What did people think of Andrew Luck?

JackBauer said:

He'll be one of -- if not the -- best quarterbacks in the league soon.

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He's definitely legit. Time will only bring more experience and he's well on his way to bein a top QB for yrs to come.

What do I think of Luck?

I think the Giants in 2007 and in 2011 had plenty of it...the Pats not so much

CityOfChampions said:

Luck: 12 TDs 12 INTs 77.2 RAT
Sanchez: 11 TDs 9 INTs 73.4 RAT

Can we all agree that Luck has better offensive weapons than Sanchez or no? Sanchez has a better running back but I think Luck has better receivers.

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Exactly. Every QB can look great for a several series, for a few games, maybe even for a season, but the great QB's never make mistakes. Luck could become the next Manning or the next Drew Bledsoe. At this point, you just don't know.

The kid has skills. I was surprised to hear how quick he was in comparison to RG3 pre-draft, and it showed when he blew by Mayo while scrambling.

The Pats defense, even when underperforming is tough for experienced QBs to read. Luck had plenty of problems when the defense found its footing, but I believe, absent major injuries, he will become one of the best in the NFL down the road. I hate to credit Irsay and the Colts, but it looks like the organization made the right decision picking him up in lieu of staying with Manning for a few more years (acknowledging that Manning is a far better QB right now).

I thought he was very, very good.

Unfortunately.

Quite frankly, the Colts are all set for the next 12-15 years.

Irsay has come up with the most inane, incoherent, and flat out bizarre tweets imaginable, but he made a very shrewd move by cutting Manning and drafting Luck.

I'd say it's one of the best personnel decisions in NFL history.

PP2 said:

Quite frankly, the Colts are all set for the next 12-15 years.

Irsay has come up with the most inane, incoherent, and flat out bizarre tweets imaginable, but he made a very shrewd move by cutting Manning and drafting Luck.

I'd say it's one of the best personnel decisions in NFL history.

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Drafting Luck was a good move, without a doubt. But let's wait a couple of years before we say it was the greatest decision ever.

PP2 said:

Quite frankly, the Colts are all set for the next 12-15 years.

Irsay has come up with the most inane, incoherent, and flat out bizarre tweets imaginable, but he made a very shrewd move by cutting Manning and drafting Luck.

I'd say it's one of the best personnel decisions in NFL history.

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Yeah, lets wait and see with this.

Peyton Manning is top 3 for MVP right now......Colts are SB contenders if he is still QB'ing them.

I expect many more years of the same the Patriots did to Peyton Manning regarding Andrew Luck. People often forget these rookie QB's are coming into a league with stringent conditions placed upon defenses that weren't around when guys like Brady and Manning were making their debuts.

Luck hit the whole spectrum. He had some throws that were just fantastic, threading the needle under pressure. There were other time where he was aiming one place and the ball ended up somewhere else. The talent is there. The consistency is not.

Obviously has the talent, but i don't like rushing rookies in there for a reason. If he continues to be pressured is he going to continue to throw into coverage like he did yesterday? Obviously he felt he needed to take risks against Brady, but other teams will take note. Throw them to the wolves and pretty soon they'll throw when they should eat it, or not throw cause they hear footsteps, or screw up mechanics.

Nothing about his ability, just reality in the NFL. experience and control breeds confidence. It's no mistake the Pats had Brady on a tight leash his whole first Super Bowl year.

ausbacker said:

I expect many more years of the same the Patriots did to Peyton Manning regarding Andrew Luck. People often forget these rookie QB's are coming into a league with stringent conditions placed upon defenses that weren't around when guys like Brady and Manning were making their debuts.

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I hope so. But Luck won't always be a rookie. He's still having a fantastic debut, they are in the playoff hunt, that's almost unheard of. He's earned the hype, he's the real deal. We'll see what happens in a few years.

Peyton threw 28 INTs his rookie year and completed 56.7% of his passes. No one was worried. We all knew the talent was there.

