Arkansas DE Jake Bequette

Obviously, I ~ and all others ~ are but shadows, contrasted to the brilliant Light of Deroer's Wisdom and Insight, but JUST for the Record, I DID advocate FOR Jake Bequette:

Jake Bequette ~ 6.5/275 ~ 3rd-4th ~ 2nd-3rd

Starter!! Jake Bequette commands a very intriguing fusion of skills, Savvy, and a Scrapper mentality.

First off, he commands impressive Core Strength, and is a force both in the Attack in the Pass Game, and in Defense in the Run Game.

Second, his intangibles are 4.0, as he gets universally outstanding grades for his Work Ethic and Savvy.

Third, he is highly productive.

Now, all of the above combined, while admirable, often tragically deliver the Prospect in question to the scrap heap, or, in the case of a Scrapper like Bequette, to the bottom of the roster, if his Fluidity is lacking!!

And on Tape, his Fluidity is lacking.

Yet, at the Combine, he finished at the very top ~ tied with Vinny Curry ~ on the 3 Cone ~ which is a pretty damned good gauge of Raw Fluidity ~ with a 690.

And it doesn't hurt that he annihilated the Field on the Short Shuttle ~ a great gauge of Lateral Agility ~ with a stunning 407!!

Clearly, Bequette is a raw Prospect who needs a lot of coaching, but if I'm placing a bet ~ and every single Pick is a Gamble!! ~ then I'm placing it the guy with Power, Strength, Production, Savvy, Raw Athletic Talent, and outstanding Work Ethic!!

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Of course, that doesn't mean I'm RIGHT ~ nor does it mean that Mad Bill, or PatsDeroer is right.

Just wanted to get it on the record and refresh memories.

Off The Grid said:

HighTower commands tremendous Core Strength, remarkable Fluidity for such a big guy, and surprisingly decent Verticity ~ as long as you don't ask'm to cover Flankers!!

In a "43", he can play either End.

In a "425", ditto.

In a "245", he could actually play ether Flanker ~ Sam or Will.

And in a "34", he could also play either Flanker.

In other words, his versatility ~ his ability to project to an high level in multiple roles ~ is RIDICULOUS!! :rocker:

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Please Note: At NO point did I say "MidFielder" ~ that's "Middle LineBacker", to you Earthlings!!

His Lateral Agility SUCKS.

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I just can't wait for the first time he's standing over Sanchez..., looks down and says ” you've been sacked.... Hoser!!”

Off The Grid said:

HighTower commands tremendous Core Strength, remarkable Fluidity for such a big guy, and surprisingly decent Verticity ~ as long as you don't ask'm to cover Flankers!!

In a "43", he can play either End.

In a "425", ditto.

In a "245", he could actually play ether Flanker ~ Sam or Will.

And in a "34", he could also play either Flanker.

In other words, his versatility ~ his ability to project to an high level in multiple roles ~ is RIDICULOUS!! :rocker:

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I love Verticity. I am going to start making up my own words. I've had nine beers and approaching a surprising level of lubrocity.

patchick said:

Any NFL players you'd compare him to?

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I see a bit of Jared Allen in him, only Jared Allen goes through tackles - Bequette mixes it up and does a spin move to the inside.

What I love about this pick- it's not something we neccessarily want to think sbout, but if Jones busts, we'd still have this guy to be effective on the pass-rush.

Spergon Wynn said:

I like this pick. Classic Belichick pick. Seems like a good kid with a strong motor.

We should have some good competition at the OLB/DE hybrid spot.

It's priceless that after years of fans begging to someone to rush the passer, Bill goes out and spends three of his picks on guys that can do that in one draft.

So like the TE in 2010 and RB in 2011, 2012 is the year of Bill's OLB/DE.

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For years the cupboard was bare at OLB when it came time for the Patriots to draft. The college OLBs were runts and the few who fit were gone by pick 10.

But this year there were big, fast, OLBs galore, that fell into draft range. So BB splurged, and stocked up with three of them, even moving up slightly, to insure he got the picks of the litter.

Too bad there were not lots of star FS types in the draft, so he had had to look near and far, for a Jimmy Sanders type, but tougher, bigger, faster, more athletic, and more disciplined, and just as smart a guy. Someone to give vet import Gregory, and convert-project Edelman, some competition at Facing FS.

