Amendola - Limited w/Groin Injury

chumpchange said:

Missing 20 games in the last two seasons is.

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He happened to have his season ending surgery in the early weeks. Welker tore his acl in week 17. It's part luck ace.

Archeryaddict12 said:

He happened to have his season ending surgery in the early weeks. Welker tore his acl in week 17. It's part luck ace.

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Fine, then he's either the unluckiest guy in the NFL or he's just plain fragile. Either way, not inspiring a lot of a confidence.

chumpchange said:

Fine, then he's either the unluckiest guy in the NFL or he's just plain fragile. Either way, not inspiring a lot of a confidence.

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Fragile? They have been 2 freak injuries that forced him to stop. But remember we have Tom Brady, he methodically places the ball for his players safety and a spot only his player can usually get the ball.

Guy was millimeters from dying after the injury last year and he was back in 3 weeks. Wouldn't call him fragile

And if his dislocated arm would have happened in '12 or beyond he might not have missed 15 games with the way the current IR rule lets a player coming back.

MP-Logick said:

Let's overreact and accuse players of not being tough enough!

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Though I agree with you that some of us are overreacting, I also am a bit worried about the guy. Most of his injuries do seem to be of the "freak" variety, but the bottom line is he has missed more games that he's played in recent years. We can go on and on about how his measureables compare to Welker, as he is young and faster, but we always knew Welker would be in uniform every Sunday. We can't say that definitively about Amendola.

PatsBoy12 said:

We can go on and on about how his measureables compare to Welker, as he is young and faster, but we always knew Welker would be in uniform every Sunday.

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Except for the playoffs a few years ago because he tripped over himself the last game of the season.

Bruins29 said:

Except for the playoffs a few years ago because he tripped over himself the last game of the season.

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And I guess you've never seen that kind of injury before? It happens. It was one freak injury and he was ready for game 1 the following season, a season in which he still caught more than 100 balls even as the coaching staff was benching him early in the season for whatever reason.

I don't know what you're getting at, but your argument here is just not valid. Welker IS more dependable than Amendola to this point. Maybe that changes, but as of now it is what it is. Would you bet your salary that Amendola plays a full season?

PatsBoy12 said:

And I guess you've never seen that kind of injury before? It happens. It was one freak injury and he was ready for game 1 the following season, a season in which he still caught more than 100 balls even as the coaching staff was benching him early in the season for whatever reason.

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It seems to me that you're forgetting the 2010 season ever existed. Welker caught 86 balls.

JMC00 said:

Guy was millimeters from dying after the injury last year and he was back in 3 weeks. Wouldn't call him fragile

And if his dislocated arm would have happened in '12 or beyond he might not have missed 15 games with the way the current IR rule lets a player coming back.

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I agree with your general thoughts, but he definitely wasn't back in "3 weeks" either.

Here's what really happened:

"Danny Amendola has confirmed that he will be back in action for the St. Louis Rams in Week 10 following the team's Bye Week this weekend.

"Yeah, absolutely," Amendola said, according to an Associated Press report (via ESPN.com). "I'm ready to come back and I'm ready to do what I can."

Before being injured in the second quarter of the team's Week 5 game against Arizona, the Rams WR was among league leaders with 34 receptions and 395 yards receiving.

That's at least 5 weeks right there.

PatsBoy12 said:

And I guess you've never seen that kind of injury before? It happens. It was one freak injury and he was ready for game 1 the following season, a season in which he still caught more than 100 balls even as the coaching staff was benching him early in the season for whatever reason.

I don't know what you're getting at, but your argument here is just not valid. Welker IS more dependable than Amendola to this point. Maybe that changes, but as of now it is what it is. Would you bet your salary that Amendola plays a full season?

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I dont have to bet anything. I am not the one making silly claims to back a continued fallacy.

Would you bet your salary that WW goes a whole season without saying something stupid in the media and dropping a key pass? He already muffed a punt in his first game giving the other team the ball on the one yard line.

The WWW thing is over done, boring, and old and tired. He dosent play for us anymore and never will again most likely. Its time for some people to move on and support our players.

PatsBoy12 said:

Though I agree with you that some of us are overreacting, I also am a bit worried about the guy. Most of his injuries do seem to be of the "freak" variety, but the bottom line is he has missed more games that he's played in recent years. We can go on and on about how his measureables compare to Welker, as he is young and faster, but we always knew Welker would be in uniform every Sunday. We can't say that definitively about Amendola.

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I just prefer to wait until he starts missing games for us before crucifying him.

People like to pretend that Welker never tore his ACL because happened to do it at basically the most convenient time as far as not missing games. It was a freak non-contact injury that would've cost him a year and 16+ games had it happened a few months earlier. People get hurt sometimes.

chumpchange said:

Fine, then he's either the unluckiest guy in the NFL or he's just plain fragile. Either way, not inspiring a lot of a confidence.