Luck is the best rookie I've ever seen---he seems like the guy that studies game film nonstop

The great qbs take the time to go through the details, and my gut tells me he's gonna be an intense scholar of the game like Brady, Manning, Montana, or Young. Going through countless hours of film, perfecting mechanics, etc....he seems like that kind of guy. The question is will he be like Manning or Steve Young and "think" too much under pressure or be the natural cold blooded killer like Brady or Montana have been their whole careers and have "it" in his veins. Just watching a few snaps, I love seeing both his confidence in the pocket and play calling and how he directs the offense. His arm strength is awesome---in addition he has the fire, pocket presence, cerebral look of Brady. He has the scrambling ability of Rodgers. He's already made his teammates better. Dont be surprised if they meet us in Foxboro again this yr.

JackBauer said:

He'll be one of -- if not the -- best quarterbacks in the league soon.

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This. He will learn from the mistakes he's making and barring injury will be an elite QB in 2 years IMO.

bostonia3333 said:

Luck is the best rookie I've ever seen---he seems like the guy that studies game film nonstop

The great qbs take the time to go through the details, and my gut tells me he's gonna be an intense scholar of the game like Brady, Manning, Montana, or Young. Going through countless hours of film, perfecting mechanics, etc....he seems like that kind of guy. The question is will he be like Manning or Steve Young and "think" too much under pressure or be the natural cold blooded killer like Brady or Montana have been their whole careers and have "it" in his veins. Just watching a few snaps, I love seeing both his confidence in the pocket and play calling and how he directs the offense. His arm strength is awesome---in addition he has the fire, pocket presence, cerebral look of Brady. He has the scrambling ability of Rodgers. He's already made his teammates better. Dont be surprised if they meet us in Foxboro again this yr.

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Did Luck lose the game film that he had on the Pats defense? He didn't look very special.

seemed very good with a lot of intangibles. as many said - consistency is biggest thing. but poise, arm, confidence he has.

ON COMPARISONS TO OTHER ROOKIES:
nfl is such a team game; it is a bit hard on not even one year's data to make any valid comparisons to rgiii or wilson and say who is better.

on the face of it due to indy's cap woes and record last year; you would think he has the least to work with compared to the other two. So even if he had lower #s; he is doing more with less.

but NOT SO FAST.............just remember 'suck for luck'. that was NOT a 1-15 team last year. Not a .500 either; but they definitely threw games to get Luck. Then they got the benefit of draft position through 7 rounds. To their credit; it looks like they didn't miss on some of their WR picks ; (although those rooks dropped some catchables as well).

So all-in-all IMO he is definitely a potential consistent top tier QB (top 10 of the 40 or so who end up starting across a season). And I would say the same for RGIII/Wilson (as opposed to a tannehill say).

But key word is POTENTIAL. Indy could still ruin him too (psych)/ injure him up (from lack of protection-overreliance on pass) over these first 2-3 years before he is officially 'of age'/'matured'. But for now it looks like they struck long-term paydirt.

If I had to have a franchise that stays consistent-competitive w/ Pats I pretty much dont mind it being the Dolts. I mean at least they used to be AFCE and the most annoying thing to me about Dolts was the Pay-me-a-ton WHINE-A-THON. So that is gone. And the Polian-(I am going to change the rules because I can't win any other way)-beast was the other most hateful thing. So that is gone too. What is left is just the rivalry-memory. So all good.

1960Pats said:

Did Luck lose the game film that he had on the Pats defense? He didn't look very special.

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No. He likely saw film about a defense that rushed their four down linemen on the vast majority of plays, stayed away from press-man, and played a lot of zone. What the Patriots brought to him were exotic blitz packages, corners playing straight press man coverage, and not a lot of zone.

KontradictioN said:

No. He likely saw film about a defense that rushed their four down linemen on the vast majority of plays, stayed away from press-man, and played a lot of zone. What the Patriots brought to him were exotic blitz packages, corners playing straight press man coverage, and not a lot of zone.

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That is a major point.

I wonder though did BB decide to make that change and take the risk this game because he was facing a rookie, however talented, relying on possible cognitive dissonance from studying film that was nothing like he was facing that day on the field at full NFL speed under duress? Will we revert to SOP against the Jests?

Kid's pretty chubby. He's also got as many INTs as TDs hahaha. RG3 is & will be better.