Week 6 at Seattle Seahawks.... piece of cake, right?

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@Hawkscanner: pretty sure Carpenter gets the start at LG and McQuistan at RG. Moffitts injured again and Sweezy hasn't seen the field since Dallas IIRC.http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltp63bvlrF1qia0kxo1_500.jpg

@italia44: Nobody thinks the pats will get steamrolled against the Hawks. Your entire post, sarcasm included, is whats called a straw man argument, which is kinda just immature and not conducive to friendly and intelligent discussion.so, using the first part of your post as a bit of objective opinion leads you to post THIS piece of overt trollism ? What happens if I don't agree with your 'idea' of "friendly and intelligent" discussion? This little snippet you posted is neither...hypocrite much???

Even PC gives the pats major kudos:
Seahawks: Pete Carroll Conference Call Transcript...when in Pete Carroll's hsitory as a HC in the NFL has he NOT given the next opponent "major kudos"? If this wasn't meant to be a comedic statement, then I have to assume you have nothing of any significance to add to this board ,other than a Seahawk lineup update

Only thing I can say is that no team can expect to walk into centurylink and win convincingly any more.where have we heard THIS exact same statement before...somebody help ol' Joe Kerr out...really sounds familiar...

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Even PC gives the pats major kudos...yeah, Pats fans have no idea what THAT is like, given OUR HC....meanwhile, the sun is yellow, the earth is spherical and I get hungry at 6 pm every night....

Brady_to_Moss said:

I completely forgot sydney rice went to seattle haha

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For how often he's been injured one might to refer to him as, Cindy Rice.

3Hawk said:

@Hawkscanner: pretty sure Carpenter gets the start at LG and McQuistan at RG. Moffitts injured again and Sweezy hasn't seen the field since Dallas IIRC.

@italia44: Nobody thinks the pats will get steamrolled against the Hawks. Your entire post, sarcasm included, is whats called a straw man argument, which is kinda just immature and not conducive to friendly and intelligent discussion.

Even PC gives the pats major kudos:
Seahawks: Pete Carroll Conference Call Transcript

Only thing I can say is that no team can expect to walk into centurylink and win convincingly any more.

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It was sarcastic and immature.....as intended.It was not for seahawk fans,in general,who have been for the most part....ummmm......informative.

That particular post was a puffed-up piece of inane drivel.How big,how fast,how elusive,how tall,arm strength,etc is NOT informative football talk.It's the rantings of a pre-teen fanboy and I treated it as such.

Tell me about Pete Carrol's scheme....How will they handle the best offense(so far) in football.Are they using a one-back set,what has 6 ints. done to Wilson's confidence level.Will he be able to handle the multiple looks,that the pats defense presents.....Will they try to play "small ball",with 2 backs and 2 tight ends.

Don't you think this would have been better than"Hulk and Terminator"?.....He was talking down to us and I roiled him on it.....Thanks for playing

rookboston said:

there are no cupcakes in the nfl this year.

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j-e-t-s!

italia44 said:

It was sarcastic and immature.....as intended.It was not for seahawk fans,in general,who have been for the most part....ummmm......informative.

That particular post was a puffed-up piece of inane drivel.How big,how fast,how elusive,how tall,arm strength,etc is NOT informative football talk.It's the rantings of a pre-teen fanboy and I treated it as such.

Tell me about Pete Carrol's scheme....How will they handle the best offense(so far) in football.Are they using a one-back set,what has 6 ints. done to Wilson's confidence level.Will he be able to handle the multiple looks,that the pats defense presents.....Will they try to play "small ball",with 2 backs and 2 tight ends.

Don't you think this would have been better than"Hulk and Terminator"?.....He was talking down to us and I roiled him on it.....Thanks for playing

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WOW! It's not even time for Trick or Treak yet and I'm already being accused of pedantic scare tactics. Well Mr. Howell, you've certainly put this unsophisticated Yale Man in his place -- that's for sure.

You know, I would have hoped that most would have realized that my use of "Terminator" in describing Lynch wasn't hyperbole or some cheap Bela Lugosi scare tactic -- merely a description of his character -- his tenacity as a runner.

Secondly in regards to Turbin, the nicknames "TURBINator" and "Hulk" were given to him by his Aggies (and now Seahawks) teammates -- not the fans. If you've seen pictures of him, you'd know why. Sorry for sharing.

Now, if you'll allow this Billy Goat Gruff to continue across the bridge ... and are still interested in the ramblings of his Pre-Teen, I can take a stab at how I believe Carroll will attempt to attack the Patriots offense.

Danny Kelly over at Fieldgulls did an excellent write-up of the Seahawks defensive scheme (or I should say schemes) with some pretty quality still pictures of some of the sets. Here is the link to that piece ...

On the Seahawks' Defensive Scheme Versatility/Diversity

If you read through that piece, you'll realize that it's pretty tough to really answer that definitively, as Carroll and Defensive Coordinator Gus Bradley will give you a lot of different looks depending on your sets. Both of these guys come from the Monte Kiffin tree -- if that gives you any idea of where they're coming from, but Pete certainly has built in his own unique ideas as well. Now, the Seahawks base 4-3 Defense is Red Bryant (usually lined up around the 5 technique, but they'll slide him around as well) ... Brandon Mebane (often lined up in the 1 or 3 technique) ... Alan Branch (again, a 1 or 3 technique guy) ... and Chris Clemons (out wide on the 9 technique but will also slide in just off the Tackle's outside shoulder as well). Again depending on the situation, they'll substitute out Branch (often if they suspect it's more of a passing situation) and put in either Irvin as a 2nd LEO or Jason Jones to get more pressure up the middle. Recently, Brandon Mebane has been playing out of his mind, as he's been able to almost single-handedly collapse the middle of the line. Former Seahawks LB Dave Wyman compared his play of late to Cortez Kennedy -- a major compliment, as Kennedy was just elected to the HOF and Wyman was a teammate of Kennedy's. Given that the Patriots will undoubtedly go no huddle on them (I'm surmising) a majority of the time ... I'm guessing that their main set up front will be Red Bryant and Brandon Mebane with Clemons and Irvin out there (a fast unit) as they attempt to try to really get after Brady quickly. I would expect some nickel packages (so Trufant will come in for that) and you'll see a TON of bump and run. They aren't going to allow the Pats receivers an inch off the LOS. As I said before, expect a mugging within the first 5 yards as they attempt to disrupt the timing of that offense.

Are they using a 1-back set?

Yes, often times they will go with Lynch as the single back ... but in seemingly obvious running downs you'll see Robinson in there as the blocking fullback. But here again, they will pass out of that formation as well.

what has 6 ints. done to Wilson's confidence level.Will he be able to handle the multiple looks,that the pats defense presents

I highly doubt that he's been rattled. This is one of the most mature rookies I've ever seen come in to the league. If you'd like a real sense of just who Russell Wilson is -- check out Jon Gruden's "Camp Gruden" special with Russell Wilson (which was done prior to the draft). You'll learn all you need to know about this kid's makeup. From what I've seen thus far, what you see is what we've gotten ...

Camp Gruden -- Russell Wilson

Will they try to play "small ball",with 2 backs and 2 tight ends.

Yep. Knowing Pete Carroll, I'd expect we'll see quite a bit of small ball, with them utilizing both Zach Miller and Anthony McCoy. Truth be told, I've also seen them use 3 tight ends at times (Miller, McCoy, and Moore) -- which adds a whole new wrinkle to things. As I said above, you'll see some 2 back sets ... but I'd be willing to bet they'll tend to go more single set back in this game. All that said in terms of the "small ball" ... I'd suspect they're going to allow Wilson to take a couple of shots downfield in this game, as they just did that in Carolina.

Alrighty-then -- let's ditch the clubs and continue our ascent out of the Paleolithic Age as we look forward to this game ...

you still have 8500 years to go before you get to trade in your granite TV set...because that is what you've been watching, if the post above is any indication.

Does anyone want to waste the time to explain to Tumak that defensive sub packages won't be of any use when the Pats are in hyper-hurryup?

BTW, you keep explaining Pete Carroll and what he does and what tree he's from and on and on....do you realize this is a Patriots board??? You know, New England Patriots?...former employer of "just gotta clean things up...clean things up.." Pete "the Cleaner" Carroll???...or is this part of your prepackaged Seahawk propaganda kit you take from board to board as the Seahawks progress through the season?

here's a tip as you ascend the ages BTW...stay the hell out of Spain in the late 14th century and especially stay away from Torquemada the Grand Inquisitor...I hear you can't Torquemada anything...

