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And lets not forget the Wood.

We need the Woodhead.

Yep. What was that stat he is the only player with at-least 4 rushing TD and 3 receiving TD this season.

He has come in and really taken over that Kevin Faulk role.


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He would be well worth it (after signing Welker, of course). He's an instantaneous upgrade over anything else we have available in the defensive backfield. And, at his age, I don't see him costing as much as some people on here believe.

Just wondering what you think that would be?

I'm guessing he's going to be looking for 40 over 5.

Is that too much for him and will the team baulk at that demand?

It seems that getting a player like that for a 4th and getting a comp 3rd if he's let go maybe where the team is heading.
 
I don't think he's a free agent, but the big signing via trade or FA is QB Alex Smith of the 49ers. I believe he has a cap friendly buyout option this year held by the 49ers, but I don't fully comprehend the implications for the team that picks him up.

He's seasoned, has spent time in West Coast offense and would be looking for stability somewhere. The Patriots are the very definition of stability and need a back-up who can take the reins immediately should Brady call it a day or get injured. He'll be 29 at the start of the 2013 training camp.

The Pats have a slew of receivers and a running game that would take some of the pressure off of him being the only skill player in the locker room. There are awful teams that would love a player with his history, but the Patriots (or the Broncos) would be a better change of scenery for him.

He does not seem like a guy who would rock the boat - he's been an upstanding pro with the change in SF.
 
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I don't think he's a free agent, but the big signing via trade or FA is QB Alex Smith of the 49ers. I believe he has a cap friendly buyout option this year held by the 49ers, but I don't fully comprehend the implications for the team that picks him up.

He's seasoned, has spent time in West Coast offense and would be looking for stability somewhere. The Patriots are the very definition of stability and need a back-up who can take the reins immediately should Brady call it a day or get injured. He'll be 29 at the start of the 2013 training camp.

The Pats have a slew of receivers and a running game that would take some of the pressure off of him being the only skill player in the locker room. There are awful teams that would love a player with his history, but the Patriots (or the Broncos) would be a better change of scenery for him.

He does not seem like a guy who would rock the boat - he's been an upstanding pro with the change in SF.

He is already unhappy when he lost his starting job to CK. What makes you think he will even remotely entertain the idea of riding the bench on the Patriots team. Besides that money could be used on something far more pressing like on defense or a WR.
 
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Talib Talib Talib!

Pats defense folds like a tent without him.
 
In 2013 the Patriots will finally sign Adam Seward.
 
I see us Tagging Talib, then giving Welker a big contract we've all been waiting for. Unfortunately, Vollmer will get big bucks.... elsewhere. Well, at least we have an amazing OL coach who can develop guys. Woodhead and Edelman will be brought back cheap, while Arrington and Chung will walk. But I don't care WHAT Talib does, he's gotta come back.



Now, as for FA signings..... since Welker's resigned we won't need to go after Harvin. I say we go after a young guy in the draft instead.


Otherwise, my guess is as good as anyone else's for who New England will sign.
 
He would be well worth it (after signing Welker, of course). He's an instantaneous upgrade over anything else we have available in the defensive backfield. And, at his age, I don't see him costing as much as some people on here believe.
K, we are going to have to pay Talib 8-10/, Volmer 8-10/, Welker 8-10/ plus Woody, Thomas, Arrington, Coles and the rest....and now you want to pay ANOTHER 6-8MM for Reed? How soon before we become the Jets north

Here's the thing - The Jets have just 7 players who take up $80MM of cap space. Leaving $40MM for the other 46 players to divvy up. (IIRC those 7 are Sanchez, Revis, Cromartie, D'Brick, Mangold, Harris, and Holmes)....and that's assuming the lJets unload the contracts of Scott, Pace, Keller, Pouha, Greene, etc, some of whom will have dead money consequences, and all of whom will have to be replaced with vet minimum players. That's 13% of your roster taking 67% of your cap space, and all the extension and restructure flexibility has already been used)

Conversely the Pats would have 17 players before they get to that $80MM figure, and that figure would grow to over 20 after the Brady extension.

But you can see the problem the Pats are facing, and why it is likely that people will inevitably get mad when all the FA's aren't signed. Its almost impossible to sign them all.

As it is look at the reality. The Pats do as good a job as anyone in the league at spreading the wealth. But even THEY end up giving 67% of the wealth to only 32% of the roster. A lot better than the Jets, but that's still top heavy. And its only going to get worse going forward.

I guess you can make the "cap look like crap" for a couple of years, but eventually all the manipulation comes back to bite you in the ass. The Jets have been feeling the effects of their "all in" play for the last 2 years already, being very limited in their FA moves. Its only going to be worse this year, where it's unlikely they will be able to resign their top FA (Landry) to even a $5-6MM/deal Let alone facing the prospect of having to do THREE $8-10MM deals like the Pats are looking at. At least there is a possibility for us to manage this task. But only because we haven't signed "everyone" in the past.

Like the pebble in the pond, every signing has a ripple effect for good or bad. Teams are facing a finite budget every year, and no signing occurs in a vacuum.....though a lot of fans think they do....or at least they post like they do.
 
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And, at his age, I don't see him costing as much as some people on here believe.
What scares me is what number is floating around in Ed's head, not our heads, not Bill's.

Another thing that scares me is his increasing fragility. What good is the smartest center fielder in the business if he's sitting on a sofa? Can you imagine them letting Wes (Mr. Durability) go in order to sign a guy that might get hurt in pre-season?

I love the pure football idea of Ed Reed but I think that it's a huge roll of the dice. Perhaps it's worth the roll. I always agree with Bill's decisions but I also realize that he has struck out badly on people like Ocho and that he tends to day-dream greatness that really isn't there at times.

If they sign Reed I'll be willing to see the possible glory, but I will have to admit to holding my breath at the same time.
 
I agree the biggest FA signing this year should be WES!!!!!

As to the Reed signing I think a lot would come down to the Ravens plans moving forward with him and with Ray as I just dont see him leaving there unless he is forced to. Then comes the money I think he still would comand a decent amount of money but it would seem to be a very wise investment for this team and depending on exactly what Reed wants I think this could be fairly easy to agree on. When I say what Reed wants I mean does he want to break the bank again or does he want a ring because he was not on the 2000 Ravens team and has none. I think if the Ravens were to move on based on our need for Secondary help and based on him wanting a Ring I think it could be pretty easy and natural for both to come up with a deal that makes sense for both parties and BB has been courting him and kissing up to him for years. I find it hard not to get excited about this possibility.

Then you re-sign Talib and boom your secondary actually looks good.
 
I like us to pick up Keller from the Jets at a reasonable number - assuming he's gone from there. Given how we never seem to carry 3 healthy TEs I don't think that Gronk, Hern, Ballard and Keller would be overkill. Keep Hut-Oh around too.
 
I see us Tagging Talib, then giving Welker a big contract we've all been waiting for.

I think we will come to a deal with Wes this year but I think it might require the help of the Tag. As I am not sure FEB will be enough time to bridge the gap of all of last years negotiating. I think the Pats will tag Wes and then feel the pinch of the 11-12 mil hit it brings and that will spped up the long term deal as the Pats will save short term, lock up their guy, and Wes will get his.

Also I dont see the need to tag Talib. First off the tag for CBs must be ridiculously high and second given everything that has gone on with Talib I think he will be more than willing to negotiate long term with us rather than preferring to test the market. Thats no guarentee both he and the team come to an agreement but that they will be given every chance too and if they cant it would mean the Pats didnt agree on his value and I dont see them then tagging him for a huge one year deal.
 
Maybe, though it depends how much he wants. His play seems to have tailed off quite a bit this year, as has the Ravens' defense. Kenny Phillips would be a nice option at safety, and a better long term option, though there's no doubt Reed would be a nice short term pick up.

Agreed. Reed is one of my favorite players but I don't really think getting a player who is on the decline is really going to help us much.
 
I like us to pick up Keller from the Jets at a reasonable number - assuming he's gone from there. Given how we never seem to carry 3 healthy TEs I don't think that Gronk, Hern, Ballard and Keller would be overkill. Keep Hut-Oh around too.

I dont see that as a terrible idea but I would think Keller wants to start somewhere and at least doesnt see himself as 3 on the depth chart. Also I think if Ballard is healthy they have a very solid 3 and no need to spend any money if by april you dont feel Ballard is healthy enough then maybe draft a TE in the 2nd or 3rd and you have Hooman to bridge the gap.
 
For all the people who deride Hernandez as being soft...boy, they'd really be thrilled with Keller.

I like the Alan Branch and Harvin submissions. Don't like Alex Smith at all. But it really depends on how much $ we have to throw around.
 
This is a really interesting year in free agency, with a lot of starting defenders about to hit the market. The one that I've got my eye on is Kevin Williams. He's had tons of personal success but very little team success, and he's a guy who can give the Pats some push up the middle. The price would have to be right, of course, but he's accomplished just about everything he can individually, so I could see him taking a team-friendly deal for a chance at a ring. The chance to play next to Wilfork can't hurt either.

If the Pats don't resign Talib, then there are quite a few interesting alternatives. Sean Smith has finally blossomed into what that 6'4", 4.47 body should have made him. Belichick supposedly really liked DRC back when he was a draft prospect. Derek Cox has had an up and down career for the Jags. Keenan Lewis is a first year starter for the Steelers and has shown some good things.

I'm going to go with the Pats re-signing Welker (at a reasonable price), signing Williams, and either resigning Talib or signing another starting CB, but letting Vollmer walk.
 
Welker and Talib.

Alan Branch doesn't excite me. I saw him quit in college once he was projected as a first rounder. I'm not keen on him. He has the talent, so if it could work anywhere, it would be here.
 
He is already unhappy when he lost his starting job to CK. What makes you think he will even remotely entertain the idea of riding the bench on the Patriots team. Besides that money could be used on something far more pressing like on defense or a WR.

You make two points: 1) what makes me think he'd entertain the idea? Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels, Rob Gronkowski, Wes Welker, etc. etc. The guy could benefit from a year in an organization like this with the chance to get behind the wheel of a Maserati in the near future with a shot at a Super Bowl.

2) Money better spent elsewhere? This guy will not be expensive for his position in my opinion, but that wasn't the question, nor do I really have any idea what he'll command. If you're Smith, do you take megabucks to go get killed again in a place like KC or do you take short money to play in New England? He's already paid his dues. Frankly, I do not think there is any better money spent than for a quality back-up with Brady turning 36-years-old during training camp in 2013.
 
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