, like thats even close to a hold, compared to Gillette very possible sack.Arm choking and Solder even took time to put the other arm on the bottom spine to bend him back, please Solder was so beat on that play and desperate. He just got away with it.



Pherein, you're a great fan, and I am glad you post here. I have no doubt you and I could sit down, and have brew together and talk football and never have a cross word. However, as someone who lives in New Orleans, and knows a good bit about the Saints, and their history, the Saints fans (and LSU for that matter) should be the LAST fans to ever complain about perceived "home cooking" in a game. I stopped counting all the "home cooking" that those two have gotten over the years. And, let's be honest here, and call a spade a spade, go back and take a good look and review of the 2009 NFC Championship game with the Vikings, and you will see what they were talking about when they complained of "home cooking". And for 4 years now, the Saints fans have just dismissed them as "whiners". I tell you, I have many family and friends are die hard "Who Dats" (which I am NOT), and they are so butt hurt right now, that their sour grapes is getting to be down right comical. With all their "conspiracy theories" floating around, I am sure they will next label Bill Belichick, or Tom Brady as the second gunman on the Grassy Knoll. And, quite frankly the Saints fans are beginning to look like fools across the entire country with this mantra.
 
It's not like we don't constantly hear the same stuff from Vikings/Falcons/Panthers/Buccaneers/Cowboys/Eagles/Giants fans. That's what happens when you win lots of games.

We didn't lose that game because of officiating. We lost that game because Tom Brady was awesome. But the officiating was bad, so of course people are going to focus on it. There's no need to call out other team's fans across message boards talking about people being "whiners" or "piss and moan" or whatever other derogatory terms you want to use, because you know good and well if the Pats had lost the officiating would be a major topic of discussion over here too.

I'm gonna go ahead and bow out now, because enough has been said on both sides, I didn't come here to start trouble, but I don't really love the way this is heading. So I will simply bid you all good luck the rest of the season.

The refs called a really good game.

They called PI right all day long. The Amendola hit wasn't a penalty, the hit on Thompkins was. The difference between the two is that one guy was running whole the other guy just turned and was defenseless. That's a penalty in today's NFL.

As for the false start, the Patriot defender reset a split second before the Saints OL moved. Now, if it were me, I'd have called it on the Patriots. But by the spirit of the rule, the Patriots D got back over the line when the Saints moved. That's a false start by definition. But I'd still give it to the Patriots because he barely got back over the line when the Saint moved.

I can see why they called OPI on Dobson and why they called no OPI on Stills, but I would hope for more consistency.

Lastly, the complaining about holding is just wrong. It happens just like that on every play.
 
Patriots may have lost Jerod Mayo for season - New Orleans Saints - Saints Report - Message Boards

Yep lost alot of respect for some Saints Fans. I know its a small majority but those forums are brutal. Karma is a *****? Really childish. I hope I never see a post on PatsFans celebrating an opponents injury or justifying it as karma.

These really are karmic situations. Celebrating injuries comes back and bites you in the butt. Every team gets hit with injuries. Including the Saints.
 
Pherein, you're a great fan, and I am glad you post here. I have no doubt you and I could sit down, and have brew together and talk football and never have a cross word. However, as someone who lives in New Orleans, and knows a good bit about the Saints, and their history, the Saints fans (and LSU for that matter) should be the LAST fans to ever complain about perceived "home cooking" in a game. I stopped counting all the "home cooking" that those two have gotten over the years. And, let's be honest here, and call a spade a spade, go back and take a good look and review of the 2009 NFC Championship game with the Vikings, and you will see what they were talking about when they complained of "home cooking". And for 4 years now, the Saints fans have just dismissed them as "whiners". I tell you, I have many family and friends are die hard "Who Dats" (which I am NOT), and they are so butt hurt right now, that their sour grapes is getting to be down right comical. With all their "conspiracy theories" floating around, I am sure they will next label Bill Belichick, or Tom Brady as the second gunman on the Grassy Knoll. And, quite frankly the Saints fans are beginning to look like fools across the entire country with this mantra.

This about sums up my experience as well. Saints fans are coming across as childish and pathetic.
 
Patriots may have lost Jerod Mayo for season - New Orleans Saints - Saints Report - Message Boards

Yep lost alot of respect for some Saints Fans. I know its a small majority but those forums are brutal. Karma is a *****? Really childish. I hope I never see a post on PatsFans celebrating an opponents injury or justifying it as karma.

Against my better judgement, I read that thread and came away with three observations:

- There are some level headed fans over there who "get it."

- Mayo was hurt before the final drive and the alleged officiating conspiracy. How does karma even apply there?

- Saints fans - Saints fans, of all people - are saying things like "cheaters never prosper" and "notice how the Patriots haven't won anything since they got caught cheating." I guessed they've blocked out the entire bounty system their team was running, the much harsher penalties the team received and how the same statements can be made about their team.
 
I thought the Patriots got an extra time out too when watching the game, but I watched on tivo and realized the problem was that Fox inaccurately took away a timeout thinking the Patriots had called one earlier in the fourth quarter when they didn't. The clock didn't stop. It took a while for them to figure out the mistake, but they got it correct.

As for the other team complaining after a tough loss, we do it too. Has anyone read the Cinci post-game thread? We're no different than they. Sure, every once in a while someone posts something like "I thought the Patriots got away with ____" and then declares themself the one true objective fan in the universe. But everyone watches a game through their own prism.

Interestingly, though, nobody is being unfair or "biased" in a pejorative sense. Perception is an extremely complicated phenomenon. It's more complicated than a pithy statement, but there is a great deal of truth to the axiom that one sees what one wants to see. But the point is that Saints fan truly do see the game different from how we do -- that is, they actually perceive it differently. Of all the information provided to their brains, their brains process and assimilated differently from how our brains see the exact same event. It's the nature of the business. Lots of great experiments about this. None more seminal and groundbreaking than the original word on the subject -- a 1954 scholarly journal about a game played in 1951 -- "They Played a Game." As the authors conclude, while one game was played, the only thing that ultimate matters is how the game was experienced by each of its viewers or even by those who didn't view it but heard about it and viewed it later. It's not just "a" game, but millions of games, every single one of them different. Selective Perception: They Saw A Game by Albert H. Hastorf & Hadley Cantril

Yea, that's what I said, The Saints fans are whiners:rolleyes:
 
- Saints fans - Saints fans, of all people - are saying things like "cheaters never prosper" and "notice how the Patriots haven't won anything since they got caught cheating." I guessed they've blocked out the entire bounty system their team was running, the much harsher penalties the team received and how the same statements can be made about their team.

They think it didn't exist and Goodell was making it up and using them as a scapegoat due to the concussion lawsuit. I'm not kidding. Saintsreport is a real gem at times.
 


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