Hawkscanner said:

WOW! It's not even time for Trick or Treak yet and I'm already being accused of pedantic scare tactics. Well Mr. Howell, you've certainly put this unsophisticated Yale Man in his place -- that's for sure.

You know, I would have hoped that most would have realized that my use of "Terminator" in describing Lynch wasn't hyperbole or some cheap Bela Lugosi scare tactic -- merely a description of his character -- his tenacity as a runner.

Secondly in regards to Turbin, the nicknames "TURBINator" and "Hulk" were given to him by his Aggies (and now Seahawks) teammates -- not the fans. If you've seen pictures of him, you'd know why. Sorry for sharing.

Now, if you'll allow this Billy Goat Gruff to continue across the bridge ... and are still interested in the ramblings of his Pre-Teen, I can take a stab at how I believe Carroll will attempt to attack the Patriots offense.

Danny Kelly over at Fieldgulls did an excellent write-up of the Seahawks defensive scheme (or I should say schemes) with some pretty quality still pictures of some of the sets. Here is the link to that piece ...

On the Seahawks' Defensive Scheme Versatility/Diversity

If you read through that piece, you'll realize that it's pretty tough to really answer that definitively, as Carroll and Defensive Coordinator Gus Bradley will give you a lot of different looks depending on your sets. Both of these guys come from the Monte Kiffin tree -- if that gives you any idea of where they're coming from, but Pete certainly has built in his own unique ideas as well. Now, the Seahawks base 4-3 Defense is Red Bryant (usually lined up around the 5 technique, but they'll slide him around as well) ... Brandon Mebane (often lined up in the 1 or 3 technique) ... Alan Branch (again, a 1 or 3 technique guy) ... and Chris Clemons (out wide on the 9 technique but will also slide in just off the Tackle's outside shoulder as well). Again depending on the situation, they'll substitute out Branch (often if they suspect it's more of a passing situation) and put in either Irvin as a 2nd LEO or Jason Jones to get more pressure up the middle. Recently, Brandon Mebane has been playing out of his mind, as he's been able to almost single-handedly collapse the middle of the line. Former Seahawks LB Dave Wyman compared his play of late to Cortez Kennedy -- a major compliment, as Kennedy was just elected to the HOF and Wyman was a teammate of Kennedy's. Given that the Patriots will undoubtedly go no huddle on them (I'm surmising) a majority of the time ... I'm guessing that their main set up front will be Red Bryant and Brandon Mebane with Clemons and Irvin out there (a fast unit) as they attempt to try to really get after Brady quickly. I would expect some nickel packages (so Trufant will come in for that) and you'll see a TON of bump and run. They aren't going to allow the Pats receivers an inch off the LOS. As I said before, expect a mugging within the first 5 yards as they attempt to disrupt the timing of that offense.

Are they using a 1-back set?

Yes, often times they will go with Lynch as the single back ... but in seemingly obvious running downs you'll see Robinson in there as the blocking fullback. But here again, they will pass out of that formation as well.

what has 6 ints. done to Wilson's confidence level.Will he be able to handle the multiple looks,that the pats defense presents

I highly doubt that he's been rattled. This is one of the most mature rookies I've ever seen come in to the league. If you'd like a real sense of just who Russell Wilson is -- check out Jon Gruden's "Camp Gruden" special with Russell Wilson (which was done prior to the draft). You'll learn all you need to know about this kid's makeup. From what I've seen thus far, what you see is what we've gotten ...

Camp Gruden -- Russell Wilson

Will they try to play "small ball",with 2 backs and 2 tight ends.

Yep. Knowing Pete Carroll, I'd expect we'll see quite a bit of small ball, with them utilizing both Zach Miller and Anthony McCoy. Truth be told, I've also seen them use 3 tight ends at times (Miller, McCoy, and Moore) -- which adds a whole new wrinkle to things. As I said above, you'll see some 2 back sets ... but I'd be willing to bet they'll tend to go more single set back in this game. All that said in terms of the "small ball" ... I'd suspect they're going to allow Wilson to take a couple of shots downfield in this game, as they just did that in Carolina.

Alrighty-then -- let's ditch the clubs and continue our ascent out of the Paleolithic Age as we look forward to this game ...

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Agreed:eat3:.....nicely done,btw......However,I need my club to get my 62 yr old bones out of my rocking chair......Peteropcorn:

The Monte Kiffin tree.

Is Lane Kiffin a part of that tree?

Look, I decided to put together the posts I did because your moderator had said that (frankly) a lot of folks around here didn't know a whole lot about the Seahawks ... so I thought I'd oblige.

Sorry if the material I threw your way was more of a manual for dummies than a map of the human genome. I spend the vast majority of my weeks explaining things to Pre-Teens and Teens (so inevitably I end up using their language). I guess I forgot for a sec that I was dealing with more Harvard Professor types who are used to more tea and crumpets. So, you wanna get technical ... we can get technical. But as I said above, Kelly's piece over at FieldGulls really shows pretty definitively that it's very hard to say HOW Carroll and company are going to attack the Patriot Offense. At times they'll show variations of the 4-3 ... but then just like that you'll be looking at more of a 3-4 look. Carroll and Bradley seem to almost devise brand new and different looking schemes every week, tailored to the opponent. Often times I'm sitting back and saying to myself -- WOW! I haven't seen that before. Read through that Field Gulls piece above if you haven't yet and check out the pictures that go along with it -- well worth your time.

BTW, you keep explaining Pete Carroll and what he does and what tree he's from and on and on....do you realize this is a Patriots board??? You know, New England Patriots?...former employer of "just gotta clean things up...clean things up.." Pete "the Cleaner" Carroll???...or is this part of your prepackaged Seahawk propaganda kit you take from board to board as the Seahawks progress through the season?

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I hadn't realized that I kept explaining anything -- I realize that you guys know Pete from his time with the Patriots ... but at the same time, Carroll himself has said that he's a totally different coach than he was in those days. That said, many Seahawk fans are skeptical on whether or not we can "Win Forever" though.

Yeah sure whatever -- just call me Tokyo Rose. BTW, that kit can be purchased for 3 easy installments of $9.95. Operators are standing by.

Deus Irae wrote:

Zach Miller is a quality TE, and that means trouble for the Patriots. This could be a real test for Wilson, who I think will get the starting nod again in this game. Wilson has yet to demonstrate that he's an effective one-on-one cover safety, and the other safety (Chung) couldn't cover a dead mouse in a shoebox, so I expect the Seahawks to work the TE matchups, and to feel capable of throwing to any part of the field.

WR I see as more competitive. Rice doesn't look to me as if he's fully recovered from the hip issues. Seattle's WR group isn't good. NE's DB group isn't good. We could see a lot of suck on both sides in this game.

As for QB, I think BB will do what he usually seems to do with rookie/bad QBs, and put the onus on Wilson. He'll scheme to take Lynch out of the game and force Wilson to make throws. It's the sort of style that lets the QB dregs amass great numbers, but usually lends itself to getting a critical turnover or two to decide the game.

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I agree with you -- it's logical to assume that Matt Patricia will load up the box to stop Lynch, pressure Wilson, and force the rookie QB to beat him. But as you point out, that might just play in to the Seahawks hands if your coverage is as bad as you say it is. Given that, I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if we see them come right out of the gate throwing the ball. As you know, Pete is something of a Riverboat Gambler. After all, this is a guy who to start the 2nd Half of the Rams Game went with an onside kick. The unexpected is exactly what we should expect from that guy. A 20 yard in route to Miller down the middle of the field on the first play of the game wouldn't shock me in the least. A little Shock and Awe strategy perhaps to get the defense to back off a bit. Establishing the pass is what Pete SHOULD do IMO ... but he's preached so much, "We can't turn the ball over" lately that I just don't know.

3Hawk wrote ...

@Hawkscanner: pretty sure Carpenter gets the start at LG and McQuistan at RG. Moffitts injured again and Sweezy hasn't seen the field since Dallas IIRC.

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You're absolutely right -- wasn't sure I saw that correctly earlier yesterday, but then saw that posted by the afternoon. So, Moffit's down again and yes, I would expect Carpenter to get the nod. Long-term, that actually might work out well, as Cable likes Carpenter's mean streak and he looks to be more suited at guard. That said in terms of THIS game ... that's not good and I would expect that the Pats will even MORE look to load up the box, bring the heat, and pressure the young QB to beat them.

Hawkscanner said:

I agree with you -- it's logical to assume that Matt Patricia will load up the box to stop Lynch, pressure Wilson, and force the rookie QB to beat him. But as you point out, that might just play in to the Seahawks hands if your coverage is as bad as you say it is. Given that, I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if we see them come right out of the gate throwing the ball. As you know, Pete is something of a Riverboat Gambler. After all, this is a guy who to start the 2nd Half of the Rams Game went with an onside kick. The unexpected is exactly what we should expect from that guy. A 20 yard in route to Miller down the middle of the field on the first play of the game wouldn't shock me in the least. A little Shock and Awe strategy perhaps to get the defense to back off a bit. Establishing the pass is what Pete SHOULD do IMO ... but he's preached so much, "We can't turn the ball over" lately that I just don't know.

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• Last year, the Patriots were the worst in the NFL at giving up plays of 20 yards or more. So far this year, the Patriots are the worst in the NFL at giving up plays of 20 yards or more, having already allowed 27 of them in 5 games.
  
• They're allowing opposition passers a QB rating of 96.3, which is the 11th worst in the NFL.
  
• They allow an average of 7.7 yards per pass, which is good for 10th worst in the NFL.
  
• They allow a completion percentage of 65.1, which is 8th worst in the NFL.
  
• They are tied for second worst, with 12 TDs allowed.
  
• They are tied for 19th in sacks

In short, the pass defense still sucks, although there seems to be some improvement when you use the eye test, and the front seven seems a lot stronger overall. If I were a Seahawks fan, I'd be pinning my hopes on a breakout passing game by young Mr. Wilson. Until the Patriots prove that they can slow down an opponent's passing attack, there's really no reason for teams to do anything else.

Hawkscanner said:

I don’t care if you’re a Seahawks fan or not, that Beast Quake run was nothing short of epic – one of the best runs in the history of the game. If you’ve never had a chance to see it, here is a Youtube clip of it – just watch it as a football fan.

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I watched it live. Great run, but you have to admit that there was also some poor attempts at tackling on that play as well.

Lynch will actually SEEK OUT contact … as getting hit and dealing out punishment actually fires this guy up.

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He's in luck, as Wilfork:

NFL Greatest Hit Vince Wilfork Hits Donald Jones - YouTube

Love:

Kyle Love lays out Ryan Lilja MNF 11/21/2011 - YouTube

and Spikes:

Brandon Spikes Destroys Jake Ballard - YouTube

will be happy to accomodate!

Stopping him will be the key to the game IMO because Carroll WANTS very much to implement ball control, dominate the clock, keep away offense.

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Keeping the ball out of Tom Brady's hands is definitely the key to winning.

Leon Washington is another guy you might see a bit in the backfield as a change of pace option … though his real value to this team and where he makes his impact is on Special Teams. I’m sure many of you will remember him from his days with the Jets.

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We're all-too-familiar with Leon.

Leon Washington Kick Return for TD - YouTube

Okung has appeared slow at times this year and has been guilty of 4 false starts and 2 holding penalties already. He’s got to get it together or he’s going to eventually find himself on the train out of town.

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He'll need to be quick on his feet going up against Chandler.

C -- Max Unger is a guy whom I’ve heard absolutely NONE of the local or national media focus on or talk about. And for an offensive lineman, that’s perhaps one of the biggest compliments you can give. He’s a solid vet who (from what I can see at least) doesn’t make a whole ton of mistakes.

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He'll have his hands full with Big Vince.

RT – Breno Giacomini is another guy who one could say has been very Bipolar in terms of his play. In many ways, Breno is the very epitome of the kind of guy you want at that position. At 6’7” 318 pounds, Breno is absolutely huge – a monster, actually in terms of the way he plays. He’s very much a street brawler and guys on the team if asked, “Who would you want with you in a dark alley” would answer “Breno.” But as a real tough guy, Breno has at times been undisciplined, as that mean streak has at times led to penalties. He’s been guilty of his share of holding penalties, false starts, and just dumb play – so much so that Carroll actually pulled him out and had him sit on the pine some during last week’s game. That seemed to refocus him a bit. We’ll see which Breno shows up to play on Sunday. If he does go out, look for Frank Omiyale (former Bears OT and a guy who’s done a decent job when he’s been in there) to be inserted in to the lineup here.

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He outweighs Ninko by about 70 lbs, so there probably won't be much pressure from that side unless Ninko can stay low and get leverage.

Honestly I am really worried about Wilforks knees. We run alot of nastie cut blocks in our zone blocking. Wilfork is a big big man and he will be getting himself off the ground all day.

SprfunkSeahawks said:

Honestly I am really worried about Wilforks knees. We run alot of nastie cut blocks in our zone blocking. Wilfork is a big big man and he will be getting himself off the ground all day.

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Hope you are wrong and neither team takes cheap shots at the oppositions knees. Pats are an old school team and the old school way of dealing with those issues is to return in kind. I would like to see both teams leave the game healthy.

moejr said:

First off lets forget that the replacement refs can't tell an interception from a TD. Your guy literally pushed a guy to the ground that even the NFL admitted should have been called for PI and would have ended the game with GB winning.

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I'll weigh on in the whole officiating in that Green Bay game since it seems like everyone else in America seemingly has ... as this was the game that ended the lockout and got the real refs back on the field.

I won't dispute that Tate should have been called for PI -- absolutely right ... and the league completely admitted that flat out. That was far from the only call that was horrible, by the way -- it's just that this is the only one people really focused on (obviously because it was the last play of the game). I'd have to go back and watch the tape again, but I would say that there were probably (conservatively) at least 10-15 bad calls made in that game BOTH for and against each team. A great example just off the top of my head -- Kam Chancellor was called for Pass Interference on a perfectly timed hit just as the ball got there. Even the national announcer agreed that
it wasn't PI -- just that these officials probably weren't used to guys this big and this fast being able to make a play like that ... therefore, it MUST have been PI.

All of that said, the bottom line is this is the NFL. Bad calls happen each and every game. Seahawks fans, Pats fans, Broncos fans, whomever -- we all know it. We don't like calls that are clearly shown to be the wrong call on the jumbotron ... but they happen. Like it or not, they are a part of the game. And my answer to those Packer fans who are still upset about this -- SCORE MORE POINTS. Score more points. Teams shouldn't put themselves in a situation where a ref can decide the game for or against you. The bottom line is that this Seahawks defense held (what was the best offense in the NFL last season) to a mere 12 points. That's it. The Packers put themselves in that position by not making tons of other plays throughout the game.

Now that sounds harsh, but we Seahawks fans had a very bitter pill that we had to swallow back in 2005. Many Seahawks fans will say that the Seahawks had that game stolen from them because of the refs. In fact, Mike Holmgren himself even added fuel to the fire at a Seahawks fan rally after that game when he said something to the effect of, "We went to Detroit to fight the Steelers. I didn't know we would be fighting the guys in the striped shirts as well." I remember that in the aftermath of that game, ESPN ran a poll in which they asked whether or not bad officiating cost the Seahawks the Super Bowl. Across the nation, something like 65% of respondants (outside of Pittsburgh and Seattle) answered "Yes". A couple of years ago one of those refs from that game actually showed up to Seahawks training camp ... and admitted that he personally made 2 bad calls in that game that were costly to the Seahawks. Now did that apology change anything? Not at all. It doesn't change the record book whatsoever.

Now like a lot of fans, I was bitter about that one for awhile -- that one really stung. After awhile though, I started coming around to my current way of thinking. The bottom line is that on that day, the Seahawks DIDN'T score enough points to win ... and didn't make the key stops when it counted. Bottom line is that they lost because they didn't make the plays ... and the Steelers did. Just play better and don't worry about the guys in the striped shirts. Again, bad calls are unfortunately a part of the game. Bad Calls will happen FOR your team ... and they will happen AGAINST your team. Deal with it ... control what you can (your own play on the field) ... and try your best to let go of what you can't. That's it, that's all.

5 paragraphs and I see you failed to admit to the fact that it was an interception.

The Packers made the play to win the game, replacements blew it. Bottom line

italia44 said:

It was sarcastic and immature.....as intended.It was not for seahawk fans,in general,who have been for the most part....ummmm......informative.

That particular post was a puffed-up piece of inane drivel.How big,how fast,how elusive,how tall,arm strength,etc is NOT informative football talk.It's the rantings of a pre-teen fanboy and I treated it as such.

Tell me about Pete Carrol's scheme....How will they handle the best offense(so far) in football.Are they using a one-back set,what has 6 ints. done to Wilson's confidence level.Will he be able to handle the multiple looks,that the pats defense presents.....Will they try to play "small ball",with 2 backs and 2 tight ends.

Don't you think this would have been better than"Hulk and Terminator"?.....He was talking down to us and I roiled him on it.....Thanks for playing

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Cool, no worries! I really like talking with other teams fans and it kinda sucks to lose track of a discussion because a little slight gets turned into a mud slinging contest.

Honestly, dealing with NEs offense will be tough. Carroll built this defense around players with unique skill sets - both him and JS (our GM) claim that they specifically scout for players who have some unique gift. The result has been a very effective defense, but one that has been reliant on substitutions so far. We might not have that luxury at times on Sunday and I think it will be tough to compensate for the lack. Perfect examples are Red Bryant and Bruce Irvin - both players who you want on the field. They both have situational weaknesses that can be targeted, though. Running a hurry up will limit our DC's ability to hide those weaknesses and highlight their strengths. Twelth man will have to be very, very loud to help our defense out - best way to stop the no huddle will be to throw Brady off rhythm and get a few incompletions to stop the clock. Much easier said than done.

Offensively, this one will be on Wilson. Your secondary seems to be a bit weaker than your front 7. Don't be fooled by the 6 picks - having watched the games, I can say without bias that 4 of them were entirely not his fault. He actually protects the ball very well - a lot of the turnovers and rustyness in general offensively I attribute to the fact that Carroll split snaps between Wilson and Flynn in the preseason. We all knew that the cost of a true QB competition would be chemistry, and we are seeing that now. We have to be able to get 3, 4 yard gains on the ground though, and I think we can do it with both Lynch and Turbin. Hopefully our OC Darrell Bevell gets his head out of his rear. Last couple of games we would run on first and second down, get about 4 ypc on those two downs. Then on third and two, he would go empty backfield, which seems idiotic to me. I don't think we've run a slant all year to be honest. We also don't seem to understand the whole play call to slow down blitzing idea. TBH, im extremely frustrated with our OC: I wish we would can him and promote Tom Cable to OC.

The trick to beating Wilson is really to not give up any easy throws. Carroll has handcuffed Wilson just like he handcuffed Hasselbeck and Jackson - he wants to limit turnovers so badly that our QB's seem afraid of making tight throws. Wilson will just pass over reads that are covered, even if it is possible to fit a pass in to them. We want to be able to hammer out 4 yards a play and then use that to run play action and boots to spring guys wide open for easy completions.

On the other hand, you probably won't confuse him with anything you have already done. He's a pretty devoted student of the game, so I'm sure BB will try to do different things from existing looks, etc.

Going to be a fun one this sunday. Hope the good guys come out on top!

SprfunkSeahawks said:

Honestly I am really worried about Wilforks knees. We run alot of nastie cut blocks in our zone blocking. Wilfork is a big big man and he will be getting himself off the ground all day.

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glad your team tries to take these cheap shots

JMC00 said:

5 paragraphs and I see you failed to admit to the fact that it was an interception.

The Packers made the play to win the game, replacements blew it. Bottom line

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bahahaha, probably because he doesn't think it was an interception? Neither do I, for that matter.

Why the Seahawks-Packers finish was not an interception, and why it would have been called the same by any referee crew. « Life In Rewind

If you have a moment, its a little lengthy, but a good argument. Undoubtedly OPI on the play, but PI happens on every hail mary and never gets called.

Probably not going to change any minds here - after the arizona and baltimore games I doubt i will win any sympathy for the replacement refs.

do all seahawks fans truly think that was an TD? lololol

Brady_to_Moss said:

do all seahawks fans truly think that was an TD? lololol

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I've heard some hawks fans who were being real sappy about it and saying the Packers got hosed and they would have rather lost, but most of us think that was a simultaneous catch.

Do most Pats fans think that CameraGate really didn't have an impact on their SB win over the Rams? lololol

Whee this is fun!