Arrington just inherited some good competition too, at slot corner back, in the form of the Fonz, who mihgt have gone elsewhere as a near First Rounder, if he hadn't slugged a cop, in a bar fight.

Havent read through the whole thread, but jake was a good leader on defense for us...and he is a really smart player. He was going to law school if the NFL didnt come calling lol. He's a hard worker and will give great effort on every play

Joey007 said:

What I love about this pick- it's not something we neccessarily want to think sbout, but if Jones busts, we'd still have this guy to be effective on the pass-rush.

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How 'bout we take the positive POV: if they both work out, they could be the GRONKnandez of the defense.

ctpatsfan77 said:

How 'bout we take the positive POV: if they both work out, they could be the GRONKnandez of the defense.

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Praying for it. I think we see less PT for Big DL this year and more PT for the DE/OLB pass rusher. That would at least open up the opportunity for them to both develop.

ay-yo said:

Praying for it. I think we see less PT for Big DL this year and more PT for the DE/OLB pass rusher. That would at least open up the opportunity for them to both develop.

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The positive POV I want to take from this draft is that BB is now taking the appropriate steps necessary to help the secondary and get the defense off the field on third down.

I am very pleased with the selction of Jones, Hightower and Bequette, but wonder what it means for SSSSSLLOWWWWpoke Cunningham and try really hard but accomplish relatively little Ninkovich.

Ochmed Jones said:

The positive POV I want to take from this draft is that BB is now taking the appropriate steps necessary to help the secondary and get the defense off the field on third down.

I am very pleased with the selction of Jones, Hightower and Bequette, but wonder what it means for SSSSSLLOWWWWpoke Cunningham and try really hard but accomplish relatively little Ninkovich.

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cunningham is prob gone....ninko is fine, though.....helps with scheme diversity.

this is more likely the end for carter, though

IllegalContact said:

cunningham is prob gone....ninko is fine, though.....helps with scheme diversity.

this is more likely the end for carter, though

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Unfortunately, it occurred to me last season that the team could improve over Ninkovich. I like his effort and he has outperformed expectations, but the team could get more production from that position... if only they could find the right guy.

Ochmed Jones said:

The positive POV I want to take from this draft is that BB is now taking the appropriate steps necessary to help the secondary and get the defense off the field on third down.

I am very pleased with the selction of Jones, Hightower and Bequette, but wonder what it means for SSSSSLLOWWWWpoke Cunningham and try really hard but accomplish relatively little Ninkovich.

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Been trying to figure what how we can utilize the new personnel. I think we'll play a hybrid 3-4 and 4-2-5. Hear me out. I don't think Cunningham even makes the team. Ninko's role will be reduced. But, still valuable. I have 15 guys in my front 7 and 10 defensive backs. I'm guessing we will sign Andre Carter and James Ihedigbo.

6 Fatties - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene, G. Warren and M. Pryor
6 OLB/DE's - Ninkovich, A. Carter, C. Jones, D. Hightower, J. Bequette and T. Scott
3 ILB's - Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher - Hightower can play here. That's why only 3
6 CB's - McCourty, Dowling, Arrington, W. Allen, S. Moore and A. Dennard
4 S's - P. Chung, Gregory, T. Wilson and Ihedigbo

1st Down
RDE(Very wide.Elephant type role)
Andre Carter backed up by Chandler Jones
DT Vince Wilfork
DT Brandon Deaderick
LDE/OLB Ninkovich...against heavy run teams you can slide Deaderick out and play K.Love at DT.
Sam - Donta Hightower - Stacked right behind Ninko will make it harder to run right at that side and can blitz too.
SILB - Brandon Spikes
WILB - Jerod Mayo - Lined up inside of RDE.

Secondary..My guess
McCourty - Gregory/Wilson - Chung - Dowling

2ND Down
Arrington comes in to play the nickel to replace Ninko. Hightower slides into the LDE/OLB role. Spikes and Mayo are the two lb's.

3RD Down
Spikes comes out. Hightower takes his spot. We have some pass rush options I hope. Chandler Jones can spell Andre Carter. Fanene can spell Deaderick/Wilfork to keep them fresh. Maybe, M.Pryor too. Hopefully, someone emerges to take that LDE spot who can get after the passer a little. Jake Bequette. maybe, someone might emerge like Cunningham, M. Carter or most likely T. Scott. Could play Ander Carter and Chandler Jones on 3rd down if nobody else emerges.

LDE Bequette or T. Scott
DT Fanene
DT Wilfork/Deaderick
RDE A. Carter/C.Jones

LB - J. Mayo
LB - D. Hightower - Gonna be deadly in zone blitzes.

LCB - McCourty
FS - Gregory/Wilson
SS - Chung
Nickel - Arrington
RCB - Dowling

I see it a little differently.....I think the pats are going back to straight up 3-4

the fatties will neutralize the OL with and once again, the LB's will mix up zone and man along with QB pressure. Jones will be more situational at first, given his coverage skills are unkown. Bequette is further along in that regard. I see hightower replicating what we had in mike vrabel before he got old......the LB unit just got much bigger while also becoming more athletic.

patsfaninpa said:

Been trying to figure what how we can utilize the new personnel. I think we'll play a hybrid 3-4 and 4-2-5. Hear me out. I don't think Cunningham even makes the team. Ninko's role will be reduced. But, still valuable. I have 15 guys in my front 7 and 10 defensive backs. I'm guessing we will sign Andre Carter and James Ihedigbo.

6 Fatties - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene, G. Warren and M. Pryor
6 OLB/DE's - Ninkovich, A. Carter, C. Jones, D. Hightower, J. Bequette and T. Scott
3 ILB's - Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher - Hightower can play here. That's why only 3
6 CB's - McCourty, Dowling, Arrington, W. Allen, S. Moore and A. Dennard
4 S's - P. Chung, Gregory, T. Wilson and Ihedigbo

1st Down
RDE(Very wide.Elephant type role)
Andre Carter backed up by Chandler Jones
DT Vince Wilfork
DT Brandon Deaderick
LDE/OLB Ninkovich...against heavy run teams you can slide Deaderick out and play K.Love at DT.
Sam - Donta Hightower - Stacked right behind Ninko will make it harder to run right at that side and can blitz too.
SILB - Brandon Spikes
WILB - Jerod Mayo - Lined up inside of RDE.

Secondary..My guess
McCourty - Gregory/Wilson - Chung - Dowling

2ND Down
Arrington comes in to play the nickel to replace Ninko. Hightower slides into the LDE/OLB role. Spikes and Mayo are the two lb's.

3RD Down
Spikes comes out. Hightower takes his spot. We have some pass rush options I hope. Chandler Jones can spell Andre Carter. Fanene can spell Deaderick/Wilfork to keep them fresh. Maybe, M.Pryor too. Hopefully, someone emerges to take that LDE spot who can get after the passer a little. Jake Bequette. maybe, someone might emerge like Cunningham, M. Carter or most likely T. Scott. Could play Ander Carter and Chandler Jones on 3rd down if nobody else emerges.

LDE Bequette or T. Scott
DT Fanene
DT Wilfork/Deaderick
RDE A. Carter/C.Jones

LB - J. Mayo
LB - D. Hightower - Gonna be deadly in zone blitzes.

LCB - McCourty
FS - Gregory/Wilson
SS - Chung
Nickel - Arrington
RCB - Dowling

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IllegalContact said:

I see it a little differently.....I think the pats are going back to straight up 3-4

the fatties will neutralize the OL with and once again, the LB's will mix up zone and man along with QB pressure. Jones will be more situational at first, given his coverage skills are unkown. Bequette is further along in that regard. I see hightower replicating what we had in mike vrabel before he got old......the LB unit just got much bigger while also becoming more athletic.

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I think the Pats could play it either way. I see Bequette as more of a DE and his role is more static in my opinion, but I think Jones and Hightower can play either. The versatility of those two is a big reason the Pats traded up for them.

What I'm going to enjoy the most I believe is the first time we see a 43 front with Mayo, Spikes, and Hightower as the LBs. I'm very excited about that.

IllegalContact said:

cunningham is prob gone....ninko is fine, though.....helps with scheme diversity.

this is more likely the end for carter, though

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I still think Jermaine has some stuff left. He's really gotten off on the wrong foot, but I don't look at him at all like I did other guys, namely Crable.

This season will go a long way in seeing what he's made of. With Carter likely taking some time to come back, if at all, and Anderson leaving, we need bodies for the rotation at DE.

ZoisKing said:

I still think Jermaine has some stuff left. He's really gotten off on the wrong foot, but I don't look at him at all like I did other guys, namely Crable.

This season will go a long way in seeing what he's made of. With Carter likely taking some time to come back, if at all, and Anderson leaving, we need bodies for the rotation at DE.

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Ive never gotten the Cunningham hate. He show a lot in his rookie year and was hurt last year. Same goes for Crable, he looked really good the year he was taken in PS games, posters were raving about him. His problem wasn't talent, he could Never stay healthy

patsfaninpa said:

Been trying to figure what how we can utilize the new personnel. I think we'll play a hybrid 3-4 and 4-2-5. Hear me out. I don't think Cunningham even makes the team. Ninko's role will be reduced. But, still valuable. I have 15 guys in my front 7 and 10 defensive backs. I'm guessing we will sign Andre Carter and James Ihedigbo.

6 Fatties - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene, G. Warren and M. Pryor
6 OLB/DE's - Ninkovich, A. Carter, C. Jones, D. Hightower, J. Bequette and T. Scott
3 ILB's - Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher - Hightower can play here. That's why only 3
6 CB's - McCourty, Dowling, Arrington, W. Allen, S. Moore and A. Dennard
4 S's - P. Chung, Gregory, T. Wilson and Ihedigbo

1st Down
RDE(Very wide.Elephant type role)
Andre Carter backed up by Chandler Jones
DT Vince Wilfork
DT Brandon Deaderick
LDE/OLB Ninkovich...against heavy run teams you can slide Deaderick out and play K.Love at DT.
Sam - Donta Hightower - Stacked right behind Ninko will make it harder to run right at that side and can blitz too.
SILB - Brandon Spikes
WILB - Jerod Mayo - Lined up inside of RDE.

Secondary..My guess
McCourty - Gregory/Wilson - Chung - Dowling

2ND Down
Arrington comes in to play the nickel to replace Ninko. Hightower slides into the LDE/OLB role. Spikes and Mayo are the two lb's.

3RD Down
Spikes comes out. Hightower takes his spot. We have some pass rush options I hope. Chandler Jones can spell Andre Carter. Fanene can spell Deaderick/Wilfork to keep them fresh. Maybe, M.Pryor too. Hopefully, someone emerges to take that LDE spot who can get after the passer a little. Jake Bequette. maybe, someone might emerge like Cunningham, M. Carter or most likely T. Scott. Could play Ander Carter and Chandler Jones on 3rd down if nobody else emerges.

LDE Bequette or T. Scott
DT Fanene
DT Wilfork/Deaderick
RDE A. Carter/C.Jones

LB - J. Mayo
LB - D. Hightower - Gonna be deadly in zone blitzes.

LCB - McCourty
FS - Gregory/Wilson
SS - Chung
Nickel - Arrington
RCB - Dowling

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This is along the lines of what I was saying prior to the draft, the days of a pure 4-3 or pure 3-4 could be gone.

Instead we play a defense that can morph based on the opponent and the down and distance.

ON your first down,you would have the Pats playing a wide 9 version defense with the end flanked out wide. I have not seen BB ever do that, but with a guy like Hightower filling from the OLB spot, I could see BB start to incorporate this lineup more

So against Houston and the Jets, which have good running teams, we can afford to play a strong run stopping defense and sacrifice a little coverage on early downs.

But on third down, we bring in a Jones and Bequette and take on an OLB and a DE and let the rookies get after the QB.

When we go against teams like Green Bay and New Orleans in next year's super bowl, then we can go 3-2-6 or 4-2-5 because we have the personnel to make that happen now.

Ochmed Jones said:

This is along the lines of what I was saying prior to the draft, the days of a pure 4-3 or pure 3-4 could be gone. Instead we play a defense that can morph based on the opponent and the down and distance.

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Absolutely. And ideally, with the same personnel. That will make it harder for offenses to hurry up to prevent defensive substitutions, and to read the defensive personnel to adjust their scheme.