Seattle to go to the SB IMO.They are a wagon right now.

If they were to meet in the Super Bowl, Sherman would get absolutely torched by Brady and the offense, just like that long-since-forgotten Steelers DB who talked trash and got absolutely pummeled the next time around.

The Seahawks have good team speed and some nice athletes, but their slow start vs. Washington makes me wonder about their collective football IQ.

Ivan said:

I don't really disagree with this but you do have to realize that most fans have a hard time with trash talk when it comes from a team that has never accomplished anything, and the teams in that category tend to have a hard time accomplishing much. The Eagles are a great example of this phenomena. I like the way the Hawks play football and definitely see them as a team on the rise. I would love to see them play NE in a neutral setting and as a Patriot's fan believe NE would win that match-up, but it certainly wouldn't be easy. The patriots couldn't use the hurry up effectively in Seattle but would be able to do so in N.O. and i think it would wear the Hawks defense down very effectively.

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I see what you're saying, but I have to disagree on the "accomplished vs not-accomplished" part. I personally am not a big fan of trash talking either, but I don't think having more superbowl rings makes one trash talk better or more valid than another. Every season the slate is wiped clean and nobody on the field gives a crap about what you did the year before. If some guy on the 49ers defense acted like Richard Sherman, I don't think that makes it more right just because they have multiple championships. That guy probably wasn't even born yet when they won those championships.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

If they were to meet in the Super Bowl, Sherman would get absolutely torched by Brady and the offense

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I highly doubt it. If the two teams do meet, BB & company would be well advised to target Browner (overrated IMO) and stay away from Sherman. Dude's legit.

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The Seahawks have good team speed and some nice athletes, but their slow start vs. Washington makes me wonder about their collective football IQ.

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Come on man...it was a rookie QB's first playoff game on the road. Give the kid some slack.

JackBauer said:

I highly doubt it. If the two teams do meet, BB & company would be well advised to target Browner (overrated IMO) and stay away from Sherman. Dude's legit.

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Browner is not a great cover-guy. He is good because of his physicality. He's not as quick and athletic as Sherman and he can get burned deep.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

If they were to meet in the Super Bowl, Sherman would get absolutely torched by Brady and the offense, just like that long-since-forgotten Steelers DB who talked trash and got absolutely pummeled the next time around.

The Seahawks have good team speed and some nice athletes, but their slow start vs. Washington makes me wonder about their collective football IQ.

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Thing is, Sherman has more natural talent in his ring finger than Anthony Smith had in his entire body.

JackBauer said:

I highly doubt it. If the two teams do meet, BB & company would be well advised to target Browner (overrated IMO) and stay away from Sherman. Dude's legit.

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Agreed. Browner's definitely the weak link in that secondary. Sherman and Thomas are both really, really good, and Chancellor seems to be solid at what he does. Whoever they put Browner on, though, I would expect Brady to target early and often if they meet again.

Patradomous said:

The Seahawk team that beat the Pats are not the same team either. They are much better.
If you talk about the football season starting in december check out the Hags. Best team in football.Hands down.
6 straight wins. Including 3 on the road.

of all the talk about RG3. Russ Wilson is not exactley chopped liver either.

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Please stop. The team with the most consecutive wins is in Denver. If that's your measuring stick, the Seahawks aren't close, since the Broncos have won 11 straight.

BradyFTW! said:

Agreed. Browner's definitely the weak link in that secondary. Sherman and Thomas are both really, really good, and Chancellor seems to be solid at what he does. Whoever they put Browner on, though, I would expect Brady to target early and often if they meet again.

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With Clemons out, you spread that Seahawks defense out and spend the day destroying Chancellor, who's physical but weak in coverage, with Gronk and Hernandez.


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New England Seahawks said:

I see what you're saying, but I have to disagree on the "accomplished vs not-accomplished" part. I personally am not a big fan of trash talking either, but I don't think having more superbowl rings makes one trash talk better or more valid than another. Every season the slate is wiped clean and nobody on the field gives a crap about what you did the year before. If some guy on the 49ers defense acted like Richard Sherman, I don't think that makes it more right just because they have multiple championships. That guy probably wasn't even born yet when they won those championships.

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I think it's more a matter of being competitive and winning games in the playoffs year in and year out than "did the team win some Super Bowls long before any of the players on it were even in the NFL?".

Teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Giants, etc. are more entitled to talk a bit of trash, IMO, not because of the SB's that each team won over a decade ago, but because they're all in the playoffs more often than not, and they win playoff games when they get there. The are a .500 team through three seasons with Pete Carroll as coach, and that's with the NFC West being the worst division in the NFL for the bulk of his tenure. Until they sustain this year's success for a couple of seasons, they'll be yet another new arrival that may or may not last. There are multiple teams like that every season, and they're all just as convinced that their team has a limitless ceiling as you are. The Chargers used to see themselves in pretty much the same way.

Deus Irae said:

With Clemons out, you spread that Seahawks defense out and spend the day destroying Chancellor, who's physical but weak in coverage, with Gronk and Hernandez.


Just my $.02

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I like this strategy, with a few runs directly at Bruce Irvin for balance.

Deus Irae said:

With Clemons out, you spread that Seahawks defense out and spend the day destroying Chancellor, who's physical but weak in coverage, with Gronk and Hernandez.


Just my $.02

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That's why I think that Tony Gonzalez needs to be a central part of the Falcons' game plan this weekend. Funnel the passing offense through him, force those safeties to come up, and THEN attack downfield in the passing game to whomever Sherman isn't covering (most likely White). Do that, and they should be able to win. But if they do what I think they are going to do, and center the passing attack around both WR's, they play into Seattle's hands on defense.

TheBostonStraggler said:

Yes....... and go even further than that. The Skins offense was so bad after the first two possessions that Seattle was getting the ball back over and over automatically and in short order. After the Skins second TD, I can barely remember them being on the field for more than a minute or so. That is a lot to ask of any defense to be on the field that long to come up with stop after stop after stop.
I seriously doubt the Falcons will give the Hawks that much time of possession. I doubt that will allow the Hawks to gain another lofty rushing total. And while I agree Seattle isn't some long shot to win, it's hilarious to see them being given such a high chance of winning. I suspect the Falcons will in fact prove that wrong in 6 days.

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And the Skins defense still came up with a lot of crucial stops. The Lynch fumble and sacking Wilson to drop them out of FG range immediately come to mind. Make no mistake, the Redskins D played well enough to handily beat the Seahawks. If Kirk Cousins comes in after Griffin injured his knee in the first half, I bet the Seahawks would be out of the playoffs right now, and this whole ridiculous thread would never have been started.

BradyFTW! said:

I think it's more a matter of being competitive and winning games in the playoffs year in and year out than "did the team win some Super Bowls long before any of the players on it were even in the NFL?".

Teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Giants, etc. are more entitled to talk a bit of trash, IMO, not because of the SB's that each team won over a decade ago, but because they're all in the playoffs more often than not, and they win playoff games when they get there. The are a .500 team through three seasons with Pete Carroll as coach, and that's with the NFC West being the worst division in the NFL for the bulk of his tenure. Until they sustain this year's success for a couple of seasons, they'll be yet another new arrival that may or may not last. There are multiple teams like that every season, and they're all just as convinced that their team has a limitless ceiling as you are. The Chargers used to see themselves in pretty much the same way.

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That's fair, but for the record, I don't feel that they have a limitless ceiling. I've been a Seahawk fan long enough to be skeptical of any "dynasty" (or even close) taking place until it actually does. Early last decade, the Hawks were in the Playoffs many times (being division champs of a weak division), with one superbowl appearance. That's about the extent of their success.

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And the Skins defense still came up with a lot of crucial stops. The Lynch fumble and sacking Wilson to drop them out of FG range immediately come to mind. Make no mistake, the Redskins D played well enough to handily beat the Seahawks. If Kirk Cousins comes in after Griffin injured his knee in the first half, I bet the Seahawks would be out of the playoffs right now, and this whole ridiculous thread would never have been started.

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^This. Seahawks are a good team, but all this bed-wetting about them being the "team to beat" in the NFC is way over the top. Seattle's 24 unanswered points were in large part due to the fact that the Redskin's couldn't answer as long as a crippled RGIII was still in the game.

And please, stop saying that Seattle has beaten SF, NE and GB so they're totally on par with those teams. They did not beat GB. They lost, however they were gifted the game by . . . you know the rest.

Another thing that I don't understand is this idea that Sherman and co. are just going to shut down Roddy White and Julio Jones. As if somehow the Seattle defense just makes everybody cringe in fear. Excuse me? White and Jones are a WR duo that is as good as any in the league. Sherman and co. are going to have their hands full with those guys.

New England Seahawks said:

I see what you're saying, but I have to disagree on the "accomplished vs not-accomplished" part. I personally am not a big fan of trash talking either, but I don't think having more superbowl rings makes one trash talk better or more valid than another. Every season the slate is wiped clean and nobody on the field gives a crap about what you did the year before. If some guy on the 49ers defense acted like Richard Sherman, I don't think that makes it more right just because they have multiple championships. That guy probably wasn't even born yet when they won those championships.

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I see it differently. I want my team to have an attitude and swagger but I don't want guys who have accomplished nothing talking about how great they are. If Wilfork, Brady, Mankins want to talk some sh.t i am fine with that, even though i know they won't, however Chandler Jones, Dennard, and Hightower need to keep their pieholes shut until they have championships to back it up with.


How's that Eagles DYNASTY doing these days?

ExpatPack said:

^This. Seahawks are a good team, but all this bed-wetting about them being the "team to beat" in the NFC is way over the top. Seattle's 24 unanswered points were in large part due to the fact that the Redskin's couldn't answer as long as a crippled RGIII was still in the game.

And please, stop saying that Seattle has beaten SF, NE and GB so they're totally on par with those teams. They did not beat GB. They lost, however they were gifted the game by . . . you know the rest.

Another thing that I don't understand is this idea that Sherman and co. are just going to shut down Roddy White and Julio Jones. As if somehow the Seattle defense just makes everybody cringe in fear. Excuse me? White and Jones are a WR duo that is as good as any in the league. Sherman and co. are going to have their hands full with those guys.

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I expect whoever Sherman is covering to be slowed down one on one. The guy is a talented cornerback, no doubt. With Revis out, he's possibly the best in the league. On the other side, White or Jones will have constant safety help over the top. The Falcons can attack this by maintaining a consistent running game and centering the gameplan around the TE.

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I expect whoever Sherman is covering to be slowed down one on one. They guy is a talented cornerback, no doubt. With Revis out, he's possibly the best in the league. On the other side, White or Jones will have constant safety help over the top. The Falcons can attack this by maintaining a consistent running game and centering the gameplan around the TE.

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Patrick P. - AZ = best in the league.

Double TE said:

Patrick P. - AZ = best in the league.

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Yep. He's another good one. Would look very nice in a Pats jersey.

Patradomous said:

Marshawn Lynch without question is the best running back in the game today.
Their D is dominant.
I think the only team that can beat them is the Pats and Brady with his A game.

For you bettors out there all the favorites won this weekend.Take all the underdogs next weekend there will be at least two upsets.

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AP is better and losing Clemons is a major blow to that defense.

A rookie Qb has never started a SB. There is a reason for that.

In addition, Pete Carroll is worst remaining coach in the playoffs.