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I get your concerns, but the reality is that he's had 3 out of 4 productive seasons, and the one that wasn't productive was the one where he missed the entire season from getting injured in week #1 prior to the NFL installing the IR exempt rule.

Even last year he still appeared in 11 of 16 games and had 64 catches.

Basically we're looking at one bad injury where it occurred in the beginning of the season, the other 3 yrs have been fine.

MP-Logick said:

I just prefer to wait until he starts missing games for us before crucifying him.

People like to pretend that Welker never tore his ACL because happened to do it at basically the most convenient time as far as not missing games. It was a freak non-contact injury that would've cost him a year and 16+ games had it happened a few months earlier. People get hurt sometimes.

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Oh I hear you. I'm not crucifying him at all. I was merely responding to the people who are trying to act like it's sacrilege to be concerned with his durability. Wes tearing his ACL was a freak injury that could happen to any player at any time. He was an iron man before and after that injury.

Bruins29 said:

I dont have to bet anything. I am not the one making silly claims to back a continued fallacy.

Would you bet your salary that WW goes a whole season without saying something stupid in the media and dropping a key pass? He already muffed a punt in his first game giving the other team the ball on the one yard line.

The WWW thing is over done, boring, and old and tired. He dosent play for us anymore and never will again most likely. Its time for some people to move on and support our players.

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And this response is precisely why I'm bowing out of this argument. You obviously have an agenda and no amount of logic or sound reasoning will change anything about your viewpoint. I'll end by saying Welker has played more games than he's missed in his career. We cannot say the same thing about Amendola to this point. I hope he plays a full season in the Patriot uniform.

Here's to a good season, Patriot family. Have a good night.

PatsBoy12 said:

You obviously have an agenda and no amount of logic or sound reasoning will change anything about your viewpoint. .

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Agenda? Yeah my agenda is WW dosent play for us anymore DA does. Who gives a s h i t about what happened in the past.

How much logic will it take to change my viewpoint and more importantly why should it be changed?

supafly said:

I agree with your general thoughts, but he definitely wasn't back in "3 weeks" either.

Here's what really happened:

"Danny Amendola has confirmed that he will be back in action for the St. Louis Rams in Week 10 following the team's Bye Week this weekend.

"Yeah, absolutely," Amendola said, according to an Associated Press report (via ESPN.com). "I'm ready to come back and I'm ready to do what I can."

Before being injured in the second quarter of the team's Week 5 game against Arizona, the Rams WR was among league leaders with 34 receptions and 395 yards receiving.

That's at least 5 weeks right there.

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He got injured Week 5 against Arizona. Missed the games against Miami, GB and NE Week 6-8, their bye was Week 9 and he was back Week 10 and had 11 Rec for 102 yards against SF (would have been more yards but the Rams LT was called for illegal formation)

Everyone rails on him about games missed, so one of the weeks he missed was during the bye which technically wasn't a game missed.

Therefore he only missed 3 weeks (or games, if you will).

JMC00 said:

Everyone rails on him about games missed, so one of the weeks he missed was during the bye which technically wasn't a game missed.

Therefore he only missed 3 weeks (or games, if you will).

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That's fair enough when you point out the factor of the bye week. I didn't count that myself but I agree that I was wrong due to that aspect.

I will assume that the other 2 games came after that then, more towards the end of the year? The ankle problem is what I'm assuming?

He played in 11 games, so I assumed the 5 missed were due to the clavicle in the middle of the year. I had him on my FF team, but can't remember the specifics as to what the other 2 games would be.

Either way we're in agreement with the overall point. He was quite productive in 3 of 4 seasons, so I can't understand why so many harp on the fact that he got hurt early in his 3rd season and missed 15 games due to the injury. That said, this one's going to be a continuous controversial topic until he proves his durability to those who doubt him.

LOL @ people defending Amendola's injuries after only completing 1 of 4 seasons. And can't even start week 1 this season without being on the injury report.

naF staP said:

LOL @ people defending Amendola's injuries after only completing 1 of 4 seasons. And can't even start week 1 this season without being on the injury report.

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???

He's had 3 out of 4 pretty productive seasons. And FWIW--he didn't play in the first 2 games of his rookie season, so he's "completed" 2 yrs, not one. The other year he played in 11/16 games.

Aside from missing 15 games in one year, he's only missed 5 others in his four yr career.

You can't understand the other side of the coin? That honestly makes you "LOL?"

When it comes to football players and injuries...

Teams are REQUIRED to list player injuries on a report....


Teams LIMIT players practice so the injuries won't be aggravated in practice...


Players PLAY on game day with tape and shots to reduce pain.....

Amendola will be fine....:rocker: