Is the point after attempt really needed?

Froob · Nov 22, 2012

patfanken said:
I'm not for doing away with the "extra point", but rather doing away with the kicking part of it. Make it into a REALLY interesting play. Here's a way to make every play into must see TV. After the TD the offensive team has 3 options. 1. Put the ball on the one yard line for 1 point. 2. Put the ball on the 3 yard line for 2 points. 3. Put the ball on the 7 yard line for 3 points.

NOW every extra point will be filled with drama. The strategy and 2nd guessing would be off the charts. NOW the defense would have a reasonable chance to stop the extra point, with this chances increasing with every option.

I would guess that PAT's from the 1 would be successful about 80% of the time, from the 3 about 50%, and from the 7 around 30%. One thing for certain though, no one would be going to the fridge during an extra point, and on Monday a good part of the post game discussion would include "extra point talk"

I don't know if I'd like that personally, wouldn't be too many OT games. Gotta disgaree with Belichick and some of you guys here. Personally I think the game is just fine the way it is aside from minor penalty changes. Don't fix what ain't broken. Anybody remember from back in maybe 06(?) the bengals scored a touchdown down 7 vs the broncos on a late touchdown in a pivotal game for playoff implications and Chad turns around for a sec walks over to TJ Housyomamma and everyone is sitting there in shock and ask " T what happened?" "They missed the kick...." Bengals lose and miss the playoffs.

Raymond · Nov 22, 2012

ctpatsfan77 said:
FWIW, though, remember that the original point of the kick was to *allow* the points for the TD at all: 100 years ago, if you missed the "XP," you got zero for the TD.

That's amazing. If that were the rule today, teams would draft behemoth, wall like fat men who normally can't move out of their own way yet simply play x-points to be " The Wall".

NSPF · Nov 22, 2012

brady199 said:
If it was all chalked up to luck, then they wouldn't even practice the snap, hold and kick.

The success rate is high enough that any time there is a failure it can be considered unlucky instead of unskilled, and that still doesn't address the fact that it adds absolutely nothing to the game. If you took the teams with the best and worst PAT teams and switched them, I bet that it would have no effect on the outcome of the season for either of them.

PatsFan2 · Nov 22, 2012

Bobs My Uncle said:
The Gronk injury on the point after attempt got me thinking ...... has this play become unnecessary? The success rate on these kicks must be in the 98%-99% range.

Our friend the Ghost almost missed one remember??

Bigfatcat999 · Nov 22, 2012

I'm not a big fan of the point extra. It is point less (No pun intended). I would rather see Singles (Rouges) in the NFL. It gives the Punter added value and will force more kick returns from the end zone.

ralmat55 · Nov 22, 2012

Eliminating the extra point kick would save even more time because the automatic review which now happens on every TD can take place during the commercial break. With player safety being the concern it is, eliminating what amounts to little more than a formality is worth doing.

Bobs My Uncle · Nov 22, 2012

I'd make point after attempts real plays. Just like the current 2 pointers. Only you get 1 point if you pass or run it in instead of 2.

RodThePat · Nov 22, 2012

I think any play, in any sport, in which there isn't any kind of accomplishment in making, only shame in missing, should be done away with. I can't think of any other sport that has a point-scoring play with anywhere near the success rate the PAT has.

VJCPatriot · Nov 22, 2012

PAT is rarely missed but it happens. Human error from the kicker, bad snap, chance of a block, etc. There are no mulligans in pro sports. I'm not happy with Gronk getting injured but that doesn't mean they should change the rule.

Wolfpack · Nov 22, 2012

RodThePat said:
A game won by one point in which the difference was a missed extra point? Aside from that Saints game in which Carney missed the PAT after a Stallworth TD in the last second, I can't really recall that happening in the NFL. And even if it does, it's an extremely rare occurrence.

He's not advocating that we just do away with the PAT, and so if you go down the field and score a TD you lead 6-0. From what he said, I think he's talking about just making the touchdown worth 7 points. If that were the case, the vast majority of games would still have turned out exactly the same way.

I can think of 2 instances where a team scored a TD on the final play of regulation to make it a 1 point game and they missed the extra point. One involved New Orleans and the other involed Jacksonville.

Deus Irae · Nov 22, 2012

RodThePat said:
A game won by one point in which the difference was a missed extra point? Aside from that Saints game in which Carney missed the PAT after a Stallworth TD in the last second, I can't really recall that happening in the NFL. And even if it does, it's an extremely rare occurrence.

He's not advocating that we just do away with the PAT, and so if you go down the field and score a TD you lead 6-0. From what he said, I think he's talking about just making the touchdown worth 7 points. If that were the case, the vast majority of games would still have turned out exactly the same way.

Tony Romo will certainly never forget....

nabwong · Nov 26, 2012

Good time to bump this thread

Is the point after attempt really needed?

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