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I'd suggest that it is a basic, entry-level responsibility of a professional athlete, in any sport, to do the personal emotional growth work that allows him to not have his mindset and concentration affected by the behavior of other players.

And, I'd suggest that the Patriots players and coaches don't care what the other teams think of them. They don't care if they think they are "easy to push around." Reality shows up on the playing field, and the Patriots aren't going to play differently because of the state of mind of another team. And any team that gets a false sense of confidence because of what your refer to is actually being set up for a surprise on the field, which works in the Patriot's favor.

When you say, "you can't allow that to happen" I hear weakness, not strength.

For some reason, I'm seeing Bart Scott kick a ball out of the end zone for a 15-yard penalty that allows the Pats to keep their perfect season alive...
 
This thread is moronic. Out of all the problems last night, the fact the Patriots didn't tear the crap out of some punk that Brady pretty much LOLed at is your biggest concern? We could be focusing on the shaky O-line, the turnovers, the lack of anyone competent playing safety besides Devin McCourty- you know, actual football- but instead you want to make a big stink about NEEDIN TO SHOW WHOS BOSS GRRRRAWWWRRRR BECAUSE THIS WORKED ON MY HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY TEAM AND BELICHICK SHOULD TRY IT TOOOO

There's a difference between being more 'physical' and giving a **** about jr high spats. The Patriots lost to the Ravens last year partially because they got outmuscled I guess- but there's a lot of technical football things that went wrong too, that chalking up to something some primitive-cave man would conclude, "WE NEED TO SHOW WE CANT BE PUSHED AROUND," is idiotic. Should we have asked Hernandez to try to execute Ray Lewis on field (oh man)? Or maybe the team just needs better players and better execution?
Good post. Nice to see some higher order thinking. I don't necessarily agree with all of your points, but you hit a few out of the park. Well-done.
 
That's hard to watch, but retaliating is not the right thing to do. As we saw with Antonio Smith (although in a pretty extreme example), Goodell is willing to suspend guys during the regular season for something that happens during the preseason. So if Mankins takes out Young and starts a brawl with punches being thrown, it's not absurd to think that there could be regular season ramifications. There's no reason to risk that.
Retaliators sometimes get the flag thrown on them since the refs don't see the original offense, but there's no way in the world Mankins gets a suspension if he comes to Brady's defense there. And I have ZERO doubt whatsoever that if any of the linemen had seen it, they would have done just that. The problem was that the dirty play was so uncalled for and out-of-nowhere that none of them were watching.... they were concentrating on the action downfield.
 
That's hard to watch, but retaliating is not the right thing to do. As we saw with Antonio Smith (although in a pretty extreme example), Goodell is willing to suspend guys during the regular season for something that happens during the preseason. So if Mankins takes out Young and starts a brawl with punches being thrown, it's not absurd to think that there could be regular season ramifications. There's no reason to risk that.

If I was a ref, and I saw someone punch Richie Incognito, I'd just assume that he had instigated it and flag him.
 
It was a punk act, regardless of who the QB was and regardless of who the DL is. Guy's not going to be in the NFL long doing crap like that.
 
Retaliating will cost the team 15 yards.

Let other teams be idiots and let the Pats have the free 15 yards.

BINGO!!! end the thread on the second post!

If you must retaliate do so on the next play. There is no rule you can't be a douche back, but there is a rule about being an idiot back.

Schwartz did not bench him out of respect for Brady. Schwartz benched him because his idiocy got a five yarder and automatic first down. (Or was it 15 yards, I forget.)
 
This time it was this guy getting in Brady's face, another time it was Suggs launching himself at Brady's knee. Obviously the latter is a bigger worry.

Bottom line is, I hope someone on the field polices this crap and lets other teams know if they think they can do whatever they want with our QB they WILL pay the price.
 
I have a feeling that that 7th round pick's most memorable moment in this league is going to be getting in TB's face in a preseason game.
 
Some 7th round draft pick Lions stiff got in Brady's face last night (and quickly benched, to Schwartz's credit).

That got me thinking about the comments in the game thread last night that teams know this team won't physically retaliate anymore for this crap and that's too bad... and the book is out on Brady to try and intimidate him.

They have to get nastier or teams will keep trying to push us around.


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Can we claim this guy was eye gouging Brady or try to eye gouge him?

I remember fans of other teams claiming Wilfork did that after he pointed his finger in a similar fashion at Brandon Jacobs several years ago. Do we get to just make stuff up also?
 
I don't know. Brady should've got back in this thug's face, like he got in Sugg's face a few years ago. Instead of letting this punk drag him to the side and put his finger in his face and do nothing, except shout for the ref.
I do agree with some, Belichick has got to put some manliness and toughness back into this team, how can they intimidate teams, by allowing opposing teams to talk *** and bully them around and not do anything about it and still get whupped in the end. It's like the Jets, Giants and Ravens all over again. Who cares about letting plays do the talking for you? Even if they did beat those teams, fans of other teams are gonna still look and be like, "Brady got scared", "Brady's a punk", "Brady let that boy get in his face and said or did nothing!" and that will make it ok for all the teams and young punks to do this to Brady.
 
I would pay front row game ticket prices to see various Patsfans lecture the players about their lack of manliness. If this means I'm liable for the medical bills then I rescind this post.
 
I don't know. Brady should've got back in this thug's face, like he got in Sugg's face a few years ago. Instead of letting this punk drag him to the side and put his finger in his face and do nothing, except shout for the ref.
I do agree with some, Belichick has got to put some manliness and toughness back into this team, how can they intimidate teams, by allowing opposing teams to talk *** and bully them around and not do anything about it and still get whupped in the end. It's like the Jets, Giants and Ravens all over again. Who cares about letting plays do the talking for you? Even if they did beat those teams, fans of other teams are gonna still look and be like, "Brady got scared", "Brady's a punk", "Brady let that boy get in his face and said or did nothing!" and that will make it ok for all the teams and young punks to do this to Brady.

You're way off base and completely wrong.
 
I would pay front row game ticket prices to see various Patsfans lecture the players about their lack of manliness. If this means I'm liable for the medical bills then I rescind this post.

I'm in, I'd be thrilled to tell all 80+ Patriots to their faces that they played like a bunch of ****ies and should be ashamed of themselves for their performance and for letting that ******* live after getting in Brady's face. I bet all of them would agree.
 
You're Gisele, admit it.
 
Lions play like cheap shot punks all night, take several personal foul penalties and then bench the 7th round pick. This is why they're a perennial 4-12 team and why their head coach is headed for unemployment.
 
I don't know. Brady should've got back in this thug's face, like he got in Sugg's face a few years ago. Instead of letting this punk drag him to the side and put his finger in his face and do nothing, except shout for the ref.
I do agree with some, Belichick has got to put some manliness and toughness back into this team, how can they intimidate teams, by allowing opposing teams to talk *** and bully them around and not do anything about it and still get whupped in the end. It's like the Jets, Giants and Ravens all over again. Who cares about letting plays do the talking for you? Even if they did beat those teams, fans of other teams are gonna still look and be like, "Brady got scared", "Brady's a punk", "Brady let that boy get in his face and said or did nothing!" and that will make it ok for all the teams and young punks to do this to Brady.

I changed nothing but just added emphasis.

Do you want to rephrase that? If you tell me they win but the other teams FANS will think, um, anything... um, well.

I assume you have a point, but I'm not seeing it.
 
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