The "Lightning Speed" No Huddle

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Hopefully the defense can't hear the plays called. I would think a smart opposing defense and coaching staff would be able to diagnose the plays if they can hear Brady, by the time they've seen the same play multiple times, and synch up the words with the play. Then again, they are going so fast, it'd be hard for the defense to communicate and be on the same page on what they think they are about to run on the next play.

I find it odd that Kelly is being credited with any of this when fast no-huddle offenses have been the rage throughout college ball for more than a decade.

I guess I first saw it at Texas Tech with the old coach there (was his name Leach?) but Okie State did it, the WV coach Holgorsen did it when he was an assistant, I know Oklahoma has been doing it for at least 5 years.

Maybe it started as a B12 thing.

Also, the one word play calling is smart, and you hear Brady utter multiple ones. Only one of them is the key, and it's probably a sequence the players already know. When I played football, the playcalls were of the very long variety, but when I went over to Rugby in college, we used a system similar to the power of one for lineouts and scrums. Basically, in the line "Derby F**** Nottingham," none of the letters in each word appear in the other word, so when the scrum half or the hooker called a play by uttering one word, we would know by the first letter of the word. Audibles were always signaled by alcohol names or cigarettes. This is only trouble if a player is not familiar with alcohol or cigarettes.

Anyhow, having easy to remember codes like this is much simpler than a string of variables.

I think it's interesting that what brought Kelly here was his longstanding relationship with much maligned by the kneejerk contingent former NEP OC BOB. Who began running it here last season and is running it at Penn State with unanticipated success. Where he has dubbed it NASCAR.

I don't care what it is called, so long as it is can be called "successful".

Patriots need to save this type of stuff for playoff games, instead of showing their hand and becoming predictable.

It's a good way to run the offense, but its even better when the defense doesn't expect it.

This new wrinkle may be tough to execute on the road - I guess we will find out - b/c if it was good to run against the Broncos - it should be excellent to try against the Seahawks. It will be interesting to see if it works/can work in a hostile environment like Seattle. It will be excellent in the playoffs - at home - we will see about road games.

upstater1 said:

I guess I first saw it at Texas Tech with the old coach there (was his name Leach?) but Okie State did it, the WV coach Holgorsen did it when he was an assistant, I know Oklahoma has been doing it for at least 5 years.

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Mike Leach, yep.

And that scheme worked in part because of some short receiver they had who had this knack for getting open. . . . If only the Pats had that guy on their team. . . .

Oh, wait, they do.

Great Bedard article on the No-Huddle

Quick and to the point(s) - Patriots - Boston.com

Really good stuff from Bedard here.

How did the Patriots run the offense that fast? What was the key?

One word.

Not one word to describe it.

The Patriots operate their no-huddle attack most often using one word as the play call.

More accurately, they use six one-word play calls a game.

That word tells all 11 players on offense everything they need to know.

Formation.

Blocking scheme.

Direction on run plays.

Routes for receiver on passing plays.

Shifts in formations.

Snap count.

Possible alerts and play alterations.

One word.

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Definitely worth the read.

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Phenomenal read, crazy Bedard was able to get Brady and Belichick on record. I have watched almost every Oregon game over the past 3 years. And since last year I swore the Pats where running some version of that.

Pretty interesting to read also how Oregon is able to do it, with one word play calls..

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Read it this morning and agree that it's a great read.

What's interesting to note is that even though Chip's influence on our offense started a few year back, we haven't drafted any of his players particularly on offense. I imagine OL is the position where we could really benefit from a program like Oregon if this is the offense we're going to be running going forward.

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JDot said:

Phenomenal read, crazy Bedard was able to get Brady and Belichick on record. I have watched almost every Oregon game over the past 3 years. And since last year I swore the Pats where running some version of that.

Pretty interesting to read also how Oregon is able to do it, with one word play calls..

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Heard a few people mention Oregon Sunday and Monday before this came out. Great article.

I swear before one snap yesterday I heard Brady yell "Whiskey." Probably get a fine for that.

Must read Bedard article

I originally found this over at ESPN Boston in one of Mike Reiss's blurbs. There's a link there too.

In this article Bedard does a great job going back to describe the evolution of the Pats speed no huddle offense, starting with arrival and subsequent continuing visits of New Hampshire and UNH native Chip Kelly the Oregon HC and current guru of playing fast.

But even more fascinating was the item that Bill Walsh decades ago in his seminal book predicted what we are seeing now. And BB pays homage to his ultimate coaching hero, Paul Brown, by noting that Walsh learned at Brown's knee

Its a truly mesmerizing article and I'm surprised it hasn't been linked before this. I hope this link works

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patfanken said:

I originally found this over at ESPN Boston in one of Mike Reiss's blurbs. There's a link there too.

In this article Bedard does a great job going back to describe the evolution of the Pats speed no huddle offense, starting with arrival and subsequent continuing visits of New Hampshire and UNH native Chip Kelly the Oregon HC and current guru of playing fast.

But even more fascinating was the item that Bill Walsh decades ago in his seminal book predicted what we are seeing now. And BB pays homage to his ultimate coaching hero, Paul Brown, by noting that Walsh learned at Brown's knee

Its a truly mesmerizing article and I'm surprised it hasn't been linked before this. I hope this link works

chrome://newtabhttp//www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/10/08/patriots-huddle-relies-power-one/nHTapuVnBOwfFlffwTrN6J/story

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That didn't work for me. Try:

Quick and to the point(s) - Patriots - Boston.com

Great read.

Very interesting article at NFL.com and Boston Globe on Pats no-huddle

There is a very good article at nfl.com and the Boston Globe about the Patriots Lightning Speed no huddle offense and where it came from.

Check it out.

Patriots no-huddle relies on power of one - Sports - The Boston Globe

It's funny when the national media talks about the hubris of Bill because if they paid attention it's really all about winning. He's not afraid to ask guys like Chip Kelly or Jimmy Johnson how they do it. He asked Jerry West the then GM of the LA Lakers his thoughts on how to manage the salary cap. How many coaches would even think to ask that of a basketball guy?

Very good read.

Excellent article. Makes sense that the Pats started the super-fast no-huddle in 2011 under BOB after meeting with Oregon's Chip Kelly. Glad to see Josh has continued to evolve the offense around the concept.

Also shows how critical it is to have guys who "get it" or else it needs to be abandoned. With Gronk in and out of the lineup in SB46, the Pats used it sparingly when using it more likely would have been to their advantage. This year, with another year under everyone's belts using the system, seems like the Pats have more personnel flexibility to run the scheme. No Aaron Hernandez? No problem.

Regards,
Chris

Excellent article indeed.

Re: the no huddle. I wonder if we'll see players start faking injuries in order to stop the quick flow of the game and to get substitutions in?

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Excellent article indeed.

Re: the no huddle. I wonder if we'll see players start faking injuries in order to stop the quick flow of the game and to get substitutions in?

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i bet you seattle does it this weekend.

Seems Goodell was ahead of the curve on this. Sent out a memo on 9.28. The league is reluctant to institute a rule that stipulates in game penalties for faking an injury because they do not want to create an atmosphere where players who are legitimately injured are reluctant to acknowledge it or are penalized. So instead they have warned all teams that players suspected of faking an injury to gain time will be subject to league discipline including including fines and subsequent suspension for repeat offenders as well as coaches and even club discipline including forfeiture of draft picks under the personal conduct policy.

NFL memo reminds teams against faking injuries to stop clock - NFL.com

A slight clarification: Oregon's Chip Kelly met with Bill O'Brien and Bill Belichick, but not with Josh McDaniels.

McDaniels talks no-huddle - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston