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I know a lot of people here try and discredit TMZ, but they've been as accurate as any other media outlet in it's reporting on the Hernandez murder case. This kind of makes sense.

That report could be completely correct; and maybe he was paranoid. Still doesn't make sense to go way out of your way to kill a friend who has nothing to do with his gang past
 
We have 20-20 hindsight here but given Light's comments, etc. it does seem like massive fail on the Pats org, in particular not protecting themselves with a conduct based contract escape clause. I bet Kraft has had some heated words with BB over the loss of his million$, and far worse the permanent damage to the Patriots brand. Not good. Not good at all.

And if this season goes down the toilet, which is a possibility of undertermined distinction,
then sometime between drinks & bimbos, Kraft needs to decide if Bill should remain the one
& only decision-maker of his franchise or "brand."
 
I know my life would've turned out differently. My soul would be less dark than it is now.

LOL. You know, it would have been hard to watch the 3 Games to Glory though. It would have been very weird at the very least.
 
One of his college portraits:

Well, that all there needs to be said, no? What a moron. I can't believe this idiot threw all this away. And for what? Glory in the hood? Nothing more than an idiot.
 
We have 20-20 hindsight here but given Light's comments, etc. it does seem like massive fail on the Pats org, in particular not protecting themselves with a conduct based contract escape clause. I bet Kraft has had some heated words with BB over the loss of his million$, and far worse the permanent damage to the Patriots brand. Not good. Not good at all.

I would go so far to speculate that this will cost someone a job in foxboro. Who it is, I have no clue. It just seems to me that someone would have to take the fall for this deal.
 
I would go so far to speculate that this will cost someone a job in foxboro. Who it is, I have no clue. It just seems to me that someone would have to take the fall for this deal.

I agree actually. Its really bad business, a waste of money but more importantly a huge black eye for the franchise. Granted they cut him immediately but this will linger and fans from other teams will dine on this for a while. Just like we do with the Ravens and Lewis.

This might be the biggest black eye for Boston sports ever. Although Craig MacTavish did kill an innocent woman drunk driving while on the Bruins.
 
I agree actually. Its really bad business, a waste of money but more importantly a huge black eye for the franchise. Granted they cut him immediately but this will linger and fans from other teams will dine on this for a while. Just like we do with the Ravens and Lewis.

This might be the biggest black eye for Boston sports ever. Although Craig MacTavish did kill an innocent woman drunk driving while on the Bruins.

Well, the Ravens glorified Lewis and continue to do so. That will not happen here. It will be as if AH never existed.

I think the unfortunate thing is that there were indeed many red flags on this guy when he was drafted. I mean you don't just tumble down from the first to the fourth because you smoked pot once or twice. Please. If his gang affiliations were known, and it appears they were, guns and killing is not exactly a great leap. So even if they didn't think he'd be a murderer, the chances of him being involved in something gun or shooting related were elevated.

Well, I'm sure the Patriots weren't the first FO to take a chance on a guy like this. It just backfired drastically on us. The thing is we aren't supposed to be like other FOs. We are supposed to be smarter. This definitely puts a tarnish on the brand. For however long, who knows. But as of now, yes, it does. How could it not? This idiot is alleged to be running out gunning people down while we forked over 40 million dollars to him. It makes me sick.
 
Zolak made a great point today. None of us has read ANY testimonials from friends or relatives or former teammates, NOBODY has stepped forward to tell us what a good person AH is and how he just went off the rails. Nobody is stepping up to say this is a good guy gone bad.
Now we have one of the highly respected former teammates of AH saying how he could never embrace anything that AH stood for in his life.
What a damning comment from a team leader and a guy who was in that locker room every single day. Just amazing how Patriots management embraced Aaron Hernandez to the tune of $40 million when his own teammates would not embrace him.
BTW, this is not a second guess on my part. I was thrilled they signed AH when they did. What I'm amazed at is how the Hernandez personna (the attitude, the lifestyle, the gangsta friends) that we've found out about in recent days was known to the Patriots all along, how his teaammates were repelled by it and how it was/is so contrary to what the Patriots want on their team and in their locker room.

You know what, though, Bob Kraft is a different type of owner/boss/human being than the stereotypical narcissists who buy sports teams to feather their own caps. If you've ever met him, you are struck with a genuine "ordinary guy" attitude he has about himself and his life. He is a genuinely good human being, from everything I've ever read about, from what friends and associates of his have told me about him, and from what I came away with after meeting him and his wife in Houston before the Carolina SB. A 45 minute conversation, mostly with Myra, and I felt like I had known these folks all my life.

The idea of turning around the life of a kid like Hernandez had to be very appealing to Kraft (and to BB, given his military upbringing). He doesn't just want to make money, he wants to do good things.

I'm sure Mr. Kraft's heart is broken today.
 
I would go so far to speculate that this will cost someone a job in foxboro. Who it is, I have no clue. It just seems to me that someone would have to take the fall for this deal.

It won't be BB.
That said, as a former VP I know that if one of my employees whom I should have vetted got a big position and huge corporate payout that was public because I went to the mat for it, and we were in the business of directly pleasing the public with our product, I'd likely be gone.
 
Well, the Ravens glorified Lewis and continue to do so. That will not happen here. It will be as if AH never existed.

I think the unfortunate thing is that there were indeed many red flags on this guy when he was drafted. I mean you don't just tumble down from the first to the fourth because you smoked pot once or twice. Please. If his gang affiliations were known, and it appears they were, guns and killing is not exactly a great leap. So even if they didn't think he'd be a murderer, the chances of him being involved in something gun or shooting related were elevated.

Well, I'm sure the Patriots weren't the first FO to take a chance on a guy like this. It just backfired drastically on us. The thing is we aren't supposed to be like other FOs. We are supposed to be smarter. This definitely puts a tarnish on the brand. For however long, who knows. But as of now, yes, it does. How could it not? This idiot is alleged to be running out gunning people down while we forked over 40 million dollars to him. It makes me sick.

Disagree and agree.
Disagree that you don't risk a lowly 4th on a talent that has "issues".
Agree that you don't spend a cap and real $ fortune on such a risky past player without BOTH vetting him more thoroughly (Hello! BB and security, this means you) AND protecting yourself via contract language.
 
It won't be BB.
That said, as a former VP I know that if one of my employees whom I should have vetted got a big position and huge corporate payout that was public because I went to the mat for it, and we were in the business of directly pleasing the public with our product, I'd likely be gone.

Doubt that BB would have made this decision in a vacuum, pretty confident that his security staff and Mr. Kraft provided input..

Might think that they beef up the security/investigation aspect of that department before they extend anyone with questionable character..

Remember the stories about how before they drafted anyone they asked everyone in the college questions about the guy in who might be drafted???
 
I know a lot of people here try and discredit TMZ, but they've been as accurate as any other media outlet in it's reporting on the Hernandez murder case. This kind of makes sense.

It does make sense...one cannot just leave the gang. Or Scientology. :rolleyes:
 
Doubt that BB would have made this decision in a vacuum, pretty confident that his security staff and Mr. Kraft provided input..

Might think that they beef up the security/investigation aspect of that department before they extend anyone with questionable character..

Remember the stories about how before they drafted anyone they asked everyone in the college questions about the guy in who might be drafted???

It IS possible that Kraft himself was eager for the deal in that he possibly felt instrumental in salvaging the young man from a former bad life. Just pure naive mis-judgement.
 
That report could be completely correct; and maybe he was paranoid. Still doesn't make sense to go way out of your way to kill a friend who has nothing to do with his gang past

So, how do you know this as fact?
 
"Oh, yeah, sure, I knew he was going to be a murderer."

- Pretty much everyone, after anyone does something terrible.

This hindsight stuff is annoying. If Hernandez' gang affiliations and criminal behavior was so obvious, the organization would've known about it, and we wouldn't have re-upped him.

Exactly, it's one thing to take a 4th round flier on a guy and it's another to actually commit 8 years to him. Whatever little the organization knew when drafting him, they knew just as little at the time they extended him.
 
Aside from tattoos, there may not have been a lot of other signs, and his previous troubles could have appeared to have been in the past.. all of this stuff seems to have happened in a relatively short period of time..

I wonder if he was a "gang wanna be guy", which can sometimes be more dangerous than an actual gang member.. sure they will look at a few more unsolved homicides that he and his posse might be linked to.

His tattoos may tell a story, and usually gang experts in corrections can figure a lot of stuff out by studying them..

He was in a gang in high school...
 
And if this season goes down the toilet, which is a possibility of undertermined distinction,
then sometime between drinks & bimbos, Kraft needs to decide if Bill should remain the one
& only decision-maker of his franchise or "brand."

Decided. Bill remains decision maker, but takes a class in tattoo interpretation.
